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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I'm not sure if the public finances do stretch to looking after our own

They do. People have run the numbers. If not for admitted deliberate waste everything would be fine.

That’s the thing about systems, they work fine until you let retards in charge.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Why is any pensioner, that has had 50 years to plan for retirment, in a position where they can't afford to turn their heating on ?

That you can't see how those things link speaks volumes of your exposure to the real world beyond a screen and a tall glass office block.

I'm autistically retarded because I disagree with you ?

You're autistically retarded because (below)

I'll tell you what, come back when you have a finance degree, 20 years plus in the industry, specifically in and around pensions and fund management, numerous financial qualifications ( IAQ, IMC, CFA ) worked through 2008 and saw what happened, have been to the investment seminars and understand the complete ignorance of laymen like you around the subject.

This is meant to mean something? If we were discussing engineering or medical practice then I would have great respect, like I do for the tool makers of old. Your career that you've spent 20 years on is pointless. Finance is a made up subject of juggling numbers to make it fit. Capex, budgets, finances, anyone with a good imagination and sharp tongue can make the numbers dance like Mickey's brooms in Fantasia.
I'm a working-class mong and have saved/generate revenue to the tune of millions because shuffling numbers on a spreadsheet is easy.

You couldn't spell a thing out to me about this subject, I don't know which is greater, your arrogance in thinking you're an expert or your ignorance of just how little you comprehend of a complex financial subject. I guess it's just Dunning-Kruger in effect.

I am not an expert and have never said I was. My retirement plan is to not rely on a retirement plan, anyone who does, even after the events of the past five years, leaves themselves open to rug pulling. An expert such as yourself, knowing all that you know, who still believes in the system means you're so high on yours and your peers' farts that you're catatonic.
Sorry, not sorry that your big gotcha and dick swinging about credentials means nothing to me. To quote Twain "That don't impress me much".

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

The one thing Reeves snuck in is that all ISAs are taxed after £4k savings which is retarded

Has she actually confirmed that? Can't find it yet so it still seems to be what she is speculated to be planning. I also thought she wanted to be forcing people into stocks and shares ISAs rather than cash ones.

For Americans the current tax-free ISA caps at 20k a year. So she'd be pruning those down to 20% of their yearly potential. Not everyone can routinely put that amount in but a lot of those looking to the future prudently tend to as well as putting money into a pension also put funds into tax-free saving options where they can. These are some of the simplest available hence why the less bright like me vaguely understand them.

As ever Labour's plan to to try to screw the people they think do not vote for them in the simplest way possible. Their logic is the people they actually rely on are the very rich (who look at ISAs, sneer and tell their accountants to make them some real money with their spare cash) and those who cannot save more than 4k a year and believe that will never change. Labour hope they will support them to spite everyone doing better than them but relying on that support while they are cutting benefits is a dangerous gamble.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Why is any pensioner, that has had 50 years to plan for retirment, in a position where they can't afford to turn their heating on ?

For starters, they didn't expect the state to more than double their energy bills with a bunch of "green" levies, price floors, and mandated non-production payments for renewables.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Monday is going to be interesting though because we can start to determine the way the wind is blowing. British politics is fantastic when there are cabinet spats. Reform is in a really funny place too where Locals can start carving seats even without Lowe sadly.

With the ISA's she keeps saying it but with this bint, it's all but confirmed. I am going to consult my bank about it next week to see if I can pull out, I will keep you posted if I can.

Wrecking ISAs is the most retarded thing she has done yet because it makes her an enemy to the banks. They use ISAs as a lot of quick cash and because it gains interest, the banks essentially use it as a loan to the account holder. She is encouraging bank runs which is disastrous for any economy but for ours because we have so few banks it hits harder because with the runs in the States last year it could be consolidated but not here due to the lack of different companies.

 

[starborn427614]

Can't work because of a crippling disability?
Can't afford to turn the heating on because benefits are gone?
Can't afford food because welfare has been ended?
One simple solution; Kill yourself, courtesy of the British government.

How many months away from this are we?

We're supposed to be a welfare state, but it's like the Tories never left.

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

I’m sure the British public are going to love when their home towns are full of prostitutes bothering people. (It’ll just be illegal for anyone to pay for sex)

I hate how lefty politicians make these retarded policies but no right wing politician has the backbone to use this to their advantage.
Why not point out the inconsistencies of holding two insane beliefs at the same time:

1] We are a tolerant progressive society.
2] Multiculturalism is our strength.


All someone would need to do is make a proposed amendment to the bill - "Yeah okay, we're going to legalise street accessible prostitution...but only in certain districts."


Like how all gay rights parades should pass by at least 1 Mosque.

What's good for the goose etc.

 

[Smyrna]

Whilst their polling has held up, the internal bleeding at Reform continues. This evening, the 5 officers for a branch covering 2 constituencies (Chester North & Neston, and Ellesmere Port & Bromborough) resigned en masse. The (now former) branch chairman posted the letter of resignation on their X account;

https://nitter.net/chrislittlewoo8/status/1900602989699600761

You may argue that these are just a handful of people covering a tiny part of the country, who can be easily replaced without any lasting damage. There is, however, one wrinkle - both of those constituencies are bordered to their east by the constituency of Runcorn & Helsby. Reform are going to need a lot of warm bodies to knock on doors in Runcorn over the next few weeks, and many of those bodies will need to be sourced from neighbouring constituencies - you aren't going to get many volunteers traversing the entire country from Clacton, Thurrock or other Reform-y parts of East Anglia. The organisation of these volunteers will now clearly be hampered.

