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I know it's easy to doom and gloom when you see shit judges do things like this but you gota remember that Trump has some of the best lawyers in the business on his side so there is zero chance they didn't know this was coming.

The Dems spent the last 8 year building this buffer in the judiciary to styme any attempt to reverse course. This was known, this was accounted for. Again there is zero chance Trump and Co didn't know this would happen. How often has Trump said the Dems weaponized the DoJ? They knew every step they took the Dems would fight tooth and nail to stop, even the ones that would benefit them just because Orange Man Bad.

Sure the Prog-tards on BlandSky and Twatter crow and cheer when they read some Dem Judge reversed some EO but we were never going to save those people. Trump isn't and shouldn't try to win them over, they are lost to their madness and cannot be saved. These are the people who cheer when they read some Dem Judge orders 5,000 criminal gang members released back into the US . They laugh and stomp their fat feet when a Dem Judge issues a unfounded TRO that slows a Trump EO even though that's another step towards a final show down at the SCOTUS.

But you know what the average American thinks when he reads that headline? Trust me he's not happy to hear that gang-members are being brought back to the US. He's not happy knowing thousands of illegals are back on the streets of his city sucking up his tax dollars because some Dem judge has terminal TDS. He's not happy seeing some judge try to order around the PotUS because of some bleeding heart proggie who believes "no human is illegal, even the one stabbing me in the face right now". Remember the exit polls, this shit the Democrats are pulling is not the will of anyone but the crazy Left-tards who are now the core of the Democratic Party.

These are the people Trump wants to convert and the Progressive fools are doing most of the work for him by fighting for shit like that and crowing everytime it happens.

Go watch the Rasmussen video they put out today. The Democrat party is polling terribly. The average Democrat voter has higher approval numbers for Trump then their own party and it's because of shit like this. The Progressive wing has so taken hold of the DNC that they will burn down the house rather then give it up and try to change to what the voters want because they would rather be dead, and take everyone with them, then give up power.

The best line from that Rasmussen poll was "the average Democrat voter hates the Democrat Party".

Remember your Sun Tzu: never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake and boy howdy are the core Dem politicians fucking up right left and centre.

These judges will be censured, these judgments will be over-turned on appeal and Trump will come out stronger for it so give them time. The wheels of justice move at a retarded snails pace. (just ask Null whose still fighting a case 5 years later and it hasn't even really started yet) and the war has only just begun.
 
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The Judiciary branch is speedrunning the graph of fucking around to finding out. The governing branches are equal. Quite a few federal judges seem to not understand what that means, or just how badly the Executive, which has equal authority to them, can clown them. Its been done before.

Trump in fact has a statue of a President who told the federal Judiciary they were free to try and enforce their orders against him in his office.
And he isn't as forgiving as he was in his first term
 
We're getting dangerously close to the point where we just have to tell these judges to eat shit in that exact phrasing.

Dems want to employ their gay ops, MAGA has to find a way to counter it with even gayer ops.

It's bordering on seditious and quite frankly, I believe it already is.

I'd give them the rest of the year to step in line. If they want to keep playing their little fag games beyond that, it's going to sadly be time to fight dirty.
 
Trump should sign an executive order (or maybe have the congress do an act, idk) to make it a crime to put illegals in slavery-like conditions. It's already becoming illegal to hire them, but this will make it even harder for them to find work and further decentivize them coming over here. No point hiring an illegal if they have to be paid a normal wage, have good living conditions, etc.

It will also make the dems look insane when they resist protecting illegals from slavery lol.
How would that work if it's already illegal to hire them? "You can't hire these people, but if you do anyway, you have to pay them better"? If they're breaking the law regarding not hiring them, why would they follow the one about how they treat them?
 
We're getting dangerously close to the point where we just have to tell these judges to eat shit in that exact phrasing.

Dems want to employ their gay ops, MAGA has to find a way to counter it with even gayer ops.

It's bordering on seditious and quite frankly, I believe it already is.

I'd give them the rest of the year to step in line. If they want to keep playing their little fag games beyond that, it's going to sadly be time to fight dirty.
I’m not so merciful as to give them the end of the year. I’d personally give them until May/June.

They know where the wind is blowing, and it’s high time they went in that direction, or they can and will FTF out.

How would that work if it's already illegal to hire them? "You can't hire these people, but if you do anyway, you have to pay them better"? If they're breaking the law regarding not hiring them, why would they follow the one about how they treat them?
Insurrection Act of 1807.
 
How would that work if it's already illegal to hire them? "You can't hire these people, but if you do anyway, you have to pay them better"? If they're breaking the law regarding not hiring them, why would they follow the one about how they treat them?
No, not quite, OP's idea is based on the premise that gay megacompanies hire illegal labor because it's cheap. The idea being that the pay floor would be raised such that there's no longer an advantage to hiring illegal labor. Why take the risk hiring illegals that could be ICE'd on any given day that absolutely cannot be discovered through the likes of OSHA claims and such, especially when that all results in the company losing its labor force on top of potentially being smacked with fines? It becomes more trouble than it's worth.

