Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

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If anyone's bored, here's the tweet announcing the passing of Senate Bill 20 in Texas which bans all Ai-Generated child porn, including animation and cartoons. All the replies are just coping and seething about their precious little girl porn now qualifies as criminal on US soil!
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The salt is FLOWING
>loliplapper
Nigga's proudly self admitting he's a childfucker
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I hate with an absolute passion though that I'm somewhat agreeing with them on the 1A concerns. Fuck this gay timeline.

At least this prevents the defense of some pedo img2img'ing a real photo and going "Uhm, akshually its a cartoon now so it's totally fine :geek:"

Sorry to say this, but you're extremely dumb if you believe that a bill targeting people who are in possession of AI-generated CSAM is somehow going to lead to total government censorship of everything you know and love. For the love of Christ, read the bill before you start sperging out about how the government is overreaching. It is very clearly stated in the very first page of the bill that its about AI-generated CSAM.
It (potentially but hopefully doesn't) opens the door for exempting someone from 1A (or any constitutional) rights if AI is involved. I doubt it'll lead to complete censorship, but picking and choosing exemptions to the constitution never ends well. I want to remain positive on this one, but this is the government we're talking about here.
 
nigger, liking anime and thinking lolicon is gross/for pedos are not mutally exclusive.
Disagree, you can't reasonably consider yourself an anime fan and not be a pedophile. Literally every person with an anime profile picture on social media is a pedophile. Or a child, obviously a child can't be a pedophile and they obviously love cartoons with flashing colors.
As a certified libertarian retard, I genuinely care significantly more about legalizing heroin than the loli shit. I don't think obscenity should be illegal (CSAM unequivocally should because it creates a black market for production in poor countries) but this is at the bottom of my list of things I care about. Yeah yeah I know, libertarian retard, I've got a hole in my head or something. The arguments for decriminalizing all drugs are salient and, even if you disagree, at least are founded on the belief that decriminalizing/legalizing heroin would reduce a lot of suffering in the world. I've never heard a lolicon ever argue that loli reduces harm in the world in some way, outside of the certifiably incorrect belief that it is an "outlet for urges" (when we know that frequent porn usage leads to addiction, a stark contrast to outlets for violence like exercise which DO reduce aggressive behaviours), and they only ever argue that it is a principles thing, or a "slippery-slope". Like nigger have you EVER in your life been penalized for standing up for someone else's speech when it would only harm you? No? Then shut the fuck up. Can't fucking stand lolicons. I've had real consequences for standing up for free speech in various circumstances, and it's only ever caused me harm, and I won't stop, but I'm so fucking sick of this issue that I genuinely care about being leveraged opportunistically by Discord-coomers and conservitards.
All hard drugs are legal in parts of Canada. They even have "safe supply" programs. Do you know what happened?
Overdoses didn't drop literally at all, MASSIVE amounts of the "safe supply" are being diverted (eg. immediately sold to drug seekers, mostly new ones since they're weaker than anything else you can buy on the street and also sent in massive quantities overseas starting new epidemics). It created a new black market (certain pharmacists and managers or low income housing are corroborating to have people go get the drugs from their pharmacy/prescribe them to people because the pharmacists get a kickback for every prescription filled, person watched taking drugs). The drug dealers sit outside the dirty pharmacies and immediately buy the pills, then turn around and give that person fentanyl, which they're legally allowed to have and go use in the middle of the mall. Societal safety has also dropped as now you can even politely ask the violent, mentally ill junkie to please not smoke meth directly in front of that school, or inside that restaurant. It actually took less than a year for EVERYTHING to become even more shit and immediately face massive backlash from everyone outside the program.


"Harm reduction" is also devastating to the community. They drop one of the safe injection sites in a community and the community is immediately destroyed. They purposely try to spread them out into "good" communities because localizing all these services create, what Snoop Dogg called "the worst place he has ever seen in his life" when he was visiting Vancouvers DTES. So they put them in random, everyday neighborhoods. How bad can that be? Well now transients flock to the area (especially in the cities where drugs aren't legal, because they almost always are "safe zones" where you won't be arrested). Even when they're open these places don't have security, enforcers, anyone to make them actually use their drugs inside and move along. Outside of active hours they stay loitering around the neighborhood so suddenly you have a homeless hotspot, and not just homeless but specifically the drug addicted ones. Now there's more crime in said areas, property damage and assaults increase, kids are having to step over OD's to go to school, needles all over alleys. The safe injection sites have no responsibility, nor do they do anything at all, to address the chaos that gets added outside. The police won't respond because "at least they're in one spot, and it's a safe zone". Then the violent drug gangs move in, because that's where all their clients are, and start fighting over turf. Now innocent mothers are accidentally being shot in the head.


