Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Junkers 87]

The administration signs executive orders prohibiting trooning out children because its child abuse. The administration scraps the program keeping track of all those Ukrainian kids kidnapped by Russia because...? Can anybody here name me one good reason why this program had to go? Trump might have brought up the prospect of reestablishing it in his latest phone call with Zelensky, but I have my doubts the Ukrainians working with the US on the matter will ever again be able to fully trust them.

There was absolutely no reason for this program to have ended. That no one had the wherewithal to exclude this one thing after the pause in aid was announced is disgraceful enough, but to then misplace the data itself is astoundingly stupid and dark.

This is just speculation on my part, but in regard to the perceived hypocrisy that’s been displayed, this administration was right to oppose the issue of trooning out kids. However, outside the lens of turning a partisan issue into a cultural victory, this administration is not obligated to care about non-American children. That’s not to say I support this notion; it fills me with revulsion.

A meme:

Mearsheimer is a fucking nigger. He wrote three insightful books and is an 'expert' on realist theory, but will shit himself when asked what his response to something like the Rwandan Genocide or Srebrenica would have been. He cannot comprehend the idea of doing the right thing without strategic interest as a motivator. He is a soulless faggot, the horseshoe opposite of a neo-con ghoul.

 

[Ghostse]

F-14 were designed for spotting and hunting the bombers before they can launch the anti-ship and cruise missiles. Cheney fucked the U.S. Navy to an unfathomable level when he order the destruction of the F-14 production lines.

I suppose I should have clarified that it was one of the things it was designed for. If it couldn't get the bomber or the launch was land-based, it had the ability to track and shoot-down the threat. Or at least provide tracking data to the fleet or other missile defense. Because the Tomcat was supposed to also be able to detect and counter ballistic missiles, including MIRV versions, which is why the track-and-engage number is so high compared to the number of missiles it could possibly carry.

Doug Ford of Ontario has threatened to increase electricity rates,

Already cucked

https://apnews.com/article/canada-us-tariffs-carney-34f3dcc2eb61865cb66791554f1b5abb

It's not being taken as good natured joshing

Trump is needling a sore point in Canadian "pride" to get them to do something they should have done over a decade ago.
Being polite was already tried and it accomplished nothing.
Not even 60 days of calling them out for being faggots as got them to locate their checkbooks. 72 hours after tariff threats, Canada appoints a Fent czar - a trivial action that should have been done years ago.
Our "allies" have been fairly shit and malding at finally getting called out about it.

And when you call them out on their lies, they get asshurt, because they want to be seen as respectable, but also at the same act as subhuman degenerates. Too bad, that's not how it works. You act like deranged retards, and I will treat you accordingly.

Except for the ones you block because you get called out on your bullshit, lol.

This poster, despite their tough posting, blocks anyone who disagrees with them and calls them out on both their egregious double standards and the fact they are, please forgive me, a Eurocuck.
A Eurofag & HHH Sockpuppet who melts down constantly about a foreign leader, makes no effort to understand that country's politics, and refuses to admit to being german because it would expose them to unending mockery for the pot calling the kettle black. (also because Merkel's shitposter death squads would round them up)

Canada should acquire infinity FPV drones with the help of China and take out the rogue element that has stated threats to their territory.

Trudeau has already stepped down though. Its a little late to go after him.

 

[Gog & Magog]

Because there is 40+ years of retarded foreign spending that has enabled embedded parasites to continue to glut themselves on tax dollars and the only way to keep them from trying to protect their little fiefdoms is to burn everything
Trump tried the targeted approach last time, got stymied, so this time he's using a sledgehammer.

I think our allies would have appreciated a heads up well in advance. Vulnerable allies like Ukraine should have received special attention on the matter instead of being shafted alongside all the other 3rd world shitholes like Thailand.

There should have been a better plan to rehydrate stuff that does work, but people act like this this shit comes out of nowhere when its been a long,long time coming.

I hope they make wiser decicions in the future, but I don't forsee our allies across the waters forgetting this any time soon.

This is just speculation on my part, but in regard to the perceived hypocrisy that’s been displayed, this administration was right to oppose the issue of trooning out kids. However, outside the lens of turning a partisan issue into a cultural victory, this administration is not obligated to care about non-American children. That’s not to say I support this notion; it fills me with revulsion.

Agreed. Children suffering anywhere is unfortunate. The children of our allies suffering because our adversary has explicitly targeted them for removal and indoctrination is horrific. All this happening while the Executive stumble over themselves trying to fix what they had just broken is unbelievable.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Problem with giving a heads up to anybody is that it also alarms the parasites (domestic and foreign) the hammer is incoming. And that's on the assumption Trump is even giving a fuck about niceties.

