Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Airstrip One]

It's a damn shame that all you haterz can't appreciate the beautiful mind of the mathematical and legal genius, Russell Greer.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

"plaintiff sincerely believes his bullshitting around cost the defendant less than $500"
luckily theres no need for the judge to rely on "sincere belief" since hardin calculated and published the total sum for you and its 10 times that, buddy boy! whose argument is going to be more compelling?
really funny to see him flailing around like this for just a grand when theres 2 more sanctions on the way, each of them probably to the tune of a few thousand as well.

How much in fees are we looking at? Last time some firm carried his tard ass for free. This time he's alone. I think it might cost more than paying Josh the $700.

rusty will do anything and everything to avoid paying joshua conner moon a single dollar. in his mind that is the ultimate concession of defeat and he will sooner an hero than do it
also i have a pet theory that he believes that him giving money to the court (as ordered) will somehow make the judge favor him more, because he gave him a tip just like he would his favorite prostitute. before this case is over im sure we will see rusty inviting a 10th circuit judge to olive garden

 

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also i have a pet theory that he believes that him giving money to the court (as ordered) will somehow make the judge favor him more, because he gave him a tip just like he would his favorite prostitute. before this case is over im sure we will see rusty inviting a 10th circuit judge to olive garden

"Plaintiff Russell Greer comes now to respectfully ask the Court for a Venmo address where he could send a small tip to show his appreciation for the Honorable Judges"

 

[Swole McPole]

Seems to me Hardship Hardin is done fucking around. He seems to be absolutely out for Russhole's blood, and ruthlessly so.

I was somewhat sceptical of this approach as it seems like the judge is just as pissed at Hardin's responses to Greer's tomfoolery as he is at Greer's tomfoolery -- perhaps even moreso? But I suppose you have to get all of your complaints down for the record should you ever need to appeal, so I guess his hands are tied.

I'd be very surprised if this judge reviews Greer's in forma pauperis status though. Largely because the judge is an utterly useless cunt.

 

[Bunkerhousing]

I was somewhat sceptical of this approach as it seems like the judge is just as pissed at Hardin's responses to Greer's tomfoolery as he is at Greer's tomfoolery -- perhaps even moreso? But I suppose you have to get all of your complaints down for the record should you ever need to appeal, so I guess his hands are tied.

I'd be very surprised if this judge reviews Greer's in forma pauperis status though. Largely because the judge is an utterly useless cunt.

Currently it seems Greer is fucking the judge more than he fucks his prostitutes.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I feel like the IFP motion was already in Hardin't pocket 90% written. He was just waiting for Russtard to do something stupid like his bond motion to trigger it.

The man has a plan.

Last year he challenged Acerthorn's IFP status in that case and it (sorta) worked - the magistrate has recommended no IFP, but it remains to be seen if that recommendation will be carried out - so I'm not surprised he has anti-IFP arguments in his back pocket for dealing with pro se retards moving forward.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

I was gonna make a joke about trying a seance or something, but the m'fer had an actual citation. Brave Mr. Hardin, bravo.

The footnotes in Hardin's filings are sometimes the best part to read. That said, I'm not surprised someone somewhere in the past wanted to submit testimony via Ouija Board.

You better start scrubbing toilets, Russell. Hardin's gonna want those sanctions ASAP.

Depending on which RG story we believe, he's either too broke to even afford a $7 toilet brush or he can afford to buy 11 of them to submit as bond collateral while the case continues to drag on. Meanwhile, Dear Leader is stuck having to deal with this case that should have been flushed down the crapper a long time ago.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

he's either too broke to even afford a $7 toilet brush or he can afford to buy 11 of them to submit as bond collateral while the case continues to drag on.

He just admitted he could pay, and his favorite brothel was recently demolished. His wallet's probably feeling a bit heavy at the moment, so he should be grateful Hardin's helping him lighten the load.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

Hardins filings were great as always but I'm afraid the Magistrate judges response to all this is gonna be along the lines of "Well we really gotta get to trial at some point. Why don't we call all this lying to the court, trying to deprive defense of council, defying court orders, and incompetence another one of Greers little oopsy daisies and give him till August to make things right. Now go get you a hooker you little scamp. As for you Mr Hardin, you're on thin ice."

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Guys. He admitted to having cash on hand. Just like he admitted to having eager (if dead) witnesses.

All we can hope for is the court believes him, denies the stay, and asks he pay.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Interesting how what's fitting and symbolic always lines up with broke ass Russ not having to pay money.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The whole “fitting” thing reeks so hard of the principal’s office after another retard spergout.

He’s really no idea what court is and that’s a huge part why he keeps failing in exactly the same ways.

 

[Napoleon III]

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Greer is so fucking retarded and lazy. He just automatically assumes everything will work out fine without any effort at all. I enjoyed this portion in part because it reads like a KF post. I know Hardin doesn't read the threads so it is funny to me when he comes to the same conclusions.

Seems to me Hardship Hardin is done fucking around. He seems to be absolutely out for Russhole's blood, and ruthlessly so.

On the other hand, Hardin specifically requesting that this affidavit be submitted under seal should (in theory) shut down any argument Russhole could make about his financial info falling into the wrong hands as a result of this request.

I wish that the affidavit was public as a deterrent to Russ. Russ brought this lawsuit and as such should be open to public scrutiny. If he didn't wish to be made fun of all he would have to do is not be retarded in a publicly visible manner. For him that means not filing and engaging in retarded lawsuits.

Then again he is a Lolcow so telling him this 10,000 times probably wouldn't work and he'll never learn his lesson. Greer will probably perpetually think that he is just one lawsuit of a famous and attractive female celebrity away from victory.

The IFP motion is going to create some amazing milk from Russ. I can't wait for the tears and trauma lumps.

