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I'm not positive that would be a good thing. Just because the Republicans start using the liberals illegal tactics the liberals aren't going to suddenly go "oh shit I guess that was a law for a reason". Instead they will treat that as justification for their illegal tactics and double down, while simultaneously blaming the Republicans for the illegal tactics. An eye for an eye and the world goes blind and all that. The Republicans have been pretty lax on calling our liberal bullshit but refusing to stoop that low is paying off - the Democrat party has fallen to communism and insanity while the Republicans are going to be in power for quite some time.

It's easy to lose faith in the rules when one side gets to trod all over them, but the rules exist for a reason and the liberals chickens will come home to roost. Right now the Democrats have basically gaurenteed that they will lose badly in the midterms, possibly enough that they are no longer viable as a party. And the activist judges they installed have outer themselves as insane and will likely be impeached over the next year or two.
The problem is the liberals are already breaking the rules and show no sign of stopping. If you and another dude agree to fight with no weapons, but he brings a gun every time and wins every confrontation, how many times do you keep showing up before you bring a gun as well? It's not an "eye for an eye leaves the world blind" situation, it's a "a well-armed society is a peaceful society" situation. Either Republicans start fighting at the same level or they're going to keep losing.
 
The new talking point from the left seems to be comparing destroying Teslas with January 6th, with a smug "how are you defending one but condemning the other?"

It's easy, one was 2 hours of respecting the velvet rope, the other is continuing destruction of property across multiple locations and with multiple victims.

I pray for the day a Tesla owner stays in his car to ambush a vandal and they blow their head off with a shotgun. Just make sure to do it in a red county the first couple of times to set precedent.
No. They're right. We should probably have their homes raided by SWAT and hold the vandals in isolation cells for years without trial. And have the right leaning media hyperventilate about the vandal spree as another Pearl Harbor or 9/11 attack for a few years. "MARCH 2025... NEVER AGAIN!!!" or some histrionic shit like that.
 
No. They're right. We should probably have their homes raided by SWAT and hold the vandals in isolation cells for years without trial. And have the right leaning media hyperventilate about the vandal spree as another Pearl Harbor or 9/11 attack for a few years. "MARCH 2025... NEVER AGAIN!!!" or sone shit.
This, but without the ironic condescension.

Let the leopards feast upon their faces. The the geese enjoy what has been said to be good for the ganders.

But, then again, I, personally, am primarily fueled by spite these days. So, it's probably better for everyone I don't make those decisions.
 
the Democrat party has fallen to communism and insanity while the Republicans are going to be in power for quite some time.
Just because the Dems shit the bed doesn't mean that the Republicans are golden. MAGA and Trump have gotten this far because they play hard ball against the Dem's shenanigans. In Trump's first term we saw how far politeness and rule following will get you. Trump learned his lesson and he is ready to fight tooth and nail with every trick in his book. And once Trump is gone we need the Republicans to follow his example and keep fighting or else we will be back to our regularly scheduled slow decay of America's foundation while the conservatives don't fight back.


If you and another dude agree to fight with no weapons, but he brings a gun every time and wins every confrontation, how many times do you keep showing up before you bring a gun as well?
If the dude is such a shitty gunslinger that we are having several confrontations, I would stay unarmed out of pitty for the poor guy.
 
The problem is the liberals are already breaking the rules and show no sign of stopping. If you and another dude agree to fight with no weapons, but he brings a gun every time and wins every confrontation, how many times do you keep showing up before you bring a gun as well? It's not an "eye for an eye leaves the world blind" situation, it's a "a well-armed society is a peaceful society" situation. Either Republicans start fighting at the same level or they're going to keep losing.
You're making the liberal mistake of assuming that there are no knock on effects or second order consequences.

An example of a fight with no weapons would be a boxing match. Sure you'd win, and maybe you could bribe the judges to not disqualify you, but eventually people will catch on that you fight illegally and refuse to enable it. Maybe you can bribe the police and be the mayor's son and get away with it for a while with the reporters saying you won legitimately, but eventually the sheer number of people required to back up your illegal actions will be too much and it'll all come crumbling down. Time is the greatest equalizer. It really, really sucks in the short term but lowering yourself to that level won't make it any better.
 
You're making the liberal mistake of assuming that there are no knock on effects or second order consequences.

An example of a fight with no weapons would be a boxing match. Sure you'd win, and maybe you could bribe the judges to not disqualify you, but eventually people will catch on that you fight illegally and refuse to enable it. Maybe you can bribe the police and be the mayor's son and get away with it for a while with the reporters saying you won legitimately, but eventually the sheer number of people required to back up your illegal actions will be too much and it'll all come crumbling down. Time is the greatest equalizer. It really, really sucks in the short term but lowering yourself to that level won't make it any better.
somehow you entirely missed the point. there are no judges anymore. everyone is picking sides. everyone is partisan now. there are no neutral parties to officiate. they've brought this upon themselves by noticing there was no official to stop them and bringing brass knuckles to every boxing match and wearing them instead. now, without neutral parties, there are only winners and losers every time. in this case, if WE lose, we see it as the actual beginning of the end, or continuation of the end, of america. in my view, the beginning of the decline of humanity, too.
 
