Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[WelperHelper99]

"The right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Minors" Just like the Founding Fathers intended

I know when the Founders were fighting The Battle of Bunker Hill, their first thoughts were to protecting the rights and liberties of child predators and chronic masterbaitors.

 

[Guacamole Nigga Penis]

I know when the Founders were fighting The Battle of Bunker Hill, their first thoughts were to protecting the rights and liberties of child predators and chronic masterbaitors.

The men at Omaha Beach and Iwo Jima fought for and protected the rights of lolicons and protected YOUR right to touch yourself to pictures and videos of 12 year old anime girls.

 

[Discord Nigger Drama]

Even temporary thread lock is not enough.

 

[MajorKurewsky]

The chief function of these laws is to allow federal agencies who don't like you to fill your devices with CSAM and then pile on charges. It's never been about protecting kids or actually stopping the people who exploit them.

If they want to fill your phone with illegal content then they can just do it with real world CSAM, they do not need this law. You should stop coping and realize you have problem and stop it before it is too late.

 

[Discord Nigger Drama]

If they want to fill your phone with illegal content then they can just do it with real world CSAM, they do not need this law. You should stop coping and realize you have problem and stop it before it is too late.

I'm pretty sure he got threadbanned.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Ah yes because it's not illegal if it's 16-17 (sarcasm). I said this on the Viv thread. But the AOC LAWS DO NOT PROTECT YOU FROM ANYTHING. It's for children of the same age and not your Sholi bs. AOC isn't even related to sex at all because you can still get arrested for satutary rape. You waiting til you get arrested or?

 

[gay]

This argument is EXACTLY the same as "video games cause violence".

no, because violence in video games does not extend as a proclivity to want to commit violence in real life, while if you're drawn to fictional children that's a reflection of the reality of your attraction, that's not something you leave with the medium like with how people can play GTA and then not develop a hankering to run over prostitutes, they're able to disconnect.

lolicons on the other hand, who do nothing but fantasize and jerk off to children, want to actually engage with that fantasy, they don't close their eyes and fantasize about sex with adults. it is the starting block towards the rabbit hole of depravity with child molestation as the conclusion if you let this festering shit become normal.

 

[IntelDementiumIII]

Imagine this: at some point AI generated lolicon images that utilise real images of children in their creation become utterly indistinguishable from 'ethical' child rape cartoons, they also outnumber them a million-fold+.
Even if only the former were to be made strictly illegal by the letter of the law, what does that mean for the latter in terms of enforcement when they are indistinguishable and there is a 99.999% chance any given image of such kind was created using real images of children?
AI is going to blow lolicons' shit to pieces in ways they aren't even thinking about yet, perhaps not even soon, but there absolutely will come a point where they will have to make a stand for images that use real kids in order to defend their cartoons from becoming collateral damage, or give up. And, personally, I don't expect them to give up.

 

[Gunslinger Spawn]

The thread is going to get locked again isn't it? People just can't report and move on.

 

[SugarKane]

The thread is going to get locked again isn't it? People just can't report and move on.

By the looks of things, the user is gone so we can go back to the main subject.

Edit : the account i was working on just got soft banned as i was working...
Just my bloody luck.

 

[Gravemind]

Imagine this: at some point AI generated lolicon images that utilise real images of children in their creation

Kind of a moot point when there's a plethora of cases that show that a not insignificant amount of lolicon is, in fact, drawn referencing actual CSAM.

The thread is going to get locked again isn't it? People just can't report and move on.

Well, it certainly doesn't help matters when reports go unaddressed while the retards keep kicking the hornet's nest.

 

[Pro-Islam = Anti-Woman]

The thread is going to get locked again isn't it? People just can't report and move on.

It's certainly not hard to ban people for advocating for pedophilia, even a thread ban would work.

 

[What the shit]

The thread is going to get locked again isn't it? People just can't report and move on.

We shouldn't lock the thread arguing is funny.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Well, it certainly doesn't help matters when reports go unaddressed while the retards keep kicking the hornet's nest.

Considering Josh is watching the thread, I'd say it's going to get handled. @Solid Hydrax is mega banned btw. Just for all the retards that keep barging in to know.

