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Should be a wild four years.

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The same thing a lot of here want the GOP to do during the Biden Admin, and they promptly called them RINOs, cucks, and uniparty stooges for refusing to do.
Alot of people just wanted the GOP to actually legislate rather than letting Dems literally get everything they want everytime. GOP would play government shutdown brinkmanship and never actually accomplish anything. Ironic that it is now Dems who had this happen to them.
 
Alot of people just wanted the GOP to actually legislate rather than letting Dems literally get everything they want everytime. GOP would play government shutdown brinkmanship and never actually accomplish anything. Ironic that it is now Dems who had this happen to them.
And were they suppose to accomplish that? They had a narrow 4 seat lead in the house and a 50/50 in the senate that Kamala would break, to end with a Biden admin that could veto anything they could get across.
 
I forget the country, but the US public education system was based on another country's that had the explicit goal of training factory workers. People just smart enough to run the machines but not smart enough to rise above their lot in life.

I believe that it's usually attributed to Prussia if it's the same quote that I'm thinking of. There's another, similar one that states that there are only two systems that are basically unchanged since the country was founded. The prison system and the education system.

To what extent you want to believe those is up to you, but the notion that our education system is in need of change or reform is hardly new. Destroying the grip up the teacher's union and giving parents the ability to choose schools will by itself lead to better outcomes. If nothing else it gives those who want to find a better way the opportunity to do so and even if some of them don't do much better, eventually something will be more successful.
 
I know it's easy to doom and gloom when you see shit judges do things like this but you gota remember that Trump has some of the best lawyers in the business on his side so there is zero chance they didn't know this was coming.
to be fair, fanboys literally said that back in 2020 when trump tried to get the courts to see biden cheated in the election.
I’m not so merciful as to give them the end of the year. I’d personally give them until May/June
too bad trump's giving them the next 4 years.
y. They can't possibly expect this to go well for them
except they can, Roberts and most of the rest of the appeals and supreme court judges are spineless cucks and won't stop them. Its like when a black guy commits a crime, why wouldn't they expect shit to go well for them? they commit 90 other offensives without being smacked down for it. why would it start now?
Most people who say stuff like still end up driving newer cars out of convenience. Meanwhile, I'm driving around in a 1991 Mercury. Not very many people put their money where their mouth is, sadly.
honestly if you look at what people are doing with the ECU in cars the last decade or so i'm sure if you look hard enough someone or some group has come out of a way to remove a lot of the features in these cars people are afraid of, basically making an "unchromium" version of the cars.
 
The Democratic Party’s favorability rating among Americans stands at a record low, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, fueled in part by dimming views from its own frustrated supporters.
Remember when CNN saved Kamala's ass in the final week of the election by giving her a massive +6 in Wisconsin that just barely dragged her above water in the RCP average?
 
“As of October 2014 the CIA was also looking at infecting the vehicle control systems used by modern cars and trucks. The purpose of such control is not specified, but it would permit the CIA to engage in nearly undetectable assassinations.” -Wikileaks Vault 7
Michael Hastings’ assassination: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/03/09/hastings-m09.html
What's wild about all this is that this isn't even secret; there are numerous examples in cyberpunk and other science-fiction stories of remotely-piloted vehicles getting hacked and used to kidnap or kill their occupants.
 
The Democratic Party’s favorability rating among Americans stands at a record low, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, fueled in part by dimming views from its own frustrated supporters.

With many in the party saying publicly that their leaders should do more to stand up to President Donald Trump, Democrats and Democratic-aligned independents say, 57% to 42%, that Democrats should mainly work to stop the Republican agenda, rather than working with the GOP majority to get some Democratic ideas into legislation.

The Democrats are fucked right now, and they need to figure out how they're going to cut the Gordian knot they find themselves in.

