US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[George Lucas]

Pardon me, but that's complete horseshit. It's been common practice to sign bills this way since Obama.
It's been law and common practice in other agencies since George W. Bush.
And there is no legal distinction between plotters and digital signatures.

That's not an electronic signature retard. Autopenning a signature an electronic signature are completely different things.

 

[Soycast Guy]

reversing pardons doesnt mean anything if he doesnt actually do anything afterwards but it sure makes a great headline and creates the illusion that somethings going to happen. how many times can you fall for it? like i said, literal retards.

He just fucking reversed the pardons you fucking TikTok brained zoomer. Do you think arrests happen in the same fucking day?

Erotica aside, this book is poorly written. It sounds like it was written by someone mentally scared by high school english. You could probably find better written erotica. Online, and for free to boot.

It’s way too descriptive which is incredibly jarring to listen to.

 

[Pickman's Modeling Agency]

Does this mean that a Dem president can un-pardon Republican presidential pardons?

 

[Margo Martindale]

Houthis have just threatened to fire on the USS Truman:

Houthi Official: Attacks on Sanaa Now Will Be Met With Attacks on the Truman Later, a Clear Equation- One Plus One Equals Two
Houthi Senior Political Official: Greater Yemen Has the Strength and Ability to Respond to America's Aggression, and We Have Not Hesitated to Do So. We Have Many Options at Our Disposal
America Will Face Doom and Destruction as the War Remains Open, This is the Battle of the Sacred Victory, the Sacred Jihad, a Test of Endurance
Houthi Senior Political Official: Yemen is the Graveyard of Invaders, No Country Attacks It Without Collapsing and Falling
Houthi Senior Political Official: Trump's Satanic Hopes Will End...his American Arrogance Will Be Broken
Houthi Senior Political Official: the Unipolarity of the World Will End....many Surprises Are Coming, We Will Turn the Tables on America

Please Trump drop a MOAB on them and record the explosion

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

But we all know that Biden is a drooling corpse who was never in power. The common man already knows this, as much as the Dems try to gaslight you. This isn't breaking news—the guy literally had to drop out of the race because of this. We can keep talking about it but this changes nothing. The press isn't suddenly going to admit that Biden was never in power either.

The autopen situation is fucked and I'm not claiming that Biden is a good boy, but Trump is playing with fire because he's literally going after the Constitution this time. Of course, the Founding Fathers wouldn't have known that 250 years later a crooked man and his staff would use an automatic pen to sign documents, but there's no legal framework for this. As others have pointed out, Trump can't just say that he can void official acts and carry on. There needs to be an actual interpretation of the pardon powers that I'm sure the SCOTUS, as cucked as they are, won't touch.

So again, how is this 4D chess if nothing really changes? People aren't going to suddenly revolt in the streets because Biden was illegitimate, and Dems are already forced to grin and pretend that Biden was a good president. Even the best outcome of all of this would be a retarded SCOTUS decision where they claim that everything an admin does, even if the president is braindead, is valid because they were vested in that authority.

On the other hand, if Trump continues to push this it will only be regarded as a Q Anon-tier conspiracy theory and as much you like Trump, he has cowish tendencies, so he'll look like a retard. Or are you just going to say Trump is pretending to be retarded for some long-term, fuzzy goal?

I’d argue Trump is more arguing from the angle that Biden was deemed mentally deficient to stand trial prior to his pardons. That’s the larger issue and an issue of a Constitutional Crisis of “why the fuck do allow crippled fuck No. 3 in power”.

It’s the elephant in the room that no one, but Trump wants to address. Joe Biden could not carry out his duties, but no one invoked the 25th. It’s another Woodrow Wilson situation, but it wasn’t kept secret. Trump is effectively challenging the idea that Edith Wilson or whoever can play Weekend at Bernie’s to wield presidential power.

@Useful_Mistake kind of is more of an expert or at least more educated, but Trump, if he’s challenging that it’s an Edith Wilson deal, is pointing out that Biden could not perform his duties. The autopen was used to fraudulently invoke executive powers and authority amongst a horde of bad actors.
Basically they should have invoked the 25th and they didn’t. Trump actually does have a point in that they did say that Biden was unable to stand trial due to poor memory. That was with a friendly special counsel who didn’t outright say it.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Very bold words from the Houthis. They have already tried and failed to retaliate against the Truman at least two times as of late.

Houthi Official: The Report That Three Aircraft Carriers Are Coming Is Psychological Warfare
Houthi Official: America Must Comply With Yemeni Demands In Order To Get Out Of Hell

they're high on khat lmao

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Pretty sure they don't use the old timey telephonic system they used to have. They use the more modern ESIGN backed digital system probably.