 

[Gravemind]

Considering Josh is watching the thread, I'd say it's going to get handled. @Solid Hydrax is mega banned btw. Just for all the retards that keep barging in to know.

Oh holy shit I didn't even notice.

Still, I think it may be a bit bold to presume he's keeping a close eye on things. He probably doesn't want to deal with this retardation any more than he has to.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

People don't normally goon to violence and criminality in media, maybe that's jut you.

What the fuck does gooning or sex have to do with violence in media arguments? Your moralcon fried brain seems pretty damn obsessed with other people's fantasies and imagination relating to sex.

"Photorealistic child pornography is probably intolerable" I think that the correct word is far harsher than "probably"

I mean i already pointed out the legal status currently. Unless you don't want to do anything about it?
You know what i meant. Stop playing word games.. The last desperate tactic of someone without an argument.

Ban it.

Well we kind of do under obscenity, but that is a shaky concept so something is probably going to have to be done more directly. Like i said, the court already ruled on this not too long ago. Even taking this possibility into account. Don't yell at me.

The photorealisic AI stuff is fair game for normal CP laws i think. If true that it is based on actual CP.

It's a crime aganist society at large, and for photorrealistic AI-generated imagery the crime is aganist any and all children whose imagery was used as a blueprint to help create said AI-generated pornography.

AI photorrealistic, yeah, a crime against society though.. It is a crime solely based on the victims and crimes created when the original CP it is based off of was made. As you said. No need for nebulous and dangerous other reasons. Again, the SC was pretty clear on this. Sadly, the one aspect they didn't touch on was AI and the content that goes into enabling its creations. It was before the advent of AI. I can imagine a ruling taking this into account.

It covers everything to not leave out loopholes and blindspots in the law.

Loopholes and blind spots to what? lol Don't pull that shit, it is pretty fucking clear what it covers. Past and similar attempts even use explicit terms making clear that images didn't even have to be "realistic" in basic design, didn't need to include real (named) people or be based off of anything. It was all about criminalizing imagination down to fucking B&W doodles!

If you don't care, don't post.

I think you missed the part of the law were they try to create thought crime, ban speech/fictional drawings and essentially outlaw whole styles of art.

What people don't seem to understand about the push back to the simple under 18-teen minor push back. Since these characters are imaginary and fictional, they can't have provable ages.. meaning you have to go off of author intent.. As we've seen across the fucking board over the years. Most don't, especially officials.. They go by what they feel the characters look like. If you can't see the danger in illegalizing fictional characters of an "age" where they are indistinguishable even in real life, and basing it all on looks.. I don' know what to tell you. Why do you think all western drawn and CG porn is made up of huge breasted middle aged looking female characters? Because of outside private pressure over this very aspect.. Now imagine it's a criminal law. hell, we already had/have(?) western counties banning real life women from appearing nude if they don't have big enough breasts etc.

This isn't a black and white concept, even beyond the greater speech aspects. This has the potential, and i'd argue the intent, to go well beyond loli and AI porn.

"Defend pedophiles or else the liberals (pedophiles) win"

More like "defend the concept of free speech and expression before both sides assholes win and we all lose". CP and AI CG created with real CP are totally fair game.. Don't even need to explain why again. The judges in the quoted case explained it well too. But this isn't only about CP or probably even primarily in the end.. As we see with their attempts to rope everything they can possibly think of. Targeting art and drawings and completely non realistic media.

Again. I'm pretty much an absolutist on speech and expression. Anyone who follows me around on news and happenings would know that pretty fucking quick. Don't try to guilt trip me, I don't play stupid moral fagging games on issues of basic freedoms.


EDIT:

Why do pedos always say their disgusting porn is just like video game violence? Video games don't (and can't) teach you how to shoot a gun in the real world, but jerking off to children is still jerking off to children.

Get a new argument.

Why are retards always so incapable of realizing the literal exact same nature of these two fictional scenarios? Just because you stick your fingers in your ears and scream that it's different because.. doesn't make it so.. sorry bud. If you ban one fictional thing because of this absurd logic, then you've just justified banning it all. Door open to retards of all sides. Not forgetting that even Trump has made comments about violent video games.