 

[WelperHelper99]

You guys are all fucking Retards. The "51st state" shit is a decades old meme.
They made a movie (Comedy you fucking autists) about it for fucks sake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon And lets not forget the old Fallout-series chestnut

This is why Eurofags need to stay out of US politics.
Trump is calling out the Canucks for selling their entire country to the Chinks & letting their military degrade to nothing.

tl;dr: He's not talking about annexing Alberta so you all really need to stop getting your world view from the top patients of the TDS infection ward.

Euros commenting on North American politics period is idiotic. We kicked you niggers out. Bullying the Canadians is a national pasttime that we've slacked on in recent decades. But they deserve it. They are, after all, a fucking leaf.

 

[World in Scarlet]

I think our allies would have appreciated a heads up well in advance. Vulnerable allies like Ukraine should have received special attention on the matter instead of being shafted alongside all the other 3rd world shitholes like Thailand.

I hope they make wiser decicions in the future, but I don't forsee our allies across the waters forgetting this any time soon.

Agreed. Children suffering anywhere is unfortunate. The children of our allies suffering because our adversary has explicitly targeted them for removal and indoctrination is horrific. All this happening while the Executive stumble over themselves trying to fix what they had just broken is unbelievable.

You're talking to the American version of a Putin worshipping vatnigger here. He constantly lies and argues in bad faith..
Since Trump was sworn in, he's become completely deranged, I speculate because he is struggling 24/7 with cognitive dissonance.
Trying to have a discussion with him is like trying to have one with Feline Supremacist at this point.

 

[Ghostse]

I think our allies would have appreciated a heads up well in advance. Vulnerable allies like Ukraine should have received special attention on the matter instead of being shafted alongside all the other 3rd world shitholes like Thailand.

@Fatsuit Shinji covered it; any heads up would have been used by the affected parasites to circle the wagons; they are already trying to abuse the US court system to get their poorly-accounted fed bux turned back on. It sucks that Ukraine and other countries, through no fault of their own are getting hurt just for taking offered cash.
But this is an out from a systemic problem that funding for "Tracking children abducted into a country with decriminalized possession of child porn" is pulled from the same buckets as "Supplying male tampons for conferences about promoting BIPOC-owned business" and due to protection of patronage appointments, you can't go after them without upending the whole bucket.

(It also sucks the CIA glowies will need to find other status for cover. I mean that seriously. USAIDS was always a glowfront, everyone knew it, and losing that ready excuse does hurt foreign intel operations. But it really wasn't worth the cost, and hopefully something better takes its place)

Euros commenting on North American politics period is idiotic. We kicked you niggers out. Bullying the Canadians is a national pasttime that we've slacked on in recent decades. But they deserve it. They are, after all, a fucking leaf.

The bullying has become a little unequal I'll admit. US would claim Canada is America Jr, Canucks would be smug right back about hockey and free healthcare, and everyone got along. But now that Canada's healthcare system is a joke with the only service that doesn't have an 8-month line being MAID, and lets not get into NHL standings (plus hockey no longer being diverse enough), they can't really come back with anything.

You're talking to the American version of a Putin worshipping vatnigger here. He constantly lies and argues in bad faith..
Since Trump was sworn in, he's become completely deranged, I speculate because he is struggling 24/7 with cognitive dissonance.
Trying to have a discussion with him is like trying to have one with Feline Supremacist at this point.

This is the poster who posts Trump sex fantasies and AI homoerotic BDSM pics because he's a completely normal person. He melts down constantly about a foreign leader that he can do nothing about because its not his country, and screeches when confronted for posting long disproven lies and false narratives. But then complains its only the "other side" that does that. In his world view, Trump is the only politician that has ever lied about anything.
See previous this person's complaints about "Cold war chat being quality thread content"; then posts literal eurofag snide backbiting adding nothing to the thread subject or any side convos. Because the quoted post is DEFINITELY adding to the quality of thread discussion around here, most certainly.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The bullying has become a little unequal I'll admit. US would claim Canada is America Jr, Canucks would be smug right back about hockey and free healthcare, and everyone got along. But now that Canada's healthcare system is a joke with the only service that doesn't have an 8-month line being MAID, and lets not get into NHL standings (plus hockey no longer being diverse enough), they can't really come back with anything

It's always been unequal but at least in the past the Canadians were still Canada and not Indian and Chinese slums. It's becoming a question of loyalty. You wanna be North American or Asian soup? The bullying will continue until the fent stops and deportations improve.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

In the 1990s Ukrainians from Odesa made a TV show about stupid Russians and sold it to Russia:
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Gonna have to push back on this, even many Russians aren't beyond self-deprecating humor, shit is funny.

As for Trump's foreign policy, it makes little sense to me. Dude is off the chain.
Unless there's positive results at the end of whatever this fuckery is, I refuse to accept that it's some clever play.

