US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

General Trump Banner.png​

Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • Winner
  • Like
  • Semper Fidelis
Reactions: the aging locust., Hassou Tobi, Based Downie and 145 others
Click to expand...
Chongqing said:
I mean, he's right. Biden had no cognitive ability to know what he's signing, and most certainly didn't write the pardons himself.

This is righteous.
Click to expand...
I don't think any president actually write the pardons themselves. They just tell their legal staff to write X a pardon for crimes Y and Z, then they sign it themselves. If Trump wrote the pardons himself they would be worded VERY differently.

As for Biden's mental faculty, they don't really matter in this case, he could be a potato and sign the pardon with his thumb print and it would be kosher. Dementia or not, the issue is staff going over his head and forging his signature.

DickMain said:
Sure, but, devil's advocate; how do you prove without a doubt he didn't know? As hilarious as this is, it's a question I've been having to ask since the whole autopen debacle came up.
Click to expand...
A smoking gun would be communication between Biden's staffers talking about it.
 
  • Like
  • Agree
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, MongInTheMirror, possibleLurkerMaybePoster and 19 others
Neil said:
The absolute funniest part of all this shit is how none of you are even questioning why Trump isn't prosecuting Biden for supposedly rigging the 2020 election. The guy is still alive and kicking, unpardoned, he's at Trump's every legal whim, yet Trump doesn't seem to want to dole out any punishment towards him.

Weird, huh? He's had access to the government's backend since January 20th, you'd think he'd somehow find evidence of all the fraud, right? Hell, back in 2020 he had access to the government's backend both before and after the election, you'd think he'd have already done it, right?

It's almost like Trump knows he lost fair and square, and there'd be no case to actually fight in court. It's almost like this is bullshit smoke and mirrors to keep Fox News fed and their viewers entertained with news about Trump doing things, doesn't matter if they aren't actually improving material conditions for them in the slightest, as long as he's taking culture war victories, that's all that matters.
Click to expand...

A few months ago i would have said Trump is a boomer that really believes in the honor and dignity of our system by way of things like the peaceful transition of power and new administrations not investigating old ones. Now I'm not so sure. They did drag his name through mud for 9 years, tried every dirty trick in the book to ruin his life and several tricks to even end it.

He may decide enough is enough, Biden is near death and it would tear the country further apart for that it's better to go after crimes that are more easily proven.

Then again, Trump was a big fan of Nixon (they were pen pals and Trump wanted him to live in Trump Tower) and he loves getting revenge so I wouldn't count on him chilling out after everything that's happened.

"It's not revenge he's after; it's a reckoning."
 
  • Agree
  • Like
  • Winner
Reactions: silverstacks, byuuWasTaken, Death of an Ego and 23 others
Useful_Mistake said:
Trump overruled Biden's pardons.
View attachment 7101920
Click to expand...
This is a weird precedent to try and set. Really would just take Biden coming out with a statement saying "yes I did pardon them as I expected Trump to launch politicized investigations into them". Is that the goal then? Hoping for Biden to do a media tour touting how he set to protect people from Trump?
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, Vladislav, Chuckwagon and 5 others
Justin Igger said:
It doesn’t fucking matter. It’s called political capital, Trump got enough wins in a row, he built up his capital, now he’s spending it
Click to expand...
Spending it on fucking what? More culture wars that ultimately lead to nothing changing? Ideally, political capital would be "spent" on trying to achieve campaign goals like lowering the price of groceries, gas and other necessities.
 
  • Dumb
  • Mad at the Internet
  • Agree
Reactions: silverstacks, byuuWasTaken, Flavius Claudius Julianus and 27 others
  • Islamic Content
  • Agree
  • Like
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, Moosebonker, Yamma Damma and 10 others
HTTP Error 404 said:
My theory: Trump wouldn't be crossing this rubicon without some hard evidence that it happened. And if he does have that evidence, all hell is going to break loose. We all know Biden has been potato brained for years, if Trump has evidence that the theater kids running his admin -- or his wife, or his chief of staff, or Kamala, or... -- decided to just do shit without even pretending to involve him, then that firmly places us in bold new clusterfuck territory.
Click to expand...
Please God let this happen. Please let Trump be so turbo pissed off at Biden and his faggot crew that he does this.
This shit is not something that will blow over and be forgotten in just a week when next shiny thing comes by.