Their popularity is tanking, but it's not as clear-cut as that article implies. It's not just tanking because "democrats want them to stake a stronger stand against trump", it's also tanking because a lot of their policies and behaviors are reprehensible and wildly unpopular even among many of their constituents. Supporting violent gang members being allowed to remain in the US in a blind "all anti-immigration stances are bad" backlash, or going full-steam-ahead on the "men in women's sports" thing even as it's demonstrated time and time again that the result is neither safe nor fair. Coddling people like Mulvaney who make even honest trans women recoil in horror, and putting up with the recent "trans women are biological women" nonsense from some of the radical trans activists.

But if they try to step back to regain their more moderate supporters, they're going to lose their activist and radical supporters - as we've seen when they dared to even suggest they might not be entirely on the side of the Palestine protestors.

Right now, there is no winning move in the game for them.
 
Regarding 2020, the quality of Trumps lawyers, etc.

The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.

This all occurred, of course, when the revered Dr. Faucci said that in person voting would be safe. The one thing out of this guys fucking mouth that wasnt adhered slavishly or listened too and instead we got the mess that we got.

Though tbh, Trump not backing down and winning in 2024 was almost worth all the bullshit. Almost.
 
Regarding 2020, the quality of Trumps lawyers, etc.

The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.

This all occurred, of course, when the revered Dr. Faucci said that in person voting would be safe. The one thing out of this guys fucking mouth that wasnt adhered slavishly or listened too and instead we got the mess that we got.

Though tbh, Trump not backing down and winning in 2024 was almost worth all the bullshit. Almost.
I feel you. But I still haven't been told when the exact moment standing is lost or when mootness begins.

The timing on these cases is like trying to win a rigged carnival game.
 
The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.
That is 100% NOT TRUE. They DID try to file before the election. The judges told them their issue was that they didn't suffer any tangible, measurable damages. They specifically told the Trump Administration they wouldn't hear the case because he hadn't lost the election yet. Effectively saying, you cannot sue before the election. So once the election had happened, they turned around and claimed standing and latches. Effectively saying you cannot sue over the election because you cannot sue before or during and you cannot sue after due to standings. It was a 100% corrupt decision and never forget it was fucking that traitor Roberts that did it.

As it currently stands in the US you cannot sue over a clearly rigged election.
 
The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.
So what they did was still blatantly illegal, according to their own constitutions, but because Fauci said to do it no one had any standing to stop it?

I’m still pissed off about the DC judge ordering illegal gangs back into the country- it’s the most egregious case of (illegal) judicial overreach I’ve ever seen. A bureaucrat can override voting laws because of… a scamdemic? And a federal judge has more executive power than the president; he can order criminal gangs back into the country because… he says so? When neither of them have the authority to do either, but no one can go against because… no standing. It’s all fucking insane. Leftists can take their fascism rhetoric and shove it.

That is 100% NOT TRUE. They DID try to file before the election. The judges told them their issue was that they didn't suffer any tangible, measurable damages. They specifically told the Trump Administration they wouldn't hear the case because he hadn't lost the election yet. Effectively saying, you cannot sue before the election. So once the election had happened, they turned around and claimed standing and latches. Effectively saying you cannot sue over the election because you cannot sue before or during and you cannot sue after due to standings. It was a 100% corrupt decision and never forget it was fucking that traitor Roberts that did it.
Hey look more standing catch-22 retardation. God these courts are insane.
 
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So what they did was still blatantly illegal, according to their own constitutions, but because Fauci said to do it no one had any standing to stop it?

I’m still pissed off about the DC judge ordering illegal gangs back into the country- it’s the most egregious case of (illegal) judicial overreach I’ve ever seen. A bureaucrat can override voting laws because of… a scamdemic? And a federal judge has more executive power than the president; he can order criminal gangs back into the country because… he says so? When neither of them have the authority to do either, but no one can go against because… no standing. It’s all fucking insane. Leftists can take their fascism rhetoric and shove it.
And once again, it was Roberts that did this. Roberts had the chance to prevent ALL of this but his payroll would suffer so he refused to hear the case. These corrupt judges are allowed to do whatever they want because of him.
 
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