Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Rick The Stick]

>REEEEEE THE PREQUELS SUCK
>Actually the OT isn't very good

Business as usual I see.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

>REEEEEE THE PREQUELS SUCK
>Actually the OT isn't very good

Business as usual I see.

I'm more of the opinion that they're both good trilogies with some flaws. Considering that the same dude made them.

 

[LovisXVI]

I'm just hopping in to ask what you guys thought of the Radio Drama adaptation for the OT? I binged them back to back recently and I actually think I like it more than the movies due to some nice added moments. I also think I prefer Perry King over Harrison as Han. The Bahstahn accent I think nails the character more, and there's more energy and life in the take.

Also Brock Peters is fun as Vader. He's probably a bit too hammy at times but honestly his take ironically makes him feel more like PT Anakin.

Used to listen to them all the time as a kid, so I am well acquainted with them.

 

[Ghostse]

I'm just hopping in to ask what you guys thought of the Radio Drama adaptation for the OT? I binged them back to back recently and I actually think I like it more than the movies due to some nice added moments. I also think I prefer Perry King over Harrison as Han. The Bahstahn accent I think nails the character more, and there's more energy and life in the take.

Also Brock Peters is fun as Vader. He's probably a bit too hammy at times but honestly his take ironically makes him feel more like PT Anakin.

The ones with Hammil?
I thought it was ok. As you said, the performances and dialogue hewed a little too close to the source material Lucas used to develop star wars, especially with the need for the authors to narrate everything they see, but I didn't hate them. It was interesting to see some of the material from the editing room floor get re-integrated.

 

[BullfrogBill]

I'm just hopping in to ask what you guys thought of the Radio Drama adaptation for the OT? I binged them back to back recently and I actually think I like it more than the movies due to some nice added moments. I also think I prefer Perry King over Harrison as Han. The Bahstahn accent I think nails the character more, and there's more energy and life in the take.

Also Brock Peters is fun as Vader. He's probably a bit too hammy at times but honestly his take ironically makes him feel more like PT Anakin.

I was literally going to ask the same question coming into this thread today lmao. What are the odds. I absolutely love the radio adaptions of the OT, I actually prefer them to the actual movies. I also prefer to read them instead of listening to them, I've got the print versions of all three and I've worn them down a bit through the years. I hold them up in the same light as the novelizations of the prequel trilogy. When I originally got the og Star Wars novelization from Alan Dean Foster I was so disappointed since it's literally just the exact movie as ANH, same exact dialogue, same exact scenes, and nothing new. What's even the point in reading it if there's nothing expanded about the book? Might as well just watch the movie. But luckily my father introduced me to his old print copies of the radio dramas and saved the day. They are the expanded versions of the OT that I craved and they hit the spot. Anyone that hasn't read/listened to them I highly recommend you do so, to me they are the definitive versions of all three of them. I don't know if I should get into some of my favorite added scenes since I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't experienced them.

A not so fun fact about the radio adaptations of the OT is that they were writer Brian Daley's magnum opus, he was so dedicated to getting these radio versions written he worked tirelessly on them to give them an added depth not seen in the movies and give fans a proper expanded version of the OT. The reason Brian Daley worked so tirelessly on these radio dramas is that he was suffering with pancreatic cancer while writing them and almost immediately after finishing writing Return of the Jedi Brian Daley passed away. It's something I read back in the old Star Wars magazine from the 90s and it always stuck with me, Brian Daley is a fucking legend. He also wrote the og Han Solo book trilogy.

While I prefer the print book versions of these radio dramas, the actual audio is a much easier way to experience them without spending money if you can take the voice actors. ANH and Empire do feature Mark Hamill as Luke so that's not too bad but some of the other voices are kind of retarded, especially Darth Vader.

https://youtu.be/28adtieXMBk?si=d_8UfQy8dRTt4nGC

https://youtu.be/uHV5V0CRxGY?si=5174stbMBrP8QHsK

https://youtu.be/4Viqi_Y_OPY?si=eNb2jJnQDE4duQK7

 

[Screamer_2]

I still have the cassette versions of the audio plays somewhere. I remember enjoying them when I was younger. Along with other radio plays like the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ones.

 

[Jace on ice]

The only funny thing the Stmar Wars sequels did was have the hereos throw Captain Phasma the strong female girlboss warrior character down a garbage chute not on earth but twice.

I laughed both times it happened.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

david prowse did nothing wrong

watching this a bit more you can really see how the editing makes that scene the scene we got instead of the episode 1 scene where they awkwardly drop everything to stand around and discuss tariffs for a few minutes

I'm just hopping in to ask what you guys thought of the Radio Drama adaptation for the OT? I binged them back to back recently and I actually think I like it more than the movies due to some nice added moments. I also think I prefer Perry King over Harrison as Han. The Bahstahn accent I think nails the character more, and there's more energy and life in the take.

Also Brock Peters is fun as Vader. He's probably a bit too hammy at times but honestly his take ironically makes him feel more like PT Anakin.

good shit
one of my standby choices for really long road trips

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I just played a bit of Rogue Squadron 2 and 3 tonight. Good times.

It's the good kind of expanded lore where they show you where the shuttle used in EPVI came from, how they found out about the second Death Star, and why they were so fucking cocky and well-assured of victory on Endor. The Emperor laid out all the pieces on the board, but in a way where the Rebels felt like each step was a victory, from stealing the plans and the shuttle, to them destroying the SSD with the cloaking device at Fondor, which rallied the Rebels to the point where they were well-assured of victory.

