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I hope you experience your own expectations
Was January 6th political terrorism in your eyes
are you really this ignorant about how poorly “firey yet mostly peaceful protests” and “why do you care they’re burning down your city? it’s covered by insurance” taking points have been received by the general public over the last five years?
These are the most nigger responses possible. I asked a question about whether it actually legally qualified as terrorist/domestic terrorism. One person (@Endless Torment ) provided a helpful screen cap of a document that provided an answer for that: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/us-politics-general-2.210076/post-20876950

You three faggots seem to be incapable of seeing that I was simply asking a question and want to imply I had expectations by asking that, or asking what my opinion of January 6th was, or that I'm ignorant - yes I probably am ignorant, that's why I'm asking a fucking question.

It's such a fucking homosexual habit that seems to happen here and online. If you make an observation, comment or ask a question people will imply that you simply 100% must hold some other form of opinion or bring up shit like January 6th or "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests". And sure if you want to bring them as a comparison, then just say that - not everyone has their dick jacked up to 11 and is furiously jacking off at the endless political firestorms that engulf the USA.

It was a fucking question that clearly mentioned legally.

Niggers.

edit: and it's not just in political threads that people pull this shit:
Where does it look like I "defended" this to you? It's really annoying when people reply to stuff like this that I post and claim I said something that I clearly didn't.

All I said is that it's not a scam and it isn't by the definition of a scam. The fact it is extremely speculative is true, but it is being branded as a memecoin and is honest about the fact it has no real utility.
 
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Unrelated but Kanye is having a normal one....
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Words cannot adequately express how utterly tired I am of this useless attention-whoring nigger. He is literally a dancing monkey with a billion dollars and a room-temperature IQ, flinging shit from his gilded cage to see who he can upset. Why anyone pays attention to his dipshittery is beyond me. He's about as "funny" as that Johnny Somali moron currently getting run up a flagpole in South Korea for deliberately offending them as much as possible.
 
"Wow, you guys like domestic terror"

The Daily Show's audience applauds the domestic terror incidents against Tesla

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@LORD IMPERATOR This is why we shouldn't be expected to play with the kid gloves on. Whether they are winning or losing they want to exterminate you. They would (and did) torch a city down to stick it to those evil nazis. This is how they handle losing; torching and bombing. They are not going to give you a pass for your "they're both idiots" stance. You are with them, or catching a molly through the living room window.
 
It was a fucking question that clearly mentioned legally.
And it was asked in as smug a way as possible with deliberate intent to inflame.

But to answer it anyway, yes, firebombing property is considered terrorism, and doing it in the US makes it considered "domestic." The absence of human casualties is a meaningless distinction.
 
And it was asked in as smug a way as possible with deliberate intent to inflame.
Nah nigga it was just a question. Everywhere I looked mentioned "violence" but the image someone provided clarified that destruction of property is included in that in a 2020 government document.
But to answer it anyway, yes, firebombing property is considered terrorism, and doing it in the US makes it considered "domestic." The absence of human casualties is a meaningless distinction.
That's an interesting thing then because Tesla and Elon are attached at the hip with the current US government administration. I am curious if the same thing would happen to another company that isn't as directly politically connected. Say for example Walmart or Starbucks piss people off and they start getting materially vandalized (not just spraypaint) but there's no harm to human life (say it happens when they're closed)... in essence if people damage a corporations property with the intent of changing that companies policies (but not the government) then would a terrorism charge still be applicable?

I mention that because people brought up the "fiery but peaceful" riots that were mass damage against many people and companies and January 6th which took place in an undeniably political location (but as far as I'm aware there wasn't that much damage done). People are getting increasingly angry at companies and CEOs and short of "Luigi" type actions, if people sabotage/damage a corporations property I am interested if there are specific legal provisions to protect "giant company"
 
What do you guys think of how the phrase MAGA being used as an insult and even slang? It's hard to take seriously, especially when leftist say MAGAT because it destroys their "Trump is a bully/dehumanizes people" argument when they did that with him and his supporters for a decade.
I think people that need to make up a new slur instead of using one of the many great ones we already have are a bunch of retarded niggerfaggots.
 
are you really this ignorant about how poorly “firey yet mostly peaceful protests” and “why do you care they’re burning down your city? it’s covered by insurance” taking points have been received by the general public over the last five years?
September 11th 2025 no one thought Trump would really do it. After the Supreme Court ruled that destruction of someone's property "isn't that big a deal" because "they have insurance" and "its definitely not terrorism and your not a nazi for it" Trump ordered a mandatory evacuation of New York City and then he nuked it... he really fucking nuked it.

No people were harmed so this wasn't considered a big deal. I don't think anyone expected what happened next. When the mushroom cloud finally cleared a big beautiful golden tower stood alone amongst the rubble completely undamaged.
 
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I am curious if the same thing would happen to another company that isn't as directly politically connected.
It's not the target that matters. It's the purpose and intent of the people committing the acts of violence, destruction or vandalism. If people decide to start firebombing Walmarts nationwide because they want Trump to do X thing and for some reason they think that's the best way to achieve it, they're engaging in domestic terrorism.

It's a very simple definition -- committing violent or destructive crimes with the purpose of forcing political change. Just because not enough of it gets prosecuted doesn't mean it isn't pretty widespread now.
 