The drawings still represent a fuckin' child dumbass.
The drawing part is the loophole the law didn't tackle yet in the states.
It their ((safe)) fix
Holy fuck can we move on.
You doth protest too much me thinks.

I don't look at loli but... Holy shit.. if you look at a drawing and instantly think "real person", or look at fiction and think real, then you probably need to be on some kind of list. I've said this for years.. I take it you don't kill or harm people in video games right? And are horrified by fictional bad things? I mean that NPC LITERALLY represents a person!
Yeah, think before you say something.

Don't know about you, but normally people don't play violent games for sexual gradification and if they do they are considered weird asf. And to a certain degree you can justify violence, unlike getting off to an abstract depiction of a child.

Again, what does the specific nature of the content have to do with anything? Fiction is fiction! Banning fiction based on a factually flawed concept is retarded and dangerous no matter what the content is. How hard is that basic concept to understand?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Oh holy shit I didn't even notice.

Still, I think it may be a bit bold to presume he's keeping a close eye on things. He probably doesn't want to deal with this retardation any more than he has to.

He featured the thread. I assume he authorized its reopening, since minutes after it went live, he started laying down the law with the mega retards. Also he's been showing stuff on his Twitter account, specifically XJosh, from the thread. He's fucking aware, even if he doesn't "like" it

 

[Markass the Worst]

@Solid Hyrax claims he was misunderstood.

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Spoiler: context

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/lolicon-shotacon-defenders.199230/post-20845675
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/lolicon-shotacon-defenders.199230/post-20833066
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/lolicon-shotacon-defenders.199230/post-20845846

 

[Gravemind]

["All of this Shit" by this retard]

Well, it certainly doesn't help matters when reports go unaddressed while the retards keep kicking the hornet's nest.

You see what I mean?

@Solid Hyrax claims he was misunderstood.
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Nigger, holy fucking shit.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Thanks, good to be back. It's pointless, still - let's not stoke the fire by arguing with people. Fuck your "concerns with frozen peaches". I've said it once and will say again: people will get the tyrannical governments we deserve. Romans 13, open your fucking Bibles.

Back on topic:

On point, and the most important thing is that that isn't even a very high bar to clear. Back in the day when restrictions on pornography were much more strict than now what the directors of porn films did was that they added some semblance of a plot to the film to claim that said scene was necessary for the work, and most of the time that was more than enough. This law will only affect things that should have been banned long ago

Good.

The fact that there were schools even letting Goblin Slayer be available for school kids to check out is just plain negligent.

Why is this? Is there smut in such anime in the first place? Why let such cartoon be available?

KF has been superior to most journalists for a while now. These people don't even do the bare minimum.

The author of that article said that the offense is a state jail felony and that it carries a minimum of 5 years in prison. That is wrong. The penalty for a state jail felony is 180 days to 2 years in jail. I found this on Google in less than a minute: search "state jail felony texas". He couldn't even be fucked to do that.

Then again, I wouldn't expect any ground breaking journalism from this guy:
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Some people really, really are wasting fucking our oxygen.

If you actually want his answer:

Apparently a study needs millions of samples of child molesters caught with lolicon to prove there's a problem.

Yet when the - ahem - other side does something, they'll find a million of excuses.

You can defend yourself or hunt to feed yourself with a gun.

There's no upside to drawn CP.

Like others have said it: WHY DIE FUCKING HILL. It could be firearms, speaking "freely" at campuses, or even alcohol. Why "masturbate at drawings"? Who knew The United States would die because its population would be so retarded to maintain it?

Yes! Please investigate it! You do not need my permission to post about findings!

This thread is being watched by lolisho fags RIGHT NOW! Whatever findings you have, post it! Make sure to archive before posting and DONT POKE THE COW!

And most specially: no infighting - if someone here begins with "whatabout"-isms: ban from thread.

"The right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Minors" Just like the Founding Fathers intended

No, the care for jerking off, using drugs, having orgies with other men and consuming their faeces. In case any retard types "strawman" - yes it fucking is. I'm tired of seeing people defend lolicon and shotacon as if it must be a right. Deal with it, people who think this is a death or life situation deserve to be mocked.