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Should be a wild four years.

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The nooticer in me can't help but nootice that the majority of these judges blocking the deportation of viscous rapists and sex traffickers are women.

Too bad internet feminists are retarded otherwise they might learn something valuable here.
Too busy screaming about uplifting and protecting tate brothers who are also known sex traffickers and pedos and about conor mcgregor, a man whose rape victim had to have their tampon surgically removed after rape oh and her partner was stabbed and windows smashed or his record with assault, roberry, drunken driving and more sexual assaults. He was let in the white house and paraded like he dindu nuffin . You white George Floyd just still breathing for now If you want to go whataboutism.

But hey ho sorry for not doing what you want whiny faggot.
 
The Republican party is driving off a cliff and we’re in the car seat.
Good. Fuck the party, it's been a fucking dumping ground of twisted neo-corpo values for a goddamn century, badly kept afloat by occasionally winning key 80/20 issues and then throwing it all away to court democrat bullshit or religiously approved corporate puppeteering. The only thing that has stayed the same about the parties is the progressive democrats being racially motivated socialist supremacists subverting America since before WW1, and promptly spreading that progressivism to republicans as well like cancer.

Anyhows hi George you're so sweet still posting here. I unironically get happy seeing you or fatpacks randomly around, hugs and kisses! Death to the parties!

Also what's your favorite Vance meme? I'm partial towards the one where they babyface him onto models lmfao
 
Under the legal definition of terrorism in the US it wouldn't be considered terrorism:

There's a few things mentioned:
  • (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
  • (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
  • (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;
Destroying megacorp's robot fleet doesn't fall under any of these because it isn't threatening or coercing a civilian population or the policy of a government and doesn't involve violence against a human.
There are provisions for critical infrastructure (such as 5G towers) but megacorp's robot fleet doesn't seem like it has some special legal provision/protection.
uhh my fellow "domestic terrorism" bros I'm not feeling so good :mad:
There is no specific US law against domestic terrorism, but prosecutors can request longer prison sentences if convicted criminals have a terrorism-related motive.

Trump and Musk have called the attacks domestic terrorism, too. Supporters of the administration have also reportedly been "swatted" – subjected to armed police raids after hoax emergency calls.

A statement from the Department of Justice on Thursday did not name the suspects in the Tesla vandalism. However, the details of the three cases outlined in the news release match arrests and charges previously announced by prosecutors.

The suspects include Lucy Nelson, 42, who was charged with possession of a destructive device and malicious destruction of property after being spotted near the site of a Tesla dealership in Colorado.

The dealership had been targeted with a Molotov cocktail attack and graffiti which caused damage of between $5,000 and $20,000, according to a criminal complaint. That suspect has pleaded not guilty.

Adam Matthew Lansky, 41, was charged with possession of a destructive device after Molotov cocktails were thrown at a Tesla dealership in Salem, Oregon. He has yet to enter a plea and will face a preliminary hearing in April.

The third, 24-year-old Daniel Clarke-Pounder, was charged with arson after allegedly throwing Molotov cocktails at Tesla charging stations in North Charleston, South Carolina, and spray-painting the car park.

In a statement, Bondi said: "The days of committing crimes without consequence have ended.

"Let this be a warning: if you join this wave of domestic terrorism against Tesla properties, the Department of Justice will put you behind bars."

The attorney general said the three suspects could face between five and 20 years in prison if convicted.

The BBC attempted to contact lawyers for the three defendants.

Now I was certain a whole bunch of people in this thread insisted this was terrorism and me asking about things "legally" was disingenuous, but I just can't seem to see any actual terrorism charges being brought? Can you?
 
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I'm not sure of any tourist visa that let's you freely jump between boarders like that outside of maybe the EU. If your on a tourist visa your usually expected to stay in the country or reapply for a new one if you leave and want to come back.
It's not a tourist visa, it's a 90 day waiver and you are specifically allowed to take short trips to Canada and Mexico as long as you are still within the 90 days. So if the story is as presented here, the German guy was still within the terms of his stay. However, I know more about two of the other cases, the Welsh girl and the Canadian actress. The Welsh girl was reasonably found to be working during her trip (you are allowed do business under the VWP, as in if you need to attend a meeting for the company you work for but you aren't allowed to take on new work/employment). So the Welsh girl was breaching the terms of the VWP. The Canadian actress was living in LA on a working Visa that became invalid and was trying to do a sneaky work around by going out of and back into the US.

As both of their stories were presented in this article as a strange abuse by border patrol agents, I pretty much assume that there is more to the German guy's story that we aren't being told.

Edit; Lucas Sielaff's issue seems to be that he gave his girlfriend's address as his when questioned at the border. If that is the case, it was an unfortunate mix-up rather than him breaching the terms of the VWP in the way that some of the people in these stories did. That said, if I was crossing national borders as part of my trip to another country, I'd be completely prepared for those parts of the trip. I'd have print outs of my documentation, my home address, the details of my flight home, my job at home, my ties to my family, my home etc. Especially if I was travelling with a romantic partner who was a citizen of that country, because I would have an obvious tie to the country I was visiting, so I'd be making my intention to return home absolutely clear. If I was speaking in foreign language, I would have practiced how to say 'I'm a tourist. I'm visiting from X country, I'm going home on X date.' I'm not going to take any chances when it comes to being misinterpreted, if another country is kind enough to let me visit, I'm going to go out of my way to show that I'm sticking to the terms laid out in the visa or waiver that I'm travelling under. Most especially if I'm crossing a border that has been regularly abused.
 