Even if we don't get the details of precisely how much Greer spends on whores it'll still be funny.

I'd be very surprised if this judge reviews Greer's in forma pauperis status though. Largely because the judge is an utterly useless cunt.

It is very Hardin where whatever outcome happens benefits Hardin's side. If this motion is granted then it is inherently good, if it is denied then it is a very public instance of the lower court tard shielding Russ which is precisely the sort of thing you want if you were going to engage in an appeal.

Greer is trapped between a rock and a Hard(in) place. There is nothing Greer can do.

 

[Oliver Onions]

However, if a lawsuit is patently horseshit, or vexatious, I am sick and tired of the American Rule punishing the winning side for defending themselves.

The problem is a lot of cases are rarely so black and white as to be obvious nonsense, especially to a judge who might have dozens of cases pass his desk every day. Any changes you could make to the American Rule to punish people like Russhole or Acerthorn would inevitably end up harming innocent people who have a legitimate case but are too ignorant to know what they're doing.

Without derailing too much it's the same reason I can't support MRA positions like false rape claims carrying the same sentence a rape conviction would, because distinguishing between a false accusation and an unproveable accusation is often impossible.

In Russ's specific case, however, it's really, really hard to not see the judge/courts as deliberately coddling him because of what they believe the Kiwi Farms to be. I find that particularly frustrating.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The update has been made to paynull.lol, I hope everyone enjoys it.

He has yet to formerly appeal to the 10th on this issue, merely announcing that he will when the case is over (if the bond is granted).

Of course it doesn't mean that Russhole would actually file an affidavit if ordered to do so. It's not like either the Magistrate nor the Judge are particularly keen on handing out any meaningful sanctions agaist Russ. Though if he does file an affidavit, the only financial info he'll disclose is that he is a poor homeless pro se litigant fighting against the HARDSHIP that is Kiwi Farms, a website.

The only way we'd know for sure is if (or more likely when) Russhole fucks up by forgetting to file said affidavit under seal.

You have to fill out an actual court form, though. Failure to do so leads to failure of IFP being granted. I assume this is true for updates on his financial status (where ordered by the court)

Interestingly, Utah is one of the districts where you are allowed to set away some money for recreation and still be considered poor.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

The Magistrate Judge has steadily been realising Russhole is just dragging his feet because he has no case and brought the suit purely to financially harm the Defendants.

The District Judge is the one throwing out the rulebook to tard shield.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

I wish that the affidavit was public as a deterrent to Russ.

There is nothing Greer can do.

Uh, redirect y'onnah - there is. He can lie and plight on the affidavit, creating more filings for both sides and requiring rulings from the court, thus dragging the case well into it's 6th year.

I don't believe this post constitutes helpful advice to Greer as it describes his regular proceedings per previous actions. He is the dog that caught the car.

 

[AnOminous]

The problem is a lot of cases are rarely so black and white as to be obvious nonsense, especially to a judge who might have dozens of cases pass his desk every day. Any changes you could make to the American Rule to punish people like Russhole or Acerthorn would inevitably end up harming innocent people who have a legitimate case but are too ignorant to know what they're doing.

A major problem with rules used to punish litigation misconduct (like SLAPP statutes or even Rule 11) is you inevitably end up with the situation that the one with the best lawyer wins, and then you end up with the dude in a trailer park owing $5 million to the gas company that ruined his property by fracking.

It's not like either the Magistrate nor the Judge are particularly keen on handing out any meaningful sanctions agaist Russ.

As critical as I am of that $1,000 sanction, it's more the method that bothers me than the amount. Why the fuck would the judge take over the case at that juncture to make such a dumb, zero-effort ruling?

That said, $1,000 might be nuisance value to you or I, but even with Russ not being as impoverished as he claims, it's definitely meaningful to him.

It's a shot across the bow (which is less than he deserves) and obviously intended to see if it corrects his behavior. It looks like the drooling, slurping goblin intends to run it up some more, though. He's welcome to do that.

 

[Two by Four]

He even cited a case where a Ouija board was inadmissible as testimony by the dead

I want to know how long Hardin has been waiting for an excuse to use those two citations, or if he found them on the fly; either way the man is a gift. Also idk if I'm following the evidence manual citation correctly, but would it pointing to 804.01 indicate that Ouija board testimony isn't entitled to hearsay exemption even though the witness is dead (804 pertains to hearsay exceptions for unavailable witnesses), thus implying that Ouija is inadmissible due to it being hearsay rather than because it's a load of bullshit?

Sidenote; is it common a thing for lawyers to sneak in potentially cheeky/funny citations when they can? Scientists do it (physicists will occasionally cite a 1975 paper that has a cat as a co-author, they'll also list the same cat as a contributor or special thanks), but the stakes there obviously aren't quite so intense as in law.

 

[talk talk talk]

Regarding Baiul v. William Morris Agency:

Unfortunately, the case didn't directly involve Ouija board testimony. The judge was just making fun of the plaintiff (skater Oksana Baiul) in the case.

Baiul sued a shitload of people under RICO alleging they exploited her in her professional skating career in New York state court. One of the shitload of people had been dead for nine years. The surviving defendants removed the case to federal court. Baiul objected because to remove a case all the defendants have to consent to removal.

The court held the dead guy was not a party so he did not have to consent and made fun of Baiul:

First, plaintiff argues that the removal was improper because defendant Alan Wallin has not provided his consent, after having been properly served .... The Court disagrees. It is undisputed that Wallin passed away in March 2004, more than nine years before plaintiff filed this action. ... The Court finds that plaintiffs purported service on Wallin was not proper, and thus his failure to consent to removal does not serve as a basis to defeat removal. Evidence of a deceased's wishes via Ouija board is not admissible in federal court.​