 

[Space Police]

The only funny thing the Stmar Wars sequels did was have the hereos throw Captain Phasma the strong female girlboss warrior character down a garbage chute not on earth but twice.

I laughed both times it happened.

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

Best meaning barely used so your fantasies about her make her better than she actually is.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

For the same reason a lot of prequel stuff is hated: because it could have been cool, should have been cool, would have been cool if not for the mismanagement endemic in Disney Wars. You have Gwendolyn Christie playing an evil stormtrooper commander with a very snazzy design, but instead of using any of that she's just this generic useless villain. Remember, Stormtroopers didn't get any characterization in the OT, and in the PT they were a literal clone army. "Stormtroopers are people" is the one idea that TFA had to set it apart from all other entries in the series. And they still fucked it up.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

I could write a whole novel about why everything in the sequel trilogy doesn't work for me but the biggest issue that can encompass every reason I hate it is that I disagree with the notion of a second jedi purge happening in Luke's lifetime and the notion of a new Empire rising up where the only difference between them and the old Empire is that they are fake and gay. Phasma is just a stooge of the fake and gay Empire, her very existence is dogshit to me but the issue is much bigger than that single character.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Going back to Rogue Squadron, I love how the game portrays the Empire as a threat. Sure, you can take down TIE Fighters and Interceptors with a dedicated spray of blasterfire, but they can take down transports and other allied ships if you don't act. Walkers take a bit of finesse to take down, especially AT-ATs, and even the common Stormtroopers can shoot off more than a fair share of your health in ground battles.

And it gets even worse as you confront Escort Carriers, Star Destroyers, or the dreaded Super Star Destroyer; with Escort Carriers, you have to stay at the back and avoid their guns while also watching for the TIE escorts. Imperial Star Destroyers fill the screen with enough flak that it makes them the 3D version of those Gradius boss ships that fill the screen with shots. And taking down the Super Star Destroyers is like flying through city streets; if you don't want their AA guns to shoot you down, you have to carefully navigate the city superstructure while sniping at the guns that can shoot you.

It's the kind of shit that's missing in recent SW works, where they just fully admit that the Empire is a fucking joke; at that point, killing Stormtroopers is basically an act of euthanasia, instead of a fierce battle against deadly foes. It seems that only Tony Gilroy wants to portray the Empire as a threat, and Andor Season 2 is his last SW work.

 

[The handsome tard]

The People vs. George Lucas, the documentary that really started the chain of events that led to where Star Wars is today. The RLM reviews could be ignored, but this, I think, was what made George call it quits.

It's been up on youtube for a while, so might as well archive it here.

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Mark talking about how they tried to get him in the documentary to trash George
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As a little extra, Hot Waffles' tastefully-titled tune - "George Lucas Raped Our Childhood"!
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90% of the nerds in this are sucking Disney's dick and thanking for the "content". To do so otherwise would force them to confront the fact that they were just spoiled men children in the early 2000's.

I'll never get tired of seeing people endlessly parrot the narrative that the OT is only good because of Fox and Lucas' team keeping him in line, and that it was the rest of the team who are actually responsible for thr OT coming out as well as it did.

"Movies are a team effort, anyway, here is why George Lucas had literally nothing to do with why Star Wars was soo good."

I mean....its pretty fucking bad as can be expected in a generic "fanfic by committee" sort of way but I can't honestly say its worse than what the actual sequel movies offered

Han and Chewie werent even mentioned lol

Yeah but at the end of TROS Chewie finally got his medal so it all evens out.

Seriously, I still am trying to fucking fathom the thought process of "we have to make it Chewie's final plot point that he gets the Medal he was not seen to have gotten in ANH" beyond this easily explained and exceedingly minor trivia point having become fixated on by reddit retards in the prior few years, as it is not only utterly fucking pointless but it implies he was unfairly denied his medal for decades for some reason in-universe and none of his friends gave a shit.

Moments like that are a reminder that Reddit was one of the worst things to happen to entertainment...

The Ewoks were bad, the rest of the movie was fine.

Gen X-ers were literally the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

You basically answered your own question, my guy.

 

[Ghostse]

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

Because the character wasn't just underdelivered but the whole character was summarized "she's cool and tough and gets special armor beause she's a girl". And then she got a novel talking about menstration. And then she was thrown down the well.

But mainly it's sort of like JarJar where it serves as a point to focus all the low-level dislike of this shambling husk that is a mockery of what the sequels should have been.

 

[Adamska]

Why is Captain Phasma hated? Yes, she was useless, but she could have been really cool (basically an evil clone commander). She's not notable enough to provoke any strong feelings, but she's one of the best parts of those movies along with Kylo Ren's shuttle and all the other First Order designs.

Poorly used in the sequels and barely used, was made up at the last second to cynically make a Blorba Flett character and sell a unique toy, and said films were dogshit. Then the comics made her a freebleeder and evil lady from the menstruation planet. No I am not fucking with you, Kathy allowed that and Porkins and Biggs be lame and gay on a beach be printed and everything. Yes, the part where they shit in the sand Hutt sculputure is Rat lore.

It's fucking canon to that garbage.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Gen X-ers were literally the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars.

Gen-X is quite possibly the worst generation ever period.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Gen-X is quite possibly the worst generation ever period.

The Baby Boomers got Gen-X beat on who's the worser generation simply on the virtue of there's more of them. FFS even the non-poz boomers think their generation is the worst.