 

[World in Scarlet]

There was an explosion at the ammunition depot of Engels air base, which is the home of strategic bombers.

Many secondary explosions.

Edit: Allegedly this was the weapon which penetrated the air defenses protecting a large part Russia's fleet of strategic bombers.

 

[Ghostse]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltics-poland-announce-planned-withdrawal-013242023.html

Baltics and Poland announce planned withdrawal from landmine treaty

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Baltics and very likely Finland are in the process of withdrawing from the Ottawa treaty against anti-personnel mines.
If I were them I'd drop from the NNP as well.

Gonna have to push back on this, even many Russians aren't beyond self-deprecating humor, shit is funny.

As for Trump's foreign policy, it makes little sense to me. Dude is off the chain.
Unless there's positive results at the end of whatever this fuckery is, I refuse to accept that it's some clever play.

https://www.politico.eu/article/hold-eu-opens-fiscal-tap-secure-europe-warns-against-defense-washing-valdis-dombrovskis/

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2025/03/18/germany-parliament-massive-debt-reform/7621742350209/

Clever play or not, its working.

Additionally:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/macron-champions-european-defence-shift-with-rafale-upgrade/ar-AA1BfZ3v?ocid=BingNewsVerp

lol. Macron, my nigga, you have made 200 fighters over 20 years. You haven't upgraded your own airforce from the Mirage. The pipe dream you could supply Europe. lol. Fucking lol.

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I'm trying to unpack last nights fuckery. The lugenpress is saying the ceasefire was violated, the Russosphere is complaining about US imperialism and how Ukraine started it, and the Golden Worde won't shut up about "Trump's prescient dire WWIII prediction".
The only thing everyone agrees on is there was a call, Russia sent drones against the targets it promised it wouldn't under a ceasefire (what the fuck is it with Russia and their love of bombing hospitals?), Ukraine launched retaliation.

From what I've pieced together, Putin "agreed" to a limited ceasefire on the call but nothing was signed, then two hours later did what he claimed Russia would stop doing.
I am waiting with anticipation for the Zigger logical hoop jumping that will explain how Putin's verbal agreement with another head of state and immediate violation is totally dfferent from a very weak verbal assurance from a diplomat about NATO to a leader whose country was imploding that wasn't considered after 10 years.

So waiting to see response. Signed ceasefire or not, this was a very clear challenge by Putin.

Trump repeating claims of The CAULLLLLLDROOOOON also mystify me because he's got access to the CIA spy sats.
Best I have is there were complaints from Ukrainians about the only main road into the Kursk salient being in range of Russian drones and artillery. Which is hardly the same as encircled by that's hardly the first time Trump has ignored details to focus on the message he wants to deliver.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

We'll see how it goes, I suppose.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Clever play or not, its working.

A certain Eastern Euro happening in
Feb '22 likely had a bigger impact. Trump's language did provide a needed frightener tho. Rheinmetall needd to send The Donald a golden than youcard. Still better language would be wiser. It doesn't need to be Bush snr stiff, but it's bad for non Rheinmetall / Politico general economic biz.

Additionally

Macron does talk a very big game, but at least France has an independent nuclear deterrent (c 300 devices) and a working nuclear powered aircraft carrier, plus nuclear submarines. It's army has 270,000 active personnel (compared to > 180k of UK Forces) and 60,000 reserves, excluding gendarmarie and an expeditionary capability. Taken with Poland, this could be the basis (with a lot of actual work) for a more self reliant European security system. Basically, they (Western Euros) at least have to reach Cold War levels (pre Clinton 'peace dividend) to show seriousness. Macron too has a gilded palace, pomp and the lordly ways that Trump likes.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Life in the Russian army:

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"Regarding informal rules and practices, I think it’s worth pointing out a couple of conceptual issues that might be worth treating as root problems." - Comments by a Russian milblogger.

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Contract - Voluntary or Forced?
In military units, conscripts and mobilized reservists are being forced to sign contracts.

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Scammers are dragging alcoholics, people with cerebral palsy, and the psychologically unstable into contracts. Regions are signing them up to overfulfill quotas.

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Menaced by Trump, Canada Prepares to Join E.U. Military Industry Buildup​

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For some systems, the US is the only supplier at the moment, and it will take years to develop alternatives, but there are many goods from the US that can be purchased from friendly countries, supporting the expansion of their domestic industry instead of subsidizing America's. Under Biden, the US profited greatly from increases of exports of LNG and weapons orders, probably generating more revenue for American companies and wages for workers than was spent on helping Ukraine, but it looks like that might change in the mid- to long-term.
I think it's questionable whether trading NATO for Putin's approval is good business.

 

[MG-34]

Baltics and Poland announce planned withdrawal from landmine treaty

Can wait to see AI capable landmines that can chase down and kamikaze personnel based on their uniforms or even voices.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Edit: Allegedly this was the weapon which penetrated the air defenses protecting a large part Russia's fleet of strategic bombers.

