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That said, I will answer your question. No, to the best of my knowledge there is no precedent on the matter (precedent on pardon powers are themselves very rare)
Woodrow Wilson had a stroke that left him basically incapacitated for his second term. His wife took over and ran the Executive while everyone looked the other way. 2,480 pardons/commutations were issued while he was President, a pretty high number. I'm not sure which ones were hers but it's got to be a lot.

Interestingly enough one of the pardons issued under his Presidency led to the SC ruling that pardons must be accepted by the recipient for them to be valid and that a pardon recipient can't then plead the 5th if he does:
George Burdick – a New York newspaper editor, who had refused to testify in federal court regarding the sources used in his article concerning the collection of customs duties. He pleaded the 5th Amendment; President Wilson then granted him a full pardon for all of his federal offenses, which he refused. He continued to plead the 5th, at which he was sentenced by a federal judge for contempt. It was then that the Supreme Court (in Burdick v. United States) reinforced the necessity of accepting a pardon to be valid; the federal judge had imprisoned Burdick on the grounds that he was claiming falsely his need for protection against self-incrimination.[22]
 
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His wife ran the Executive and everyone looked the other way. 2,480 pardons were issued while he was President, a pretty high number. I'm not sure which ones were hers but it's got to be a lot.
A bit of a moot point since so many years have passed, but yeah, whatever pardons he didn't make are invalid. Differentiating them however seems to be hard.
 
A bit of a moot point since so many years have passed, but yeah, whatever pardons he didn't make are invalid. Differentiating them however seems to be hard.
No one dared challenge them because of the immediate Constitutional crisis it would cause. Nobody knew what to do when a living President becomes a vegetable but stays alive so they all just accepted the wife for a few years. There wasn't a 25th Amendment to remove an incapacitated President then.
 
A small question: ¿Has ever a president overruled a presidential pardon? they could've done that for Nixon if the answer is yes.
Yes, wow, I sure wonder why President Gerald Ford, Vice President to Nixon who assumed the role of the Executive after Nixon's resignation, chose instead to pardon the man who put him into the job rather than jailing him.

It sure is a mystery.
 
Just incredibly cringy, but Zoomies are made of cringe. Also, have we confirmed that the women are actual women? Maybe harry likes the girldick.
Theory: Harry is gay (I believe he is), and he wishes he wasn’t. Moreover, he’s such a flamer that he knows he can’t really convince people otherwise- least of all now, after he put himself out there the way he did during the Biden administration/2024 election.

So maybe this is self-hating gay Harry’s way of trying to create plausible deniability and get people to think he’s straight- having him publicly seen (in writing, no less) as hitting on girls. It has to be intentional, because who the fuck puts their full name as their Snapchat handle? Especially if you have a public-facing, scrutinized position? Only reason that comes to mind there is he’s actually hitting on them and wants them to google his name out of some need to flex his esteemed position as a political influencer, which he’s SO proud of.
 
Yes, wow, I sure wonder why President Gerald Ford, Vice President to Nixon who assumed the role of the Executive after Nixon's resignation, chose instead to pardon the man who put him into the job rather than jailing him.

It sure is a mystery.
Nixon didn't choose Gerald Ford, Ford was forced on him after his sitting VP Spirew Agnew was forced to resign for corruption. Nixon resigned eight months later.
 
Nixon didn't choose Gerald Ford, Ford was forced on him after his sitting VP Spirew Agnew
That part I actually didn't know about, but I had recalled from school way back when there having been a big controversy over Nixon having been pardoned by his own VP after the latter assumed the Presidency.
 
No one dared challenge them because of the immediate Constitutional crisis it would cause. Nobody knew what to do when a living President becomes a vegetable but stays alive so they all just accepted the wife for a few years. There wasn't a 25th Amendment to remove an incapacitated President then.
Which is how I think the autopen case will go. It'll get get shut down to avoid the avoid a crisis but then we'll see some restrictions put on the autopen to prevent this situation in the future.
 
Theory: Harry is gay (I believe he is), and he wishes he wasn’t. Moreover, he’s such a flamer that he knows he can’t really convince people otherwise- least of all now, after he put himself out there the way he did during the Biden administration/2024 election.

So maybe this is self-hating gay Harry’s way of trying to create plausible deniability and get people to think he’s straight- having him publicly seen (in writing, no less) as hitting on girls. It has to be intentional, because who the fuck puts their full name as their Snapchat handle? Especially if you have a public-facing, scrutinized position? Only reason that comes to mind there is he’s actually hitting on them and wants them to google his name out of some need to flex his esteemed position as a political influencer, which he’s SO proud of.
Personally, I think the party knows they completely alienated the male demographic so they're they're trying to ease up off the homo shit. I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC uses some of its donor money to pay some chick to be his beard.
 
Personally, I think the party knows they completely alienated the male demographic so they're they're trying to ease up off the homo shit. I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC uses some of its donor money to pay some chick to be his beard.
No, the party is doubling down on more of the same, not engaging in 4d chess to become chuds. Harry is just the bog standard metrosexual sex pest, there's nothing complicated behind this.
 
Yes, wow, I sure wonder why President Gerald Ford, Vice President to Nixon who assumed the role of the Executive after Nixon's resignation, chose instead to pardon the man who put him into the job rather than jailing him.

It sure is a mystery.

Nixon didn't choose Gerald Ford, Ford was forced on him after his sitting VP Spirew Agnew was forced to resign for corruption. Nixon resigned eight months later.
Agreed. Ford was a Deep State/Glowie plant. There's audio posted a couple days ago ITT of LBJ talking to J Edgar Hoover a few days after the JFK assassination about what a swell pick Jerry Ford from Michigan would be as a controllable member of the Warren Commission.
 
I like HHH and would happily take his boomer liberal posts in exchange all of the sleeper doomer accounts any day of the week. He is a mainstay of the thread and should be given the respect he deserves to boomerpost in peace. Please all sleeper agents to the woodchipper.
Nah, burn all of them to the ground, then into the crystal for ALL of them.
 
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