People point to Portugal and go "well see, drugs don't get you arrested and it's paradise!!" and skip over the fact that no, when you get caught with drugs you get shown programs instead of arrested but it's NOT a free reign drug pit. They have deeply involved, mandatory treatments programs that are THE main aspect that actually helps solve the issues.
 
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It (potentially but hopefully doesn't) opens the door for exempting someone from 1A (or any constitutional) rights if AI is involved. I doubt it'll lead to complete censorship, but picking and choosing exemptions to the constitution never ends well. I want to remain positive on this one, but this is the government we're talking about here.
If you read closer into the bill, it refers to a lot of penal codes that relates to pornography that is obscene. In the same section that I listed, it refers to the Texas Penal Code Sec. 43.21, which covers definitions. In the section, it exempts material that is considered "serious literary, artistic, political, and scientific value". Which basically encompasses fictional media ranging from Berserk to 120 Days of Sodom & Blood Meridian. I doubt that they were even considering anime when drafting this bill, let alone lolicon & shotacon. As this entire thing primarily targets AI-generated content, which is a bigger and more pressing topic to government officials than the group of fringe weirdos enjoying lolishota.

I understand the concern, but this is not the bill to be stressing about (in terms of government overreach). If anything, this was inevitable. I'm not surprised that government officials are starting to attack AI-generated content, considering that these models are starting to become halfway decent.
 
Disagree, you can't reasonably consider yourself an anime fan and not be a pedophile. Literally every person with an anime profile picture on social media is a pedophile
I dare you to watch Ghost in the Shell (1995) and not come away being exclusively attracted to big booba and older women.

If you read closer into the bill, it refers to a lot of penal codes that relates to pornography that is obscene. In the same section that I listed, it refers to the Texas Penal Code Sec. 43.21, which covers definitions. In the section, it exempts material that is considered "serious literary, artistic, political, and scientific value". Which basically encompasses fictional media ranging from Berserk to 120 Days of Sodom & Blood Meridian. I doubt that they were even considering anime when drafting this bill, let alone lolicon & shotacon.
That's actually what makes me hopeful about this bill. They are (at least to some extent) trying to preserve actual artistic intent.
As this entire thing primarily targets AI-generated content, which is a bigger and more pressing topic to government officials than the group of fringe weirdos enjoying lolishota.
And this is the part that doesn't. It's hinging on it involving AI because.. why? What fundamentally makes it any different from Photoshop or a pencil? If this bill didn't laser focus on AI I'd be far less concerned, but even that (as noted by BoomerSperg) should already be covered under obscenity laws right? Something doesn't add up here, but I'm not sure if I'm qualified enough to articulate it.
 
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The whole thing feels kinda muddled, and that's why I'm not fully on board with it. In my eyes, I feel like it could go beyond loli shit and now characters that are portrayed as being fully developed are gonna be under fire too (what with Dress Up Darling and such). Maybe I'm just dooming, but it feels a tad bit unstable.
- Is against depictions of CSAM being illegal
- Has loli pfp

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I thought they went after him for distribution because he was selling the obscene material? That is the major difference between his website and something like All the Fallen.
Around three women including the kid of one of his old business partners came forward and said he molested/raped them as kids. Statue of limitations was passed already though.

Who knows whether it's that or SELLING that obscene material that made them mad.
 
- Is against depictions of CSAM being illegal
- Has loli pfp

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I’m too tired to engage in this shit, I didn’t say I was against the law itself, just that the law wasn’t constructed in the best way considering all the holes it leaves up to interpretation.
 
There's a funny possibility the senator only wanted to ban AI generated CSAM, gave no thought to Japanese cartoons, and is now currently horrified at what his constituency has suddenly become. Poor man.

Possible future holiday?
@Null could you make another "remember that Nick Bate is still in prison" type of event? "September the first 2025 US banned all AI CSAM, loli avatars left in tears, thousands found dead. Never forget"
 
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our cops have better stuff to do 100% of the time - so they are always, ALWAYS tacked on to go after people who actually have real CP or harmed real kids.
I would have issues with this legislations if the cops actually did prioritized fiction over actual crimes.

