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Should be a wild four years.

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There is nothing they can do they already didn't try and do during the last 4 years. They were raiding Trump supporters homes at 6 am and killing them, Importing millions of violent criminal illegals on purpose along with allowing tens of millions more in via open border and bringing in infinite indians/muslim/haitians and dumping bigger amounts into small towns then their local population, burning down cities due to nigger worship, all of the kung flu bullshit and then everything done against Trump in the courts etc there are 1000 other insane things done as well.
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All I know is very few major news outlets are talking about Trump trying to invalidate Biden's pardons. All the top stories are about how the president is big evil for some detention center violations.
It might get people thinking a bit too hard about if Biden was fit for president and if anything he did was valid if they present El Naranja bringing up the new meme that Biden was drooling into a bowl of ice cream while some faggot zoomer staffer did things for him.

I don't get what's so confusing about it.

Accusation: A lot of executive material was auto-penned outside of Biden's personal agency as President of the United States. With some bonus anecdotal backing that's slipped into the public eye via Mike Johnson, supporting the accusation's validity from an outsider's perspective.

Response to Accusation: THINK OF THE NEGATIVE PRECEDENT! Making sure pardons were actually given by the President and not SOMEONE ELSE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT?! Someone who may have acted WITHOUT ORDERS TO DO SO!? What if the roles were reversed, what if it's used against us!?

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Don't keep braindead vegetables in office then, from any party or political affiliation.
 
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You clearly weren't paying attention if you think he can strong together a sentence, much less a coherent insult
This is a translation from his native language of course to the average English speaker it would be barely understandable. But we can also use common sense to determine that he would have approved all those pardons while in office due to his administrations behavior during the entire term
 
"As a current Trump voter", I have a question for all of the "as a former Trump voters" that keep crawling out of the woodwork.

Would you say you were stupid and wrong then? If so, could you pinpoint the exact moment when you became not stupid and wrong?
"Former Trump Voters" who are not gonna lie are either posting an ironic copypasta, or are dem shills posting a variation on the copypasta like they have been for decades using the same script.
 
Can someone explain who this Jackson hinkle guy is? He looks like nick fuentes gayer clone.
American grifter who shills for third world countries, Russia, and China. Pretty clearly a foreign agent. He's been a guest of the Russian government and delivered a talk to the Houthi. No idea how he hasn't been FARAed yet.
 
The pardons becoming illegitimate is huge but the bigger concern is that everything that Biden "signed" that wasn't done in front of a crowded room of cameras is suspect and potentially voided, even ignoring the argument that he was not mentally fit to sign any documents. Considering how much the dementia patient was hidden from the public, this is a colossal amount of stuff now sitting on questionable standing. Was the nomination for his Supreme Court justice done by him or by a staffer?
 
You're not allowed to reverse a presidential pardon lmao.
Read up on Ulysses S. Grant revoking a pardon from King Andrews the First. However a pardon has to be completed before it can be irreversible. There was also George Bush doing the same thing, but it was not delivered and therefore not completed. He also had a stupid reason to reverse the pardon. Issac's dad donated $30000 to the Republican party.
 
This is really something else, 10 years ago it was all about how the blue states would be growing and the red states going more purple.

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The most politically destructive book of the 21st Century was The Permanent Democratic Majority by John Judis and Ruy Texeira. It was published in 2002 and promulgated the idea that if demographic trends continued as their thesis predicted that they would, keyword thesis, then the Democrats would have a durable electoral majority for the next forty years at a minimum. This proposition became an article of faith among Democrats who were either clued in or in a position to actually wield power. Fuck, the idea was originally popularized by James Carville shortly after Obama took office.

The problem is that they kept running with the idea long after Judis and Teixeira withdrew their hypothesis, and were promulgating it until very recently. It created a situation where democrats were convinced that they were perpetually fifteen minutes from their final victory and republicans were convinced that they were perpetually fifteen minutes from their final defeat. This seemed to ripple out into the electorate causing both parties to alter their behavior as the republicans tried novel strategies and the democrats behaved like kings-in-waiting. This was on full display in 2014 when Harry Reid abolished the filibuster for judicial nominees. Mitch McConnell stood up on the floor of the senate and told him that it was a terrible idea and that as soon as his opponents were returned to power that it would be used against them... and it was. The republicans retook the senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016. Trump and McConnell then installed three supreme court justices and innumerable lower court judges in a move that continues to bear political fruit for the republicans.

So why would anyone do this? This incredibly short-sighted move by someone seemingly incapable of thinking even minutes into the future? Well, it's the kind of move you make if you're absolutely certain that you will never be out of power again and when you have that mindset, there is no reason to ever try to understand or seek compromise with your opponents despite the both of each being one half of the mainstream of American politics. So, they made themselves as unlikeable as possible for the sake of exercising as much short-term power as possible because Very Smart People(TM) told them that they'd never lose again.

The damage to the democrats might not be as severe as it is right now if Blue cities and states were glittering, prosperous utopias where everyone is multi-racial and gay but they aren't and they're not getting better. So, all that they're left with is a shallow bench populated by shrieking, spiteful mutants who have given up on any pretense of trying to convince people that their way is the right way. You can make many criticisms of Donald Trump, but "He does not have a positive vision of the future." is not among them.
 
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Looking through the 50 pages since I went to sleep it's the usual "da pendulum will swing back!!!" shit god that is the most cringe shit.

There is nothing they can do they already didn't try and do during the last 4 years. They were raiding Trump supporters homes at 6 am and killing them, Importing millions of violent criminal illegals on purpose along with allowing tens of millions more in via open border and bringing in infinite indians/muslim/haitians and dumping bigger amounts into small towns then their local population, burning down cities due to nigger worship, all of the kung flu bullshit and then everything done against Trump in the courts etc there are 1000 other insane things done as well.

There is nowhere for the pendulum to swing back to, they already went as far as you can go without just mass killing people who support a different political party then you and they have openly begged for that to happen for almost a decade now.

Average liberal: "Fucking Nazis we want you all dead and your family dead" *firebombs a tesla*
Retard: "Woah we better go easy while we have power guys what would they do to us if they were in power?"
The pendulum swinging back never crossed leftist minds. Not once. They thought they were going to get their Thousand Year Reich. Now that they're losing power, they're doing everything they can to pretend they never did anything illegal in the first place. It's not me who's the problem, it's you for trying to do something about it! First they bitched about Musk, after sucking Fauci's cock for years on end, now it's judges crying fowl, trying to go over the President's head when the last admin picked and chose which laws to actually enforce. Pardons being forged is only one of part of the issue here.
 
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This just means that the next president will realize he can overturn Trump's pardons, and Ross Ulbricht will be in jail again.
Doesn't seem the same since all of Bidens pardons were pre-emptive.
i.e. he pardoned a bunch of people who hadn't even been charged with crimes (fauci).
I mean I guess Hunter Biden sort of was charged with some sort of gun crime.
But he was never charged for the foreign shit.
 
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