Woodrow fucking Wilson was a constitutional crisis of biblical proportions. And people still talk about it a hundred years later.
Please trump, burn Biden and his legacy down.
This shit has potential to be biblical and funny as hell.

Burn down Bidens legacy. Burn down all bridges.
 
  • Like
  • Winner
  • Optimistic
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, Dancing Robot Monkey, possibleLurkerMaybePoster and 37 others
SBG said:
This is a weird precedent to try and set. Really would just take Biden coming out with a statement saying "yes I did pardon them as I expected Trump to launch politicized investigations into them". Is that the goal then? Hoping for Biden to do a media tour touting how he set to protect people from Trump?
Click to expand...
You're looking at things through the lens of how they used to be done. We are no longer in those times. The enemy has to be finished off or else a lot of good people are fucked. The Jan 6th prisoners will look like a slumber party if these people aren't completely removed and ever take power again.

With Bolsheviks, communists, Marxists or whatever else you want to call them it is never over.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Agree
  • Winner
Reactions: silverstacks, byuuWasTaken, Shroom King and 36 others
Neil said:
Spending it on fucking what? More culture wars that ultimately lead to nothing changing? Ideally, political capital would be "spent" on trying to achieve campaign goals like lowering the price of groceries, gas and other necessities.
Click to expand...
He did all that already, nigger, now he’s going after the traitors.

Run, nigger.
 
  • Winner
  • Like
  • Optimistic
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, Shroom King, Kugiröven and 23 others
Neil said:
The pendulum is going to swing like it always has, especially if the economy keeps going the way it's going and people keep losing their jobs/funding as a result of DOGE.
Click to expand...

Uh... Alien Jesus Laptop Murderer, you forget that I voted for Trump specifically because I disdain the bloated federal bureaucracy under the Executive Branch. The bloated executive branch was a problem that became a talking point as early as the 1880s, with it exploding under FDR's tenure. Even past Republicans who ran on platforms of smaller government like Reagan did jack shit to cut it down to size. Clinton "legally" cut jobs from the bureaucracy under the executive branch, but he didn't get to the root of the problem.

As heartless as it sounds: I'm not particularly concerned about career bureaucrats losing their jobs because the gravy train stopped running once and for all. The judiciary's unelected, yet the judiciary serves a vital purpose in keeping other branches of the government in check (though I will admit that power's being put to the test with the current administration). The executive branch was meant to enforce laws that Congress passed, yet it ballooned into an all-encompassing bureaucratic mess that stalls out meaningful progress in the very things those departments were meant to address. It has, in essence, become a fourth branch of government theoretically accountable to the president but in practice, accountable to no one. DOGE is not some new department devised by the president, it's a rebrand of the United States Digital Service that Obama created, and the quirks of its creation are being leveraged by the current president.

We're still in early days of the second Trump administration, so jury's out on whether or not these shocks will manifest into anything long-term. I'm more concerned with tariffs being a double-edged sword, but recent near-shoring efforts by large companies since Trump won in November last year do seem promising. I'm certainly optimistic, though I do have pause for thought. Feel free to mock me or disagree or whatever. It's clear you've made up your mind about how the future will play out.
 
  • Like
  • Winner
  • Agree
Reactions: silverstacks, Herr Flick, byuuWasTaken and 35 others
drammamean said:
You're looking at things through the lens of how they used to be done. We are no longer in those times. The enemy has to be finished off or else a lot of good people are tucked. The Jan 6th prisoners will look like a slumber party if these people aren't completely removed and ever take power again.
Click to expand...
Trying to nullify the pardon by saying Biden wasn't really behind it only works if Biden isn't willing to stand by the pardons he signed off on.

I get wanting to go after these people still, but this is not legally a great way of doing that.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
  • Agree
  • Like
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, Vladislav, AmateurComedicTaxidermist and 11 others
Sicko Hunter said:
You guys remember that weird period when the Hunter Biden shit came out when liberals and leftists online were trying to pretend Hunter was actually really cool? Like him being a toothless crack addict who lived off of his dad's trust fund was based? That shit was gay
Click to expand...
Sure was interesting to see so many "feminists" saying it was cool that he was fucking human trafficked sex slaves and saying how we're just jealous and all of us would be doing it if we could
 
  • Agree
  • Like
  • Winner
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, Death of an Ego, MongInTheMirror and 20 others
  • Thunk-Provoking
  • Like
Reactions: byuuWasTaken, spiritofamermaid, IAmNotAlpharius and 1 other person
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back