Debate @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST on the slippery slope of making loli porn illegal - At the user's own request.

[Dr. Ricearoni]

I am in agreement that the government shouldn't decide what is and isn't allowed on the internet, but I'm not exactly going to cry if the government says what isn't allowed on the internet is pedophiles and their gross porn.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

No. No they can't. We're talking about one very specific thing here that most everyone would find objectionable aside from the people who want to fuck children.

I've said this multiple times at this point but, I would be on your side if it wasn't about child porn.

 

[Kovachs]

Didn't Joseph Smith marry a 14 year old as a 37 year old man?

I guess I won't get my answer. So sad.

Rest in Peace Helen.

 

[draggs]

Thread's gone on long enough most of the shitters shot their load.

The problem with obscenity laws is that they're subjective, and the problem with any subjective law is that as politics changes, Judges will abuse the fuck out of it. If Texas managed to actually define and pin down and frame in porn as porn and only that, great, but I've yet to see anyone not make an exploitable subjective law.

The obscenity law has always been subjective and it's worked very well because the subjective standard for obscenity has always been set very high by judges awkshoolly

But prurient shit appealing to pedos has always cleared that bar, pedos want that to change OF COURSE

 

[Pro-Islam = Anti-Woman]

I am in agreement that the government shouldn't decide what is and isn't allowed on the internet, but I'm not exactly going to cry if the government says what isn't allowed on the internet is pedophiles and their gross porn.

I feel like everyone who defends loli porn is pretending that these people wouldn't masturbate to child porn if it was legal. They're just using loli porn as a substitute.

 

[taxisguy]

I might be retarded, but I'm also only looking at this thread at this point when someone I haven't Ignored (like you) quotes me in it. I have this hope that someone posting here will have an intelligent opinion on the thread's subject.

and your opinion is so much better nigga pls

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

I feel like everyone who defends loli porn is pretending that these people wouldn't masturbate to child porn if it was legal. They're just using loli porn as a substitute.

BUT CHUD, LOLICON DOESNT EQUATE TO ME HARMING AN ACTUAL CHILD DUMBASS

 

[pilesthebeaver]

Anybody can make this agrument about why any piece of media that isn't 100% postive should be banned.

You could argue this if there weren't externalities, but these images are used for EPI and worse by pedo groomers.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

I might be retarded

 

[bear hammer]

The difference is that pornsick men who masturbate to lolicon are pedophiles, and will probably rape children. So yes it does stop real harm.

You are literally using the same arguments boomers made to try to ban FPS games. "ahhh they are killing people in the video game.. this is gonna make them want to do it in real life!"

No. No they can't. We're talking about one very specific thing here that most everyone would find objectionable aside from the people who want to fuck children.

Anybody can just put in something they find really offensive in that same sentence and use it has a justfication for why it should be banned.

"The "taste of humor" in question is depictions of trans women killing themselves without any literary, artistic, historical, educational, or scientific merit, by the way."

"This 'taste' is of you shooting people in a video game without any literary, artistic, historical, educational, or scientific merit, by the way."

 

[Pro-Islam = Anti-Woman]

You are literally using the same agruments boomers made to try to ban FPS games. "ahhh they are killing people in the video game.. this is gonna make them want to do it in real life!"

Yeah except in this case I am correct. Are you saying if someone masturbates to child porn they are equally as likely as someone who doesn't masturbate to rape children?

 

[taxisguy]

Anybody can just put in something they find really offensive in that same sentence and use it has a justfication for why it should be banned.

Nigga your a broken record

 

[WelperHelper99]

Then just say that, you're fine with the government policing what people can draw. Hope you’re just as enthusiastic when they decide to ban edgy humor, violent video games, or whatever else some future moral crusader decides is dangerous. You don’t get to pick and choose which freedoms are okay to sacrifice.

What is it with manchildren and the constant fear mongering about "violent video games", a talking point from over 30 years ago?

 

[Gravemind]

I feel like everyone who defends loli porn is pretending that these people wouldn't masturbate to child porn if it was legal. They're just using loli porn as a substitute.

You know, I'm going to be completely transparent here for a moment.

I was of the same exact mindset not that long ago. I also used to think "the lolicon question" was something of a grey area and I frowned upon some of the more fanatical takes I saw people having in threads like Loli/Shota Defenders.