Remember when ziggers claimed that Russian AD was the best in the world, and that it would render even advanced shit like the F-35 irrelevant? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

 

[NKVD qt]

Can wait to see AI capable landmines that can chase down and kamikaze personnel based on their uniforms or even voices.

Imagine a quadcopter collapsed in a small tube using a network of either cameras of buried microphones to detect movement then fly out and inspect whatever is moving for enemy camo pattern or something. Terrifying.

 

[thx1138]

Remember when ziggers claimed that Russian AD was the best in the world, and that it would render even advanced shit like the F-35 irrelevant? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

At this point I think the S300 and S400 systems cabinets are just full of those Chinese nintendo-on-a-chip boards.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Gonna have to push back on this, even many Russians aren't beyond self-deprecating humor, shit is funny.

As for Trump's foreign policy, it makes little sense to me. Dude is off the chain.
Unless there's positive results at the end of whatever this fuckery is, I refuse to accept that it's some clever play.

Yeah, it's simple, funny stuff.

I'm honestly not entirely certain what POTUS is doing. While its one way to put the frighteners into Western Europe, and so get it to rearm, it's also disrespectful. If people believe in likely memes like a kill switch to disable a defense system if some leader offended Trump, far fewer leaders will go for a US system. What Dassault Rafale offers, Saab's Gripen series are just some possibilities if POTUS is perceived as erratic. The Gripen scored well when Canada was assessing new combat aircraft (that took nearly 30 years, maybe Maple syrup slows em down a bit), a decision which ended with choosing the F-35. Maybe Trump will have to order Vance / Bowman / whatever he's called to wear a dress again to assuage liberal Canadian anger. It'd go with the makeup and guyliner he already wears. Honestly Trump needs to start employing professional, competent people, who can tell him no or even advise him competently (as all indications so far suggest there's no one there).

Hopefully this wasn't posted, but William Spaniel's video provides a review of the phone-y ceasefire.

The US and Russia are again to discuss Ukraine in Saudi Arabia in four days. It seems a glowie heavy RU crew, altho surely Sergei Beseda (fmr FSB Fifth Service so in charge of gathering intel on UA before the invasion) seems not exactly competent in his record. The Grain Initiative will be discussed among other things. That suggests some low quality concessions (the way there was a small prisoner release) from Russia in return for enormous concessions from the US - the sort of deal we've become familiar with so far this year.

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Russia and the United States will hold consultations in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on March 24 to discuss the war in Ukraine, according to Russian presidential aide for international affairs Yuri Ushakov, as reported by state-owned news agency TASS on March 20.

Ushakov said he had spoken with U.S. President Donald Trump's national security adviser, Mike Waltz, regarding "the implementation of a well-known initiative concerning the safety of navigation in the Black Sea."

A similar arrangement previously existed under the Black Sea Grain Initiative, a deal brokered by the U.N. and Turkey in 2022. The initiative allowed Ukraine to export agricultural products via the Black Sea despite Russia's full-scale invasion, helping stabilize global food prices.

Moscow withdrew from the agreement in July 2023, effectively collapsing the deal.

Since then, Russian forces have repeatedly targeted Ukrainian port infrastructure and civilian vessels. A Russian ballistic missile struck the Odesa port on March 1, damaging port facilities and a Panamanian-flagged civilian ship.

Multiple foreign ships have been damaged in Russian attacks on the port, including in October 2024, when several vessels sustained damage in separate strikes.

The upcoming consultations in Riyadh will include Russian officials Grigory Karasin, chairman of the Federation Council Committee on International Affairs, and Sergei Beseda, an adviser to the director of Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB).

Beseda previously led the FSB's 5th Service, which was responsible for gathering intelligence on Ukraine before the full-scale invasion.

The upcoming Riyadh talks come after U.S.-Russia negotiations in Saudi Arabia on Feb. 18 and in Istanbul on Feb. 27. U.S. and Ukrainian delegations held separate discussions in Jeddah on March 11, where the Ukrainian side proposed a ceasefire in the sky and at sea but eventually agreed to a full 30-day truce pushed by Washington.

Putin rejected a full ceasefire in a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump but agreed to a temporary mutual pause on strikes against energy infrastructure.

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[ToEnsureVerification]

Honestly Trump needs to start employing professional, competent people, who can tell him no or even advise him competently

Look at what happened with Gen. Mattis for just one example. Trump not only fires anyone who tells him "no", but also who tell him, "yes, but..."

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Back to Ukraine, any news on the incursion into Belgorod? It appears to be a limited one to get the troops at Kursk salient out safely, from what Dennis has said. It's weird it hasn't been mentioned more in more channels.