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Should be a wild four years.

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I could absolutely see the left arguing that there's no fraud provision in the pardon executive power. And given how fucking retarded the judges have been in their desperate attempts to stop Trump from doing anything, I could absolutely see them making that statement in as much legalese.
That would just mean that anybody could forge the president's signature on a pardon document and pass it off as real and get anyone off of Federal charges if they wanted. After all, your scenario would mean there's no cure for a fraudulent pardon and all pardons by "the president" are valid.

"I, MarvintheParanoidAndroid, on behalf of President Trump, pardon Edward Snowden, totes for realz, pinky swear."
 
My take: the Trump administration is pursuing things they know the public will like that will make the establishment (all of it) look bad when it's inevitably blocked or legally challenged. Populist politics. This will also force the SC to rule on a lot of it which will provide the administration more info on their options going forward.

Look at how low the approval ratings are of the Democrat party right now. Directly related.
 
This was shared, but I think everyone just glossed over it.

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They already admitted to using the Autopen to sign things for Biden. Yes, they "delegated the power" to his staffers. But I would suggest they aren't actually allowed to do that.

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And one of his theater kid fuckup aides was just deciding what to sign, and no one questioned it because they weren't allowed to.

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Literally deciding what the President "would want" without even asking the President.

This came out 3 days ago, and I imagine over the weekend the FBI and SS probably investigated it and found hard evidence.

One of Biden's theater kid fuckup aides was acting as president and signing documents as Biden using the autopen.

That means anything that aide did is fraudulent and invalid.


Remember also that when Biden just randomly endorsed Kamala or Resigned over Twitter or whatever that scandal was (there were a lot, I forget now), it was theorized that it was the Sheboon press secretary doing it because she had control over the twitter account and was a Kamala true believer. (And IIRC, the signature on that was clearly not Biden's.) There's a history of Biden being out of the loop of "President Biden's" decisions, statements, and signatures.


This is pretty much officially a constitutional crisis now. And it's not even 5 AM on the East Coast. Trump dropped this at what, 1 minute after Midnight on Monday morning? Quick, check the Pizza index to see if various NGOs and Political buildings are being swarmed by fedboys and other swamp critters right now.
 
Trump overruled Biden's pardons.
Trump is easily the best president in the history of this galaxy. Really hope he can modify the constitution or smth to run for president again. And again.

At that point he wouldn't need to worry about political rivals or democrat voters. They'd all unironically vanish by suicide or sudden stroke/aneurysm.

And I'm not even a republican.
 
That would just mean that anybody could forge the president's signature on a pardon document and pass it off as real and get anyone off of Federal charges if they wanted. After all, your scenario would mean there's no cure for a fraudulent pardon and all pardons by "the president" are valid.

"I, MarvintheParanoidAndroid, on behalf of President Trump, pardon Edward Snowden, totes for realz, pinky swear."
The Judges have already declared that any judge in the country can overrule the President via black robed fiat and no one can do anything about it, just absolutely because.

"Anyone is President as long as they can copy/paste his signature" or rather "The President is an administration and thus his administration can sign on the President's behalf" is not that far of a stretch from that. Not in clown world.
 
What if, hypothetically, we had a limbless president? Or Michael J. Fox becomes president? Traditionally, if someone cannot sign something, an aide can sign on their behalf using a power of attorney or a special delegation of authority. So, technically, someone could sign for Biden, but there would have to be a paper trail, otherwise it wouldn’t count. It’s sort of a catch-22. They can’t use that excuse now because the fail-safe is designed to preclude post-hoc presumption of authority.
You can make the argument that a fingerprint fulfills the function of a signature. So if a president is unable to sign, they could autopen and then stamp their thumb on the document as a way to say they are present and endorse the signature. But if your president is at a point they can't sign anything, then you should get a new president.
 
But if your president is at a point they can't sign anything, then you should get a new president.
Someone could have a temporary injury that stops them from signing things for a while. Like if their dominant arm/wrist/hand got broken in a place where their fingers and thumb had to be immobilised for 6 weeks. But you'd probably want to ensure that everything they signed in whatever way they did, was witnessed, preferably on camera, and it was noted on the document that it was signed by autopen/finger print and who the official witnesses were.
 
Trying to “unpardon” someone is insane, even by Trump standards.

Also note: if the Supreme Court allows Trump to do this, then the next Democrat president can unpardon ALL January 6th rioters and traitors.
If people who were pardoned for crimes sure. If only the "I didn't do a crime but pardon me anyway!" people were nullified then nah. That's a good thing too because "prepardoning" is BS.

Also, anyone complaining about right wring grifters and not the grifting Al Sharptons and their feminist counterparts who gave them 5 decades of content or Democrats themselves for enabling their nonsense to become mainstream is a total retarded faggot who should kill themselves.
 
Look you faggots, Trump is doing this, get it in your skulls. Tomorrow Bondi is going to start detaining every fucking culprit still in the US, execute extraordinary rendition on those who aren’t, and fucking murder any idiot dumb enough to resist. That includes all the Democrat morons, the press, the fucking ACLU, and every retarded judge that makes even a squeak. Strap in, cook some popcorn, and enjoy the fucking ride because none of us are in control of this fucking pain train!
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All they had to do was let Trump play golf with Abe, but instead they pushed the man too far.
 
You can make the argument that a fingerprint fulfills the function of a signature. So if a president is unable to sign, they could autopen and then stamp their thumb on the document as a way to say they are present and endorse the signature. But if your president is at a point they can't sign anything, then you should get a new president.
Isn't this literally the point of the Vice President's position as well as the 25th Amendment? If the President is incapacitated -- for example, if he's undergoing surgery -- then the Vice President takes control until he's available again.



As an aside, the price shock finally hit Costco in the PNW. Chicken prices per pound have doubled in the past two weeks, from $3.50/lb to $7.01/lb, and I apparently just barely missed a run on the store as breasts, thinly sliced breasts, bone-in breasts, bone-in thighs, etc etc, are all completely gone. Only thing left is boneless thighs: Just shy of $40 for a pack of about 5.5 pounds. Whole chickens are $1.74/lb, however, so it might be time to learn how to butcher my own chicken. Thank god zoomers and millenials don't know about lentils, or I'd be screwed. (Edit: Lentils appear to have increased too, but I can't tell if $2.29 for a pound of lentils is a lot higher than the last time I bought any. I seem to remember it was $1ish when I did.)

Other vittles: Ground Beef is $6 a pound. Beef is $7 to $15 a pound. Pork remains sane, $2.68 to $5 a pound depending on cut.
 
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