What finally convinced me that the zero tolerance approach has merit was seeing the sheer meltdown these people were having at the thread's existence from across the internet. All the "lolicons" making up outlandish narratives about the Farms and individual users with zero basis just so they could rile people up in their own outrage. The fact that so many of these same people essentially went "Yeah, I want to fuck kids and it's BASED," as though it was a valid defense. How many people have been, and continue to get, exposed for their own masturbatory proclivities after taking the same "sensible, reasonable" approach in trying to argue things like "grey areas" and "gubmint overreach". Most notably, how many of them keep outing themselves on here now that this has become more of a hot button issue with newfound merit.

Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Just like how these same people claim to have seen similar laws and bills being "slippery slopes" to abuse of power, I've seen enough cases in just the last few months alone to indicate that anyone who passionately attempts to defend lolicon is more than likely hiding plenty of skeletons in their own closet.

Anybody can just put in something they find really offensive in that same sentence and use it has a justfication for why it should be banned.

Alright, since a couple of you retards also wanted to bring up South Park as a point of reference for this sort of thing, let me post a relevant clip as to why your argument is retarded:

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Just like how these same people claim to have seen similar laws and bills being "slippery slopes" to abuse of power, I've seen enough cases in just the last few months alone to indicate that anyone who passionately attempts to defend lolicon is more than likely hiding plenty of skeletons in their own closet.

I'm glad you noticed that. zero tolerance on pedophilia is a just society.

 

[bear hammer]

Yeah except in this case I am correct. Are you saying if someone masturbates to child porn they are equally as likely as someone who doesn't masturbate to rape children?

"That's not what I'm saying at all. You're equating two very different things. A person watching or consuming certain media isn't necessarily going to act on it in real life, and there’s a difference between fantasy and action. My point is that censorship based on moral discomfort, whether it’s video games or any other form of media, leads to a dangerous precedent. Focus on actions that actually cause harm, not just things that make people uncomfortable.

Nigga your a broken record

Because literally nobody has addressed that point.

What is it with manchildren and the constant fear mongering about "violent video games", a talking point from over 30 years ago?

Because it's a good example, the same arguments that were used to demonize violent video games decades ago are now being used by you for other forms of media.

 

[Pro-Islam = Anti-Woman]

"That's not what I'm saying at all. You're equating two very different things. A person watching or consuming certain media isn't necessarily going to act on it in real life, and there’s a difference between fantasy and action. My point is that censorship based on moral discomfort, whether it’s video games or any other form of media, leads to a dangerous precedent. Focus on actions that actually cause harm, not just things that make people uncomfortable.

So you think someone who masturbates to child porn is not likely to offend in real life, even if the porn is drawn?

 

[WelperHelper99]

You know, I'm going to be completely transparent here for a moment.

I was of the same exact mindset not that long ago. I also used to think "the lolicon question" was something of a grey area and I frowned upon some of the more fanatical takes I saw people having in threads like Loli/Shota Defenders.

What finally convinced me that the zero tolerance approach has merit was seeing the sheer meltdown these people were having at the thread's existence from across the internet. All the "lolicons" making up outlandish narratives about the Farms and individual users with zero basis just so they could rile people up in their own outrage. The fact that so many of these same people essentially went "Yeah, I want to fuck kids and it's BASED," as though it was a valid defense. How many people have been, and continue to get, exposed for their own masturbatory proclivities after taking the same "sensible, reasonable" approach in trying to argue things like "grey areas" and "gubmint overreach". Most notably, how many of them keep outing themselves on here now that this has become more of a hot button issue with newfound merit.

Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Just like how these same people claim to have seen similar laws and bills being "slippery slopes" to abuse of power, I've seen enough cases in just the last few months alone to indicate that anyone who passionately attempts to defend lolicon is more than likely hiding plenty of skeletons in their own closet.


Alright, since a couple of you retards also wanted to bring up South Park as a point of reference for this sort of thing, let me post a relevant clip as to why your argument is retarded:

I always kinda knew it was going to happen the second I made the Rev thread. That however was the Sayian arc to the Lolicon/Shotacon Defenders thread's Freiza Arc. The lolicons chimped out at a scale even I wasn't expecting. Most shocking though was those coming from with in. It's sad how many times I've had to report Lolishitters. Pathetic really.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Because it's a good example, the same arguments that were used to demonize violent video games decades ago are now being used by you for other forms of media.

Ah yes Children's games definitely equals Child Porn. Grow up you fucking manlet

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

"That's not what I'm saying at all. You're equating two very different things. A person watching or consuming certain media isn't necessarily going to act on it in real life, and there’s a difference between fantasy and action. My point is that censorship based on moral discomfort, whether it’s video games or any other form of media, leads to a dangerous precedent. Focus on actions that actually cause harm, not just things that make people uncomfortable.

it's child porn.