On the other hand, if they try to get Biden to deny it, what are the odds that he remembers even half of what he actually did sign? And trying to get him to subtly lie about things that never happened in a way that's consistent with the facts?
Can someone explain to me how he can do this from a legal standpoint? Not just he is HMFIC but what the actual process is behind it? I thought the point of a pardon is that it does exactly what it says and you're out scot free.
...do you think that a president is required to manually write his name for it to be legal?
Shit, this would actually be a genius move. Ruin the reputation of the Democrats while making Vance appealing to the younger demographic, and you've got another 4-8 years of Republican rule after Trump's out of office.
The DOJ can file indictments and let the courts figure it out. They'll eventually rule that pardons are absolute but not before the facts and evidence are out there everywhere. It'll probably play out for a year or more right into the mid-terms.
He chooses not to recognize the putative pardons. Then when charges are filed, there will be court orders and appeals and we'll find out what the Supreme Court thinks.
Ahh ok, that makes sense, yeah it's for stopping prosecution but the system still works the way it does up until that point. Thanks mate.
Ah yeah didn't see this till later.
More importantly, if he's being brought before congress to explain this, it wouldn't be the kid gloves treatment from friendly media allies with the responses heavily edited to make him look good. It would be, at least in theory, a hostile situation, live, broadcast to the world. The Democrats would have to go hell for leather to abuse the process to prevent anyone right of Mao from getting a single fucking word in with Biden. There's no way, at all, that they let him do it.
Based but this sets a REALLY bad precedent if a Democrat wins the next election.
As has been pointed out in the thread many times by now, Trump isn't allowing autopen use for anything touching on the powers of the President, and he's signing such documents in front of witnesses, often on camera. He's covering his ass AND forcing future presidents to match this level of transparency, all while making Biden look like garbage.
What in the flying fuck...?! I really wonder if Joe Biden himself was the one who told him this because it sure fucking sounds like it was.
Realistically it might be a challenge and look at the pardon process.
I absolutely don't give a shit I and many others in Europe are grateful that he ended the USA-AIDS programme that shoved down our throats globohomo bs. He also keeps the lulz going and provides endless tears of the privileged insufferable cunts.
Even if he realizes it happens, he can't retroactively agree to it. He has to direct his staff to use the Autopen. (And even that is bullshit. We wouldn't accept a copy/paste signature as a permanent thing. Autopen signatures should be temporary and null and void if not manually signed when the President can actually sign the document.)
