The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

[Tinnitus]

Spoiler: Fireflies and the cure

It's not even the questionable "science" they've been using, but the fact Ellie was clearly not the first immune person they've gotten their hands on and killed with nothing to show for it.

Also, why would anyone sane trust the Fireflies when it's made obvious that all their attempts at finding a cure have failed, their "scientists" are a bunch of retards (one died after getting bitten by an infected monkey he released for no good reason), and that they're ruined a whole safe zone with their Marxist agitprop and turned it into a den of cannibal bandits.

Is Joel supposed to let these clowns kill Ellie on the off chance they can figure something out after years of failure?

Only "media literacy" experts would argue that massacring the Fireflies down to the last man was not the right choice. In the first game, all they seem to do is make things worse for everyone involved, with no clear justification other than "the government is mean".

The games plot hinged on Joel being willing to deliver Ellie to them after
a. getting his guns stolen from them
b. Ellie explaining her immunity after her infection was revealed
c. a dying Tess making him promise to go through
d. Tommy knowing where they are

After getting Ellie, Marlene still chose to keep Joel alive instead of killing him like a Firefly suggested and then told him "she's gonna die via our doctors"

The whole part about Joel not being able to defend Ellie from raiders, pack of clickers and rapists falls flat because the entire game the Fireflies didn't help out when those scenarios happened.

She backstabbed Joel twice and the part about telling him what's gonna happen to Ellie in surgery clearly is just her trying to absolve herself from guilt.

 

[ButterflyBarbie]

I made a spinoff thread for Intergalactic.

 

[Ambidextype]

I can't understand why gamers in general overrated Last of Us back when it was released. I always argued the game felt like nothing special even the story was typical survival trapped in zombie-infested land yet they kept bleating about the relatable characters when there was already Telltale's Walking Dead filling the void.

 

[ButterflyBarbie]

Druckmann says there might not be a TLOU3, I wonder if some fans will realize we'll never see a proper ending/cure for the fungus and the series is doomed to end as a cliffhanger no matter what. It might have been better if Ellie died in the first game and the whole thing was about necessary sacrifice. It would have been more shocking and poignant for sure.

 

[Coldgrip]

It might have been better if Ellie died in the first game and the whole thing was about necessary sacrifice. It would have been more shocking and poignant for sure.

No, I think it ended the way it should of. The first game anyways. The second game should of had something where Elly or Joel mops up the remaining Fireflies.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

If I were in charge of the series, a Last of Us 2 wouldn't have even focused on Joel and Ellie due to the way the first game ended, but would instead have been another story focusing on a different individual or group trying to survive in the apocalypse. Maybe we get cameos with two wandering drifters passing by the new protagonists or some shit, but other than that they don't appear. If the second game did that, then there would be a potential format where you wouldn't need to focus on Joel and Ellie, but they instead painted themselves into a corner and are left with nothing for a third game. Which is a good thing, but like I said, I suspect that someone at Sony will try to scrape the bottom of the barrel for something.

Fun fact: part 2 wasn't gonna have Joel and Ellie initially. They ended up thrown in because of brand recognition.

 

[The handsome tard]

you made me check his wiki and this is crazy, i assumed Neil was one of these guys that started at the company and worked his way up, this nigga used jew connections to get an internship right near the end of Jak3 and was only responsible for the menu screen for JakX

And yet they will still act like jews arent working in the industry on Easy mode.

Cuck boy is now insinuating the franchise may be done, after years of flip flopping on it. Either he's lying or someone recently came in and put the kibosh on it.

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Well, Druckmann kind of got what he wanted out of TLoU, to be his entry into hollywood. He really always did want TLoU to be a movie or TV show and the bastard got his wish. It took him abusing the system and backstabbing many backs but he did "win" but now he probably to focus on the TV show (and who knows where else to go) so games are hardly his priority now.

Nvm that altho sony will deny it, Part 2 really undersold given how huge the budget must have been, a lot of the numbers had been cooked so its not clear what the real estimates are. They might not be in a hurry to dump a truck load of money on another Part that will have a lot of bad blood working against since the veterans will surely not buy it after what happened.

Any way you look at it, Sony is "winning" (not really but...) by doing nothing so they believe its safer to maybe bet on a new IP, somehow thinking that the bad blood wont carry over to that.

But who knows, Druckmann did said once that a Part 2 was a "50/50" sort of thing and we still got it. In the end, all we can do is wait and see.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Cuck boy is now insinuating the franchise may be done, after years of flip flopping on it. Either he's lying or someone recently came in and put the kibosh on it.

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Its simple, since HBO wants 4 seasons he can just make TLOU3 and TLOU4 into TV seasons

 

[regalterry]

It would have been more shocking and poignant for sure.