The problem with OP's idea is that a lot of that pay is probably under the table, chalked up as rounding errors on the books so the IRS doesn't come knocking or something other. In any case, if that pay isn't being documented to begin with then mandating it be raised doesn't do anything since it wouldn't be reported to begin with. I could be wrong, but I'm under the assumption that a lot of illegal labor is paid under the table.
 
I worry that the point of these judges going rogue is to make Trump ignore them. It's what they want. This will provide fuel to the dems talking points about him being a dictator and rally their supporters to become even more unhinged. But I dont know what other solution exists either.

I have no idea how this high level government shit works but maybe drag the judges into some kind of deposition like setting and have them explain why they want terrorists to stay in the country. Humilate them in public so everyone can see how retarded they're being to make ignoring them easier.
 
No, not quite, OP's idea is based on the premise that gay megacompanies hire illegal labor because it's cheap. The idea being that the pay floor would be raised such that there's no longer an advantage to hiring illegal labor. Why take the risk hiring illegals that could be ICE'd on any given day that absolutely cannot be discovered through the likes of OSHA claims and such, especially when that all results in the company losing its labor force on top of potentially being smacked with fines? It becomes more trouble than it's worth.

The problem with OP's idea is that a lot of that pay is probably under the table, chalked up as rounding errors on the books so the IRS doesn't come knocking or something other. In any case, if that pay isn't being documented to begin with then mandating it be raised doesn't do anything since it wouldn't be reported to begin with. I could be wrong, but I'm under the assumption that a lot of illegal labor is paid under the table.
Illegal labor is cheap BECAUSE it's under the table and therefore not subject to anything enforcing a pay floor, and it's under the table because it's illegal to have it on the books, that's the point

An analogy, this is like the government declaring a legal minimum wage for pimps to pay streetwalkers
 
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The Judiciary branch is speedrunning the graph of fucking around to finding out. The governing branches are equal. Quite a few federal judges seem to not understand what that means, or just how badly the Executive, which has equal authority to them, can clown them. Its been done before.
I hate 4d chess theories as anything other than funny memes, but goddamn if these judges aren't trying their hardest to give Trump a win on shutting them the fuck down. Turning around the flights doesn't even make sense in a judicial balance of powers - Whether they're gang members or subject to the invaders act or not is irrelevant to the fact they've already been rounded up and deported on the completely legitimate charge of illegal immigration, which got them on these planes in the first place. And none of that matters when there's basically no arguable damages to the person for deporting them now. Removing them from the country doesn't deny them income, as they cannot legally work, does not deny them property which they cannot legally own, and does not count as cruel or unusual punishment as they are simply being returned under perfectly established legal precedent to a safe country.

There's literally no grounds for anything to be stopped even if the judge wants to litigate it. Its beyond stupid, and it screams of begging to be slapped down. Which is where the 4d chess comes in, wondering if some of these judges have some awful shit being held against their backs, so they're going nuclear, hoping to be forced out or ruling coming down making it impossible for them, to avoid whatever blackmail being triggered.
 
do you guys some nights feel like it wont matter to much what this admin does because so much systemic damage is already in place?
Imagine how the opposition feels. Trump has wrecked their plans. Their supply chains are being dismantled. They are being forced to show their cards over and over.


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It is empathetic of you to care about other's suffering. Take care of yourself, so you can care for others when you are able. Altruism is good, but remember it is logical to care for your loved ones more than nebulous groups of people. Only liberal retards care about inanimate rocks more than their family.
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sorry I might just be in a negative place
Everyone's mind acts like a stupid faggot sometimes. You mentioned new work recently; that can sap willpower. If you're stuck in negative thoughts, instead of thinking more, improve your ability to think by getting good rest, eating better, going for a walk, talking with a friend or loved one, going in nature, disconnecting from a source of stress, etc. Then after you are able to think better you can dwell on the issue of concern.
but my fear is no matter how much correction we make we are simply to far gone
Can't know if you'll win unless you keep fighting. Think of all the crazy improbable events in recent times, and throughout history. Bro, Kamala timeline is over; we're back on the Trump timeline.
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What the fuck are they thinking when they do this? Do they think the people would cheer for them over this? This isn't some group of normal illegals, these are straight up prison gangsters who don't even DESERVE the courtesy to breathe the same air as we do. This is why nobody likes you or your party, or anyone in a position of authority. Fucking unreal.
They're demoralized. They literally can't think any stronger about this than the following assumptions, which are always true in their minds:
  • Brown people are inherently innocent and good.
  • All people have the right to be in the United States at all times (except Whites).
  • Trump is not legitimate and nothing he does is valid.
Combine that with the Judge's "I'm literally a Divine force and everyone has to bow down to" attitude that's common amongst the stench from the bench and you get this kind of ruling.