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It doesn't matter. You don't vote your way out of the mess ireland and all of Europe are in.
Con confirm. Europe is not getting out of it's pit with any sort of political solution. The system is made to ensure that anybody with the desire to do it will be sidelined in parliament. And even then countries start to get mildly serious about the topic like the fucking Swedes, you have such a number of "second generation Swedes" that are a lot more willing to organize and are a lot less bothered by "decorum" so that's how you end up with sandniggers of mayors of multiple european cities now.
 
Now I was certain a whole bunch of people in this thread insisted this was terrorism and me asking about things "legally" was disingenuous, but I just can't seem to see any actual terrorism charges being brought? Can you?
I don't understand what your point is. The act of terrorism and the charges the goverment beings forth are two very different things.
 
this is not remotely true. the ecoterrorists of the 90s were all networked up, funded by selling drugs, and very very very dangerous. they were suppressed by brutal tactics. the networks still exist and are still surveilled.

it's very hard to find good writeups of what happened in the PNW in the 90s and it's too late for me to look but a lot of people are in supermax behind it.
Can you dm me what you find cause I never heard about that.
 
I voted for Trump three times and I'm wondering at this point about JFK, with the release of the associated files (but not Epstein's!) and his comical phrase 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country'... comical because what did his country do for him? Ventilated his fucking skull. That's what.

And really, thinking about it, I wonder, what has my country 'done for me'? Well, let's consider that one thing it's done for me is put me in a position, personally, where I had to vote for an orange reality T.V. star, known adulterer and who knows what else with the lead boots they've put on when it comes to releasing the Epstein files, repeatedly to keep psychopaths out of the highest office in the land.

Why is that? Why is it, I wonder, that Donald Trump is the 'best' option we have? Why is it that our choices as a nation are always some mashup between psychopaths, shylocks, lawyers, dual-citizens loyal to another country's interests, and various other compromised individuals?

Thinking on this further I wonder also at the socialism that is present in the military. Why, when it comes down to it, that socialism is given a pass when it's for the government's mercs who have only 'served' as government-approved hitmen against 'enemies' whose main crime is... standing in the way of the interests again of foreign nations, multinational corporations, extra-national organizations, and the worst people on the planet's kickbacks from Raytheon et al? Why is it not only tolerated but encouraged, this fervent, mindless jingoism and pro-war attitude, by the public that ninety years ago would've balked at the idea of kissing the ground paid killers walked on?

I also wonder how the hell it really is that all of these so-called socialists, meanwhile, can suffer to exist the rampant and obvious corruption of their supposed standard-bearers? BLM standing for Buy Large Mansions, Bernie castigating billionaires while he is mysteriously a millionaire off of a 200k a year salary. Why it never seemingly comes around to these folks that socialism, if it is to be tolerated and structured in a manner that can even begin to function, must be implemented within a society that doesn't tolerate such larcenous filth to stain the walkways of the halls of power?

Why is it, that nationalist streaks that run throughout each major wing of the poltiical zeitgeist in America never look across the aisle and look at what's really at stake - nationalism as a concept itself, against the disgusting globalist abomination that is our current 'Liberal World Order', the one that is both hyper-capitalist in its foundations and operation yet at its highest echelons socialist in its extraction of wealth en masse from the first-world's middle class? Why, and how, I've wondered, is this lost on so many people?

And I've realized that it really is because of what my country 'has done for me' that has allowed this sorry-assed state of affairs to manifest, wherein 'conservatives' will decry those who speak truth as regards the candidate most did not vote for but rather as a choice against a greater evil in the same vein that they'll mock their supposed opposition for doing with regards to people such as Kamala, Bernie, AoC, etc.

My country, if it can be so called, has instilled and fomented an entire materialist culture of illogical, overly-emotional, overly-sentimental sheep for whom independent, truly independent, thought is an unattainable goal. People for whom have instilled in them 'safety rails' not unlike those present in AI/LLMs. I've wondered for a while after hearing on a podcast recently someone mention that 'people sound like LLMs to me now' and it's clicked - it's because so many of 'our countrymen' are brain-dead. Actually controlled in their thoughts through self-censorship.

I just wanted to get this out somewhere because it's bugged me for a minute, but I think I finally have realized that what our country has done for us is no less than what it did for JFK - it blew all of our fucking collective brains all over the pavement.
 
Morning Trump Tweets:

Debunking a NYT story about Elon being briefed by the Pentagon about a war in China:
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The anti-Tesla terrorists and their funders will get 20 years in jail:
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Prices are way down:
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More debunking the Failing New York Times:
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Trump proposes sending the anti-Tesla terrorists to El Salvador, which is famous for its lovely conditions:
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Calling out corrupt judges again:
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Get ready for liberation day:
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So it looks like the momentum is starting to slow down, and in response the Trump administration gasps for air. Trump can’t win his court cases so he’s ignoring the judges and Republicans eat it up. NEWS FLASH: executive orders are ephemeral. Do you seriously think a Republican is going to win in 2028? Who do you that’s going to be? Vance? Did you miss all the people on X who made fun of him with memes? He’s done.

Now we have proof that Trump is colluding with Putin as Russia all of a sudden agrees to a ceasefire. What a coincidence! I wonder how many pallets of cash Trump secretly had sent to the Kremlin. St. Basil’s onions have never been shinier!

So while Trump plays fast and loose with law and order who’s watching the fort? Well the minutemen are too busy reading thousands of pages of useless files barely related to the JFK assassination. It’s all a distraction retards. The Republican party is driving off a cliff and we’re in the car seat.
Me when I see a featured, well-formatted, and properly setup George Lucas bait post piss off half the users in the thread
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Government transparency (releasing the Epstein files unredacted)
Disentangling from foreign