I thought TLOU1's ending was satisfactory. It didn't really leave any unresolved plot hooks, beyond Ellie's immunity and the ultimate fate of humanity, but those are beyond the scope of the story the game was trying to tell.

Joel's character arc was complete, he was able to find redemption for failing to protect his first daughter by saving Ellie, who also gives his life a new purpose.

As for Ellie, she got to explore the world, grow up as a character and realize what matters in life.

Both protagonists are getting as happy of an ending as you could hope to achieve in the post-apocalypse.

Everything beyond that is fanfiction by a spiteful, greasy kike.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

It's really funny they keep dragging Kiryu back because almost every single new protagonist gets a positive reception

as it stands they really could have done a single game for every other protag from 4 and 5 and they'd still do sales.

all they seem to do is make things worse for everyone involved, with no clear justification

"You didn't notice the tattoo on their arm goyim? that means you have to give them a free pass to do whatever. you sound like hitler saying we should stop people that just make things worse for everyone"

I can't understand why gamers in general overrated Last of Us back when it was released. I always argued the game felt like nothing special even the story was typical survival trapped in zombie-infested land yet they kept bleating about the relatable characters when there was already Telltale's Walking Dead filling the void.

it was when "videogames are art just like movies!" was at its peak and right before Gamergate started a war. I feel like that goodfellas scene where he talks about all the old gangstas, but it really was like paradise and people genuinely didn't see the logical conclusions of embracing "movie games" like TLOU, plus there were enough gamers who were hitting middle age and could identify with Joel that it got a lot of praise. it was at the tail end of the 360 era when it seems every game that came out was on an entirely different level of maturity and gameplay and graphics than the start of the generation. Also consider video game journo collusion, every video game critic was praising the game and trying to sell the idea of "video games are art" because it would make themselves look less pathetic and have way more prestige if people started treating them as such. I suspect a lot of games that people consider "overrated" now are because of that. its why easy gameplay titles like TLOU and Spec ops:The Line and all the telltale games which are all about the story got so much praise. TLOU being a third person action adventure also meant there were tons more "normies" playing it vs some episodic game based on 90s adventure games.

 

[regalterry]

You didn't notice the tattoo on their arm goyim? that means you have to give them a free pass to do whatever. you sound like hitler saying we should stop people that just make things worse for everyone

I might start asking funny questions, like why do all the tattoos look different, or why the numbering doesn't seem to follow any kind of structured logic, or how the maximum numbers don't seem to make much sense.

 

[The handsome tard]

He may be done with it.
Sony, on the other hand, most likely isn't. I fully expect them to toss the series to some other crew of dipshits. Who knows, they might be able to write something better than Druckmann, but I doubt it considering current year Sony.

I honestly doubt Cuckmann would ever allow anyone else but his jewish bearded self to ever touch TLoU if he can help it

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This game is destined to be a Dragon's Age Veilguard level disaster, if not worse. At least you could say that D.A had a established fanbase to parasite from, this not only is a new IP but its coming from a company that has burned a lot of bridges with its fans, even hardcore ones, through TLoU Part 2. Gamers arent normies (for the most part) they dont fucking forgive and forget that easily

I havent seen much excitement over this, only mockery over the butt ugly "female" lead.

But then again, does it matter? Sony is not shutting down Naughty Dog since they practically have no other major studios as they too burned a lot of bridges in the last few years. So this game being a flop will likely not involve many consequences, if any.

If I were in charge of the series, a Last of Us 2 wouldn't have even focused on Joel and Ellie due to the way the first game ended, but would instead have been another story focusing on a different individual or group trying to survive in the apocalypse. Maybe we get cameos with two wandering drifters passing by the new protagonists or some shit, but other than that they don't appear. If the second game did that, then there would be a potential format where you wouldn't need to focus on Joel and Ellie, but they instead painted themselves into a corner and are left with nothing for a third game. Which is a good thing, but like I said, I suspect that someone at Sony will try to scrape the bottom of the barrel for something.

I always said that if there is a Part 3, it will mostly be centered on Abby with Ellie maybe having a lesser presence if any.

Im not saying because this is what I would want or even recommend them doing (Part 2 as a whole was a catastrophic bad idea that Im still shocked no one with authority shot down). Im just saying because knowing N.D and Cuckmann's track record, alongside with the culture of "Fuck what consumers/fans want" that somehow became a thing, they will do it just because they can and they know they can get away with it through the wonders of Sony and DEI funding.

Like a Dragon is the best selling Yakuza game by quite a large margin.
Ichiban had a really good reception as a new protagonist, the problem is they've pretty much done all they can with him and his crew now too

There is a beauty in knowing when to let go of certain characters (either having them die off or give them a satisfying conclusion) and explore new ones. It can be mishandled and I dont think we lack examples of that but when done well, it can expand the universe's casting and make us more invested in it.