To the left, calling them prison gangs is racist. Yes, it might be true, but it's still racist to point it out. Why is it racist? Because they're brown and it's racist. But Trump has the right - the duty - to throw these people out? No, he's not REALLY the president because the left didn't pick him. Yes he might have TECHNICALLY won an election but that's only because he cheated better than they did. Yes he might have TECHNICALLY won the popular vote but after the count was completed he only got 49.99999% of the country's vote, which is TECHNICALLY higher than Kamala got but not REALLY a popular vote win. Yes he might have won every swing state but we all know they're only swing states because they have so many clueless racist fascists that even with fortification they still vote the wrong way sometimes.

Or, to put it another way, they see nothing wrong with keeping a bunch of prison gangs in the US. They do, however, see a major fucking problem with you noticing these brown people are criminals.
 
I have no idea how this high level government shit works but maybe drag the judges into some kind of deposition like setting and have them explain why they want terrorists to stay in the country. Humilate them in public so everyone can see how retarded they're being to make ignoring them easier.
Congressional hearings are public on c-span. Trump could just have a chain of Dem activist judges publicly defrocked by a panel of hostile senators.
 
I know it's easy to doom and gloom when you see shit judges do things like this but you gota remember that Trump has some of the best lawyers in the business on his side so there is zero chance they didn't know this was coming.
I for one am not even remotely gloom-and-dooming about this stuff in the slightest. This situation is endlessly fascinating to me -- the judiciary is trying to quite literally usurp the executive's authority, in what (I think) is an unprecedented situation in US history. They can't possibly expect this to go well for them ("they" being both the idiots behind the scenes making these judges dance and of course the judges themselves) and I'm eager to see how this blows up in their faces.

Obviously the dems think this will "force" Trump to ignore them so they can cry "TYRANT!" ... but they seem not to have considered the other likely possibility: Trump solves these issues a different way and then uses these instances as justification to hang the judiciary by the neck for treason. Ordering violent criminals directly imported into the country against the orders of the President is an interesting way for the judiciary to not look like tyrants. Not to mention the fact that it's literally violating the law, right on its face, and is openly treasonous, and for no apparent benefit to the American people or the nation as a whole. This will be astonishingly hard to defend later on.

I have no idea how this high level government shit works but maybe drag the judges into some kind of deposition like setting and have them explain why they want terrorists to stay in the country. Humilate them in public so everyone can see how retarded they're being to make ignoring them easier.
Impeachment will do this. I just hope the congresscritters promising to do it actually follow through.
 
See this is the difference between liberal justices and conservative justices conservative justices were drive knives into the back of the fellow conservatives but left is just distance would just do whatever benefits select the United States conservative judicial movement is a failure because they should just appoint people who benefit the right who cares what the Constitution says anymore
 
do you guys some nights feel like it wont matter to much what this admin does because so much systemic damage is already in place?

in 2022 nearly 50,000 people died by their own hand in the united states
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sorry I might just be in a negative place but my fear is no matter how much correction we make we are simply to far gone
There is nowhere else to go. There is no plan B here. There is no where to flee from America to regroup and rebuild peacefully or safely.

Canada? Dead nation. UK? Completely subverted by globalists to punish them for Brexit, currently undergoing ethnic cleansing. Europe? Subverted by globalists. Australia / NZ? Subverted by globalists and China. Mexico? Subverted by cartels to harm the US. Japan? Korea? Niggers fucking with them for superchats ruined that for the rest of us. There is no where else to go. When America falls, the only option will be to take it back.

There is no one coming to save us, either. Trump represents us saving ourselves. He was put in power by people like us. The existing GOPe wasn't going to do shit. The RINOs weren't going to do shit. The Democrats were complicit and thought it was funny. Populists putting Trump in power at the explicit objection and complete concentration of force of the existing political powers was a political miracle we'll be talking about for a century.

That is the truth of it. No matter how bad it gets, and it's likely going to get worse before it gets better, we don't have a choice.

There is no one coming to save us. It is up to us. Everyone stays, everyone fights.

This counts for the farms, too. Free speech is dead everywhere else on the Internet. You can't even get an email account if you openly expressed some of the opinions in this thread or discussed cows like we do. There is no where else to go.

How to support the forum.
 
Illegal labor is cheap BECAUSE it's under the table and therefore not subject to anything enforcing a pay floor, and it's under the table because it's illegal to have it on the books, that's the point

An analogy, this is like the government declaring a legal minimum wage for pimps to pay streetwalkers
That's what I'm saying, is that the hole in OP's plan is that mandating a higher pay doesn't work since they're not reporting it in the first place. Another issue is how do you even determine that a disparity in pay between two given employees is worth examining? There are a lot of issues with OP's suggestion.
Or, to put it another way, they see nothing wrong with keeping a bunch of prison gangs in the US. They do, however, see a major fucking problem with you noticing these brown people are criminals.
And boy do they ever. Try pointing this out in any sort of leftist-dominated space. I've tried, even qualifying my views with "I don't care if you immigrate by rules", but the second you say you only want the violent ones out you'll be put to the stake.
 
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