There was, also today, a poll published by Lord Ashcroft for that constituency showing that Reform would currently win the by-election. But the margin is small, and it is undoubtedly the ability of parties to get their voters out that will make the difference. Reform clearly underperformed last July because they could not target any more than 4 constituencies (the 4 they won excluding South Basildon & East Thurrock, which was something of a fluke). Now that there has been a poll showing them ahead in Runcorn, the narrative and expectation will be for them to win. If they don't, the momentum is gone.

 

[starborn427614]

1] We are a tolerant progressive society.
2] Multiculturalism is our strength.

Not saying I agree with all of this, but I don't think either point contradicts the other. Logically, a tolerant society would already be multicultural by default.

 

[GameratePTSD]

Checking in on the BASED trad muslims who will save our perverted Western societies from degeneracy.

 

[BrownPawsTypedThis]

Not saying I agree with all of this, but I don't think either point contradicts the other. Logically, a tolerant society would already be multicultural by default.

This assumes multiculturalism is good.

 

[DeeDee Megadoodoo]

Not saying I agree with all of this, but I don't think either point contradicts the other. Logically, a tolerant society would already be multicultural by default.

Not necessarily. The 1970's US was tolerant but not "multicultural". There was one cultural standard... but it tolerated the existence of degenerates.

 

[starborn427614]

Not necessarily. The 1970's US was tolerant but not "multicultural". There was one cultural standard... but it tolerated the existence of degenerates.

True, the notion of tolerance has changed over the years. Not to mention that what seemed progressive back then would seem conservative by today's standards.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Checking in on the BASED trad muslims who will save our perverted Western societies from degeneracy.
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This is based and trad for Muslims.

 

[isalaide]

Starmer will not be removed. The backbenchers and the criers on the front bench will continue to cry, because that is how the Labour party operates.
But none of them are bringing down their own government. Pissing out of the tent is better than pissing in by a long fucking chalk in our political system. The Labour party knows how to do one thing correctly; they know how to shore up their personal position. Cooper and Miliband would do better personally off the lead than on it, so the gamble will pay off for them.
Sacking 30,000 "useless middle managers" out the NHS who aren't "our nurses and doctors" is popular with the public. The public in this country do not understand household finance, let alone public service economics, but most of the population of the UK are snide little cunts who are happy as long as someone else is suffering too.
This is also why further cuts to disability benefits and Hammering The Neets are very popular.
The actual effect on the individual benefit claimant isn't important, because those people's votes don't matter. What matters is the voters on 29 grand a year who are sort-of Reform and voted Leave, and they want the bogeyman "benefits cheat scammer never worked bastard" hammered. Those people do vote, they substantially decided the last two general elections, and they will absolutely be given what they say they want.
The public services, welfare state, cradle to grave party is over. The music stopped a while ago; the great Bri'ish public are only just looking for a seat and realising the chairs have been cleared away. The "we are poorer than Slovenia" is news now. In ten, fifteen years' time it will simply be how things are. This is the economic realignment we refinanced our collective future to avoid in 2008, and pretended wouldn't likely happen after 2016. It's here. We are all going to get a big bite of the shit sandwich.
This is how we live now, here.

 

[Snekposter]

We have enough money to let native pensioners heat their homes. We are spending billions on putting migrants up in hotels and giving them free private health and dental. Wages in this country are so low and taxes so high that people aren’t able to save much. We can look after our own if we stop spunking the tax money up the wall on useless stuff and actively damaging stuff.
How much public money went to the private purse during covid, for nothing? A billion? hundred billion? More? Our grandkids will still be paying it off.
Imagine if we had people who were intelligent, not corrupt and who worked diligently for the good of the country in charge.

If you can find those sorts of people, would you mind letting us across the Pond borrow them for a short time? Pretty please?

That interview where he talks about not dreaming or having a favorite book backs that up.
‘You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself’: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet

Is this man even a person, or a blob of person-shaped meat in a suit?

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

Not saying I agree with all of this, but I don't think either point contradicts the other. Logically, a tolerant society would already be multicultural by default.

No, because different cultures do not treat people equally like a liberal or progressive society does.
They are most likely to be in direct opposition to eachother.

Take homosexuality for example, a tolerant society goes :
"Yes, you are considered equal to heterosexuals under the law"

Whereas many cultures think homosexuality is an abomination that should be punishable by death.
How do you respect the culture of "all homos should die" while upholding "homos are equal and not to be excluded from society"?

Many such cases.
Women should be free to choose who they marry - progressive.

If a woman marries someone who is not who our family wishes her to marry, she has brought dishonour to the family and should be killed - multicultural

Even things like Ramadan, there have been many posts on social media of Muslims complaining about people eating near them during Ramadan.

 

[the rat]

you would have to be enormously stupid to do it

hahahahahahahaha yeah man who would be that stupid.

 

[FedPostalService]

Can't work because of a crippling disability?
Can't afford to turn the heating on because benefits are gone?
Can't afford food because welfare has been ended?
One simple solution; Kill yourself, courtesy of the British government.

How many months away from this are we?

Weirdly these are policies I can get behind.

We're supposed to be a welfare state, but it's like the Tories never left.

The Tories were in power for 14 years and didn’t do anything like this, you fucking retard.

Labour are getting away with doing this because the media is chanting “four legs good, two legs bad.”

You can’t blame the Tories for this as they would never have been able to get away with it.

Labour are doing this. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Tory Derangement Syndrome is a disease.

 

[Otterly]

If you can find those sorts of people, would you mind letting us across the Pond borrow them for a short time? Pretty please?

Ironically, the people who would use power well are the type who dont particularly want it and don’t seek it.

Is this man even a person, or a blob of person-shaped meat in a suit?

A nebulous chittering of demonic entities in a human shaped meat suit and expensive glasses.