Explain why he cant just have his guys defy the judges and just pardon them afterward off all wrongdoings over the last 80 centuries.
Because the pardon power only goes back to the drafting/signing of the constitution. He could certainly pardon them of their indiscretions of the last 2.5 centuries though
 
You're making the liberal mistake of assuming that there are no knock on effects or second order consequences.

An example of a fight with no weapons would be a boxing match. Sure you'd win, and maybe you could bribe the judges to not disqualify you, but eventually people will catch on that you fight illegally and refuse to enable it. Maybe you can bribe the police and be the mayor's son and get away with it for a while with the reporters saying you won legitimately, but eventually the sheer number of people required to back up your illegal actions will be too much and it'll all come crumbling down. Time is the greatest equalizer. It really, really sucks in the short term but lowering yourself to that level won't make it any better.
I've had to put up with globohomo front and center since the Chocolate Messiah hit the scene in 2008. I'm not saying Trump should send SEAL Team 6 to eliminate all his political opposition, I'm saying the Republicans should remind the Democrats that turnabout is fair play. The commies do not get to clutch pearls when there is ample evidence of them doing the exact same thing for years. Why do you think the Democrats didn't organize riots on the election certification day? Why do you think the Democrats cucked on the continuing resolution? They know the score.
 
probably deserve my clocks, but this is always nice to see. elon in favor of restoring the smith-mundt act.
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Elon doesn't know what Smith-Mundt was.

Smith-Mundt relaxation was fedgov bowing to the fact that ethnic radio stations were just playing Voice of America content since they didn't have to pay royalties to anyone for it; technically it's without copyright.
 
I think congo is mineral rich but having to wade into the hutsi tutsi brother war isn't worth the effort.
I'm all for bombing the Congo. Let's do ittttttttt.

>ICE illegally deports people judge said to bring back
>Trump pardons ICE members


Explain why he cant just have his guys defy the judges and just pardon them afterward off all wrongdoings over the last 80 centuries.
He absolutely can. The Courts are going to get packed by Trump over this. Roberts is signaling he's dropping his mask as a Swamp Creature siding with his fellow Federal Judge cohorts to undermine the President and I can see no resolution for this. The courts have no authority and everything they're doing is 1000% illegal and they have no recourse for it. Trump's only choice is to deal a devastating blow to the Judicial Branch by ignoring and defying their corruption or by simply saying "enforce it, nigger". Either way, Roberts is getting felted and now he's proving to be a serious problem.
 
somehow you entirely missed the point. there are no judges anymore. everyone is picking sides. everyone is partisan now. there are no neutral parties to officiate. they've brought this upon themselves by noticing there was no official to stop them and bringing brass knuckles to every boxing match and wearing them instead. now, without neutral parties, there are only winners and losers every time. in this case, if WE lose, we see it as the actual beginning of the end, or continuation of the end, of america. in my view, the beginning of the decline of humanity, too.
And now nobody is watching the matches and the organization is going bankrupt, and they have to determine if they will accept reforms or if a new organization will come up to replace them.
 
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I've had to put up with globohomo front and center since the Chocolate Messiah hit the scene in 2008. I'm not saying Trump should send SEAL Team 6 to eliminate all his political opposition, I'm saying the Republicans should remind the Democrats that turnabout is fair play. The commies do not get to clutch pearls when there is ample evidence of them doing the exact same thing for years. Why do you think the Democrats didn't organize riots on the election certification day? Why do you think the Democrats cucked on the continuing resolution? They know the score.
The Liberals have legitimate narcissism disorder. They will refuse to recognize that they are just getting back what they dished out and will cry foul and use their entire lie apparatus to make the Republicans look like the villains. If the Republicans maintain a level of decorum the people can make their own decisions, but if it's clear that the Republicans also do illegal shit the people can't determine if the scale is the same or not.
 
Hey pal I know you're retarded and fail to grasp this site's culture and function but you accidently wrote your own post in the quote field. I couldn't expect much else from a dipshit who tried arguing with me what 'pooner' meant and how it's actually really cool and epic to be one.
 
And now nobody is watching the matches and the organization is going bankrupt, and they have to determine if they will accept reforms or if a new organization will come up to replace them.
But your assuming the pressures to survive will push the Dems into making substantial positive improvements to their party instead of just forcing them to simply become more cunning.
 
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