That's an interesting thing then because Tesla and Elon are attached at the hip with the current US government administration. I am curious if the same thing would happen to another company that isn't as directly politically connected. Say for example Walmart or Starbucks piss people off and they start getting materially vandalized (not just spraypaint) but there's no harm to human life (say it happens when they're closed)... in essence if people damage a corporations property with the intent of changing that companies policies (but not the government) then would a terrorism charge still be applicable?
The main factor of what turns a crime into terrorism is the intent. Terrorism is just any crime intended to intimidate civilians or influence the policy of the government through unlawful violent acts.
They are attacking Tesla because they are angry at government policy and they created the website to show all the people who own said cars because they want to influence how people vote and act.
 
"political violence" means assassinations, kidnappings and shit and sometimes also includes the damage of private property.

There's no violence happening. The cars are inanimate objects and belong to a company.

Destruction of property is violence, and at least in my state, I can use deadly force to put a stop to it. "But it's company property." And if a company security guard shoots you, congrats on getting ventilated by company bullets, I guess.
 
It's not the target that matters. It's the purpose and intent of the people committing the acts of violence, destruction or vandalism. If people decide to start firebombing Walmarts nationwide because they want Trump to do X thing and for some reason they think that's the best way to achieve it, they're engaging in domestic terrorism.

It's a very simple definition -- committing violent or destructive crimes with the purpose of forcing political change. Just because not enough of it gets prosecuted doesn't mean it isn't pretty widespread now.
The main factor of what turns a crime into terrorism is the intent. Terrorism is just any crime intended to intimidate civilians or influence the policy of the government through unlawful violent acts.
They are attacking Tesla because they are angry at government policy and they created the website to show all the people who own said cars because they want to influence how people vote and act.
No I'm not saying these hypothetical attacks would be aimed at changing government policy or politics but rather the policies of a private mega corporation.

Like think of the way people take rental escooters and deliberately damage them, or those little food delivery robots in the city. If people start firebombing those because the megacorp that owns them has caused job losses or is just shitty in general but is not politically attached to the government - what happens then? Like what if Amazon builds humanoid robots that are on every street corner and have taken a bunch of jobs or maybe one of them went haywire and killed some kid and people went apeshit and started destroying them?
 
I think it easily qualifies.
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Pretty handy breakdown there.
Terrorism laws are retarded. I classify them in the same bullshit category as hate crimes. I shoot a nigger? Murder. I shoot a nigger and say "fuck you, nigger," murder with hate crime modifier.

Burn a building down, arson. Burn a Tesla dealership down, arson with domestic terrorism modifier.

It's all bullshit. There are already laws to punish unlawful behavior. Instead of playing political gotcha games, they should be enforcing the fucking law. Why are they not using these resources to look back and get the people that tried to burn down federal court houses?
No I'm not saying these hypothetical attacks would be aimed at changing government policy or politics but rather the policies of a private mega corporation.

Like think of the way people take rental escooters and deliberately damage them, or those little food delivery robots in the city. If people start firebombing those because the megacorp that owns them has caused job losses or is just shitty in general but is not politically attached to the government - what happens then? Like what if Amazon builds humanoid robots that are on every street corner and have taken a bunch of jobs or maybe one of them went haywire and killed some kid and people went apeshit and started destroying them?
In this hypothetical, is Jeff Bezos personal friends with the president? If yes, terrorism, if no, regular destruction of property.
 
Terrorism laws are retarded. I classify them in the same bullshit category as hate crimes. I shoot a nigger? Murder. I shoot a nigger and say "fuck you, nigger," murder with hate crime modifier.

Burn a building down, arson. Burn a Tesla dealership down, arson with domestic terrorism modifier.

It's all bullshit. There are already laws to punish unlawful behavior. Instead of playing political gotcha games, they should be enforcing the fucking law. Why are they not using these resources to look back and get the people that tried to burn down federal court houses?

In this hypothetical, is Jeff Bezos personal friends with the president? If yes, terrorism, if no, regular destruction of property.
Don't like it when it applies to lefties, huh? Kill yourself, faggot.
 
What do you guys think of how the phrase MAGA being used as an insult and even slang? It's hard to take seriously, especially when leftist say MAGAT because it destroys their "Trump is a bully/dehumanizes people" argument when they did that with him and his supporters for a decade.
The m-word is OUR word, they don't get to say it
 
No I'm not saying these hypothetical attacks would be aimed at changing government policy or politics but rather the policies of a private mega corporation.

Like think of the way people take rental escooters and deliberately damage them, or those little food delivery robots in the city. If people start firebombing those because the megacorp that owns them has caused job losses or is just shitty in general but is not politically attached to the government - what happens then? Like what if Amazon builds humanoid robots that are on every street corner and have taken a bunch of jobs or maybe one of them went haywire and killed some kid and people went apeshit and started destroying them?
Ah I see what you mean. It's still terrorism -- the government or its policies doesn't have to be the final target. It's violence being committed specifically to effect change (e.g. "stop building the killer robbits").
 
Like think of the way people take rental escooters and deliberately damage them, or those little food delivery robots in the city. If people start firebombing those because the megacorp that owns them has caused job losses or is just shitty in general but is not politically attached to the government - what happens then? Like what if Amazon builds humanoid robots that are on every street corner and have taken a bunch of jobs or maybe one of them went haywire and killed some kid and people went apeshit and started destroying them?
I'm not sure if there has been a group that went after only one corporation over something like that as the closet would be eco-terrorists who targeted businesses and schools which as you can tell still has the word terrorism in it. You are still using crime to sow fear to make them doing something you want.
 
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