It's the reason why I find European politicians trying to ban manga and anime meanwhile they do absolutely nothing to stop the constant migrant rapes and grooming gangs in their countries laughable.


What fundamentally makes it any different from Photoshop or a pencil?
They aren't? I thought the law clearly makes it so AI is no exception to the law as any other medium of expression. Of course the magnitude of the charge might differ with it being AI, but it seems like any form of depiction of child porn is not allowed.
 
I think people are making a massive assumption in thinking that AI CP is trained off of real children, or mistaking img2img with image generation without references.

While the technology is constantly improving, it often struggles to perfectly generate objects it has millions of references of, most infamously hands. So I find it hard to believe that most commercially available AI generators can make a highly realistic and convincing rendering of illegal material, thanks to the scant amount that can be scraped on the clear web. I can't speak for myself since I never tried it. But it doesn't seem all too implausible since you have examples like AI struggling to render a wine glass filled to the brim, despite it being incredibly easy to find one stock image on Google. I'm not denying that several illegal images can pass when it scrapes the internet, and that alone is a disturbing thought, but proliferation of AI CP was only negligibly contributed by actual CP on the internet.

However, what is not scant is the millions of lolicon images and images of children in bathing suits.

AI image generators can be fine tuned and controlled using something called a LoRA which are essentially a model to fit a certain style or subject, which takes significantly less training images. Now yes, through this method you can use actual CSAM to generate images, but for most LoRAs for that purpose, they probably used the wealth of sources available on Pixiv to achieve creation of the image.

I know some people want to make this dividing line between drawn child porn and AI generated child porn, but the latter probably wouldn't have existed if not the abundence of the former.

I feel like there would be problems for that argument for lolicons who make the moral distinction between the two, because if the argument that an AI image is illegal because it was poisoned by what it was trained from (Real children), what does that imply if the AI image is deemed illegal but it only directly trained exclusively from drawn CP? Shouldn't drawn CP be considered to be a contributing the manufacturer of illegal content?

I still think you should be arrested for training off of actual naked children, because that is already a crime of possession. People who will get arrested because of SB 20 are most likely people who already possess real pornography.
 
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Speaking as an ex-libertarian,

After reading all the pages where people sperg about how this violates the 1st amendment or something, or is a slippery slope to giving the government more power to censor people for other unrelated reasons, even if all that were true (it's not, lmao)...

If your ideal vision of a "free" society is where any ruling body is too cowardly to do something about all the disgusting perverts publishing and downloading the vilest of pornography imaginable, destroying both themselves and anyone they come into contact with (especially children and autistic adults)...

Maybe you don't deserve to live in a free society. The authoritarians have the moral high ground. You've already lost the battle before it's even started.
 
Speaking as an ex-libertarian,

After reading all the pages where people sperg about how this violates the 1st amendment or something, or is a slippery slope to giving the government more power to censor people for other unrelated reasons, even if all that were true (it's not, lmao)...

If your ideal vision of a "free" society is where any ruling body is too cowardly to do something about all the disgusting perverts publishing and downloading the vilest of pornography imaginable, destroying both themselves and anyone they come into contact with (especially children and autistic adults)...

Maybe you don't deserve to live in a free society. The authoritarians have the moral high ground. You've already lost the battle before it's even started.
I dunno man, if I were to go down the slippery slope I would personally start with imprisoning anti-vaxxers since you're kinda responsible for way more deaths than fictional drawings.
 
If your ideal vision of a "free" society is where any ruling body is too cowardly to do something about all the disgusting perverts publishing and downloading the vilest of pornography imaginable, destroying both themselves and anyone they come into contact with (especially children and autistic adults)...

Maybe you don't deserve to live in a free society. The authoritarians have the moral high ground. You've already lost the battle before it's even started.
Well, you see, according to discussions that were had elsewhere on the site, society itself should be the ones to reform the pedophiles (specifically reform, because punishing offenders is bad) and the authoritarians should have no right to dictate the rights and lives of others. Enforcing things is bad.

But the authoritarians are also wrong because they attack the consumers rather than going after the sources of CSAM. But, even if they went after the sources, it would still be wrong because they're asserting control over the lives of others.

Dude, you should just calm down so we can actually discuss this. First, I need you to agree with me that authoritarianism is bad.

I hope the sarcasm leaking from this post is palpable.
 
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