The original autopens were signature duplicators. A person had to operate one of the pens to multiply his signature.

And that may be harder to prove. It effectively makes the president's signature a rubber stamp. There's not much you can do about it other than dissolve the power of the executive.

Oh really? Someone opposed to annulling fraudulent pardons says there is only a single remedy? Almost like an obstructionist would.

I really doubt Trumps never not signed documents digitally, military orders, or stimulus checks, his own taxes.

Not at issue.

Pardon me, but that's complete horseshit. It's been common practice to sign bills this way since Obama.

Obama is your go-to for moral standards? 2009 is your ancient historical precedent? Give me a break.

It's been law and common practice in other agencies since George W. Bush.
And there is no legal distinction between plotters and digital signatures.

An armchair Constitutional lawyer and expert. "Naysayer says nay, more at eleven."

 

[Endless Torment]

It reminded me of a kindergarten work sheet. But then why does the FBI need a kindergarten work sheet? Did they hire people who have the maturity and social awareness of children?

Probably, because how else would the Feds be able to convincingly infiltrate 4chan and discords?

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I'm surprised at how none of the MSM is talking about this pardon thingie

Not a one has even mentioned it in passing. Maybe ignoring it will make it go away?

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

French philosopher Joseph de Maistre said that a nation has the government it deserves.

If that's true then we can also surmise that the parents get the kid they deserve.
So the question is why did your parents spawn such a massive faggot?

 

[DickMain]

Houthi Official: The Report That Three Aircraft Carriers Are Coming Is Psychological Warfare

"America Will Face Doom and Destruction as the War Remains Open, This is the Battle of the Sacred Victory, the Sacred Jihad, a Test of Endurance. Yemen is the Graveyard of Invaders, No Country Attacks It Without Collapsing and Falling. Trump's Satanic Hopes Will End...his American Arrogance Will Be Broken. The Unipolarity of the World Will End....many Surprises Are Coming, We Will Turn the Tables on America."

>America pulls up

"Noooo please that's too scary"

Just glass them from shore and leave. Teach them to never open their mouths again.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

Houthi Official: The Report That Three Aircraft Carriers Are Coming Is Psychological Warfare
Houthi Official: America Must Comply With Yemeni Demands In Order To Get Out Of Hell

they're high on khat lmao

Its more like they know their time is coming at an end and are trying so desperately to act tough.

 

[harmacist]

He just fucking reversed the pardons you fucking TikTok brained zoomer. Do you think arrests happen in the same fucking day?

It’s way too descriptive which is incredibly jarring to listen to.

its the same formula over and over and over again. take the first step, never follow through, media cycle changes, everyone talks about the new muh trump quote hes made that day and you conveniently forget about it. how many fucking times does it have to happen before you realize its all bullshit? jesus christ literally fucking retarded.

 

[George Lucas]

I thought that in MAGA america, having a PFP such as yours would put you on a FBI watchlist. Guess I am wrong.

Yes you would be wrong because in this country we have freedom of speech unlike whatever shithole Europoor backwater roadside tavern you're currently dwelling in.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

So American Dad was right.

It usually is.

 

[marvlouslie]

Trump overruled Biden's pardons.
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Good.

 

[Soycast Guy]

its the same formula over and over and over again. take the first step, never follow through, media cycle changes, everyone talks about the new muh trump quote hes made that day and you conveniently forget about it. how many fucking times does it have to happen before you realize its all bullshit? jesus christ literally fucking retarded.

I don’t know, chud. Would you like to name the times where that formula has applied?

 

[DickMain]

Its more like they know their time is coming at an end and are trying so desperately to act tough.

In today's geopolitical landscape it's nice to have some retard loud, obnoxious, and ineffectual enough that nobody on the planet (even their sole 'defender' in Iran) is going to complain when we pull up to turn them into a parking lot. Even North Korea has enough teeth on them to where we weren't doing that when they'd mouth off. And the Houthis see themselves as if they're even remotely in the same league.

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

Does this mean that a Dem president can un-pardon Republican presidential pardons?

If said republican is dumb enough to let staffers use his autosign unattended, yes.
Something tells me that Trump's decision to do his signings live on TV in front of an audience was guided by more than just his natural showmanship. I think he's been meticulously planning this maneuver since the rumors started during the Biden Administration.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Does this mean that a Dem president can un-pardon Republican presidential pardons?

Only if the Republican president is a dementia-adddled potato being puppeteered by the deep state and totally unaware of what is going on around him.