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Should be a wild four years.

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it's time to get the rulebook out and see which ones the democrats have crossed out, and whenever they try and obstruct in that way, make it very obvious the rule is being broken by this side because of the other side's previous breaking of it.
I agree with this 100%. Republicans did this moral high ground bullshit during the Obama years and it got them nowhere. The only standards that Democrats possess are double standards. Sometimes you have to fight dirty and it's justified when the stake is "the whole fucking country," which the Democrats are openly dead-set on destroying to ring in their dream New World Order nonsense.
 
The left has been using the courts for decades now to get what they want, instead of convincing voters and using Congress. The courts SHOULD have told them to fuck off and settle political questions politically. Unfortunately judges were more then happy to usurp executive and legislative power.

It was only a matter of time before a President came along with enough political capital to tell the courts to go fuck themselves. That what has really got the left upset. Not a break with norms. Not defying the rule of law, but rather their preferred method of imposing top down control over the country is being foreclosed.
 
The left has been using the courts for decades now to get what they want, instead of convincing voters and using Congress. The courts SHOULD have told them to fuck off and settle political questions politically. Unfortunately judges were more then happy to usurp executive and legislative power.

It was only a matter of time before a President came along with enough political capital to tell the courts to go fuck themselves. That what has really got the left upset. Not a break with norms. Not defying the rule of law, but rather their preferred method of imposing top down control over the country is being foreclosed.
What the Republicans should do is start doing retarded legal shit. Homeowners associations should use freedom of association to prevent Democrats from moving in. Literally deny housing to Democrats. By the way, Democrats already do this in their stronghold areas - landlords use bullshit local statues about "hate speech" to harass conservatives. In some cities, the local PD requires you to register and catalog all your firearms (in lieu of or even in defiance of state law) or landlords will tell you to fuck off (or evict you!) if you have firearms.
Imagine not carrying around a big sack of coins and making the cashier manually count out the value. This country has gone to hell. :(
Imagine not carrying around several slaves and bargaining them for bulk grocery purchases. Shaking my damn head, as the youths say. They never had it so good!
 
Clock me if I'm late - and I was day behind in this thread - but there was talk of 'Hamilton' and this was found in the order:

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Am I reading this right? They fucking cited it?
This is more autistic than most people realize. In Hamilton, one of the Schuyler sisters, Angelica Schuyler, played by a strong independent sheboon,
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in her introduction song is bragging about what an intellectual she is and quotes "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal" only to then immediately say that when she meets Thomas Jefferson she'll force him to "include women in the sequel" of the declaration of Independence.

In essence, the cited line is nothing more than the writer of this document being a huge faggot fanboying over Hamilton for literally no reason. It adds no important information, it's literally just a quote that the real Angelica Schuyler never fucking said.

 
Congo offered Trump a deal: Kill the Nigerian M23 rebels and get precious metals. Erik Prince of blackwater fame is there making deals about securing mining ops and tax revenue. From the WSJ.


“Your election has ushered in the golden age for America,” Tshisekedi wrote in the letter, which has been seen by The Wall Street Journal. “Our partnership would provide the U.S. with a strategic advantage by securing critical minerals such as cobalt, lithium, copper and tantalum from the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

In exchange, Tshisekedi asked Trump for a “formal security pact” to help his army defeat M23, a Rwandan-backed rebel group that recently routed Congolese soldiers, United Nations troops and private mercenaries and seized key cities in Congo’s mineral-rich east.

The Congolese letter didn’t specify what kind of military backing it wants from the U.S. A White House official said it doesn’t “provide details on the private correspondence to the president.”

The offer comes at the same time Tshisekedi is in negotiations with Erik Prince, a Trump ally who founded the controversial private-military company then called Blackwater. If the talks succeed, Prince would help the Congolese government collect and secure taxes from mining operations, according to Congolese and Western officials.

Scores of militias operate in the wilds of eastern Congo. The latest clashes constitute aftershocks from the 31-year-old Rwandan genocide, in which ethnic Hutus slaughtered Tutsis by the hundreds of thousands. When Tutsi forces under current Rwandan President Paul Kagame defeated their Hutu rivals in 1994, many Hutu extremists fled across the border into Congo.

Rwanda has denied providing military backing to M23, whose members are predominantly Tutsis, and says its only interest is in securing its own borders and protecting ethnic kinsmen from persecution in Congo.

But a U.N. panel of experts reported in December that Kagame had dispatched 4,000 soldiers to help M23, and both Rwanda and Uganda are scrambling to secure Congolese minerals. The U.N. said Rwanda received 150 tons of smuggled coltan from a Congolese mine M23 fighters control.

The Congolese proposal is an effort to take advantage of both Trump’s transactional approach to foreign policy and a global race for natural resources to supply American technology companies and automotive giants. In his pitch, Tshisekedi predicted that a partnership with Congo would advance America’s global competitiveness in aerospace, cars, data centers and artificial intelligence.

Tantalum, extracted from coltan, and cobalt are critical components of smartphones and laptops, and are used by Apple, HP and Intel, among other American companies. Lithium is the main component of electric-vehicle batteries. Last year, Elon Musk, chief executive of Tesla and leader of Trump’s efforts to shrink the federal government, called the mineral “the new oil.”

A Tshisekedi spokeswoman confirmed the letter’s authenticity and said talks with the U.S. over access to Congo’s natural resources were ongoing. “It is in both our interests that American companies—like Apple and Tesla—buy minerals direct from source in the DRC and unlock the engine of our mineral wealth for the benefit of all the world,” she said.