Its something TWD unironically handles better than TLoU, they know that following different perspectives is a must in this sort of setting. If you keep following a character beyond the conclusion of their story, there is a big chance you can ruin said good conclusion and be left with a Part 2 situation where said character is ruined in the eyes of the audience.

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

Its simple, since HBO wants 4 seasons he can just make TLOU3 and TLOU4 into TV seasons

Great. We don’t have to wait 3-5 years for his slop but instead get it every two years.

Wonder what they will do with season 3 and 4 once Pedro is killed off by Abby.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Who’s a better adopted dad
Joel
Or Lee

 

[Tinnitus]

Who’s a better adopted dad
Joel
Or Lee

Lee since he didn't die like a little bitch in front of his adopted daughter.

 

[The handsome tard]

Who’s a better adopted dad
Joel
Or Lee

Lee, weakened by a bite and with possibly one arm mind you, literally butchered his way through a walker herd to reach Clem. And then he possibly chokes her kidnapper with ONE arm.

Lee's time with Clem may not have been as long as Joel's with Ellie but he did leave a bigger impact and more positive memory that he is remembered fondly almost a decade later.

And since we are on the topic



Clem raised an orphaned baby just because it was the right thing to do, since she was a kid herself, with all the struggles that brings. Ellie couldnt be bothered to have a kid to possibly share her immunity with the world despite it being the thing that would "give her life meaning", proving her sexuality was more important and that she is a narcissistic hypocrite.

I wonder how Neil would respond if a writer/dev working under him said something like “This scene was inspired by the hatred I felt towards BLM after rioters burned down the storefronts of people my family knew for decades” or “When I designed these enemies I was channeling my anger at illegal immigrants after the murder of Mollie Tibbetts”. I’m sure he’d be very understanding!

Btw I have a solution to Neil’s Jew anxieties: Take a hike, kike. Leave for your precious Pissrael already and stop bothering the rest of us about it.

I support that decision and maybe he might poetically end up in one of those execution videos that "angered him" into making Part 2 the way it was.

It would prove God does have a sense of humor (and hatred for Jews)

As for what's gonna happen to tlou, sony has let a ton of more profitable franchises rot or get defaced.

I mean, yes and no, Sony either shows a LOT of favoritism towards you or gives you not fucks at all. Dont get me started on how even the franchises they show favoritism towards are starting to show woke signs (if they havent already). Nvm that many would rather want their franchises to stay dead.

For years I wanted a new Infamous game, possibly one that brings Cole back (either a remake or soft reboot) but after...everything in the last decade, do I really want that? Maybe its best to appreciate the amazing conclusion that Infamous 2 was and let things be. God knows I wouldnt want to see what woke conduits they would bring to the table.
Same goes for Sly Cooper and Killzone. It would be bitching to get a new entry but can you really trust modern devs (which in Sly's case, will def. be yiffin woke furries and in Killzone's case, you know that if they didnt dare to portray the nazi expy Helghast empire in any positive light, despite the lore mostly leaning on them just defending their home and honor, then you know they will just make them even more comically evil like the nazis in Wolfenstein the new colossus)

The devs that made these great games either retired or moved on to other companies.

The problem is beyond Naughty Dog, its within Sony.

Druckmann says there might not be a TLOU3, I wonder if some fans will realize we'll never see a proper ending/cure for the fungus and the series is doomed to end as a cliffhanger no matter what. It might have been better if Ellie died in the first game and the whole thing was about necessary sacrifice. It would have been more shocking and poignant for sure.

Or just see Part 2 for "official" fanfiction that it is and move on. You might as well headcanon strictly just the very original vanilla game as all that there is, not even count that kid lesbian romance DLC.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Lee was also one of the best Black characters ever written. In that it’s easy to completely forget he’s Black because he’s just a normal chill dude.

 

[SSJ4Goku]

the tv show has to be the most miss casted thing I have ever seen, they didnt even try which is gonna be so funny when they get to the fighting with abby scenes.

 

[Raiken]

the entire idea that humans are doomed without the cure is stupid.
just abandon the citys for a while.
have a few harsh winters where the infected outside freeze to death(the entire plot of infected staying mobile in the freezing cold in part 2 is bullshit)
don't be retards and try to invade other camps.

sure, you will never fully get rid of all of the infected/fungus, but now that humans know how it spreads

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Lee was also one of the best Black characters ever written. In that it’s easy to completely forget he’s Black because he’s just a normal chill dude.

somebody hasnt done a scumbag playthrough