An informal intermediary—a banker who advises mining companies in the African country—sent the Congolese offer letter to Trump’s office, which forwarded it to the White House National Security Council, according to a person familiar with the matter. The NSC then invited the intermediary to provide a briefing on the proposal, the person said.

On the day of the meeting, the Treasury Department unveiled sanctions against Rwanda’s minister of state for regional integration, James Kabarebe, and M23 spokesman Lawrence Kanyuka Kingston over their involvement in the Congo conflict. The sanctions had been in the works long before they were announced, according to the person familiar with the matter.

The State Department referred to the press release sanctioning the Congolese rebels and the Rwandan official but declined to comment further.

“The DRC is interested in partnering with the Trump administration to end the conflict and stop the flow of blood minerals via Rwanda,” the Tshisekedi spokeswoman said.

Prince has yet to sign a deal with Congo. But his representatives were in Kinshasa, Congo’s capital, last week to discuss his potential role in securing the country’s mining revenue, according to a Western official. Two Congolese government officials said representatives from the president’s office, Finance Ministry and state miner Gecamines have been leading the talks with Prince since last month.

Those negotiations have gained steam as the Congolese government has watched its mining revenue decline in parallel to military advances by M23.

Under the prospective contract, Prince would help Kinshasa crack down on fiscal evasion from mining producers and exporters, including by providing security for tax collectors, according to the Western official and another person familiar with the matter. Prince, a former Navy SEAL, gained prominence and notoriety during the Iraq war, when his company Blackwater provided security guards for U.S. officials and contractors.

Last year, representatives of Erik Prince also discussed with Yemeni officials a plan to bring foreign contractors to unseat Houthis rebels from the Red Sea coastline, according to Yemeni officials and a person familiar with the matter. The effort, which was not accepted, would have been repaid in oil cargoes, the person said.

In 2004, four Blackwater contractors drove past a U.S. Marine checkpoint in the Iraqi city of Fallujah and stumbled into an insurgent ambush. The four were killed, dismembered and set on fire, with two of the bodies suspended from a bridge. The incident was among the events that sparked the first battle for Fallujah.

Three years later, Blackwater guards killed 14 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad. Four of the guards were convicted in the U.S. in 2014. Trump pardoned the men in 2020.

Since Trump was inaugurated in January, he has made access to natural resources for American companies a cornerstone of his foreign policy. American diplomatic talks with Iraq have focused on talks to resume oil flows for U.S. companies that have been blocked for two years by a dispute between the government in Baghdad, the Kurdish authorities and Turkey.

Natural resources have also been a significant factor in the Trump administration’s dealings with Venezuela, Ukraine and Russia, while the president has set his sights on Greenland, a Danish possession, largely because of its reserves of rare-earth minerals.

I think congo is mineral rich but having to wade into the hutsi tutsi brother war isn't worth the effort.
 
When people tell me Trump is Hitler I ask them if they think George Bush should also be punished still and why not. I think ask what Trump has done that is worse than lying about weapons of mass destruction and exploiting the largest act of terror to get us into several wars that killed and maimed tens of thousands of Americans and well as hundreds of thousands of Muslims over the course of decades with no real goal or accomplishment to show for them.

Then ask them to pick 1 of the 2 to prosecute assuming the prosecution occurs after their 2 terms.

From there you just go back to how they are illogical or how they value the lives of Muslims less than mean words on twitter and this thinking brings their mental capacities into question. Adapt your reasoning as needed to most hurt the person depending on environment. I know a guy who used a similar conversation to get out of working with a liberal as he felt it was a "workplace safety issue" basically saying the guy was too dumb to operate the equipment.
You can also adapt this to President Eisenhower who oversaw "Operation Wetback".

If deportation is Nazism then why would a US general turned president who fought Germany in World War 2 now be considered a Nazi?

Sure it wasn't Eisenhower who came up with the exact plan but he didn't have any objections to it when implemented but then again "silence is violence".
 
>ICE illegally deports people judge said to bring back
>Trump pardons ICE members


Explain why he cant just have his guys defy the judges and just pardon them afterward off all wrongdoings over the last 80 centuries.
Because Judges can wait 4 years. Those ICE agents have to be sure that the next President gives them pardons as well. Otherwise they get fucked through legal fuckery. It’s how so many white male business owners got arrested in the aftermath of the Feminist Revolution, the Civil Rights movement and the George Floyd Riots. When they can’t be cancelled by media, the courts will make their lives hell out of spite
 
They lost the Jaimas tier Dems that could have put in footwork without demanding the actblue money. We're seeing the results now.

They will need a shakeup of the superdelegate system before any meaningful changes will be allowed to happen.
They already changed the superdelegate system so that they only vote if there is a contested convention.

They just circumvented this by only allowing Biden to campaign lol.
 
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Looks like Roberts is compromised (if his behavior at the inaugaration and ACA passing didn’t prove it already). If anything, he’s the one who needs to be investigated (was he the one who leaked Roe?) and removed.

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one critique i have of the constitution is that the founding fathers understandably did not have the foresight to know that the country would one day be governed by recluse tyrants, and there was never anything about total transparency ingrained into it.
 
Because Judges can wait 4 years. Those ICE agents have to be sure that the next President gives them pardons as well. Otherwise they get fucked through legal fuckery. It’s how so many white male business owners got arrested in the aftermath of the Feminist Revolution, the Civil Rights movement and the George Floyd Riots. When they can’t be cancelled by media, the courts will make their lives hell out of spite
I mean Biden did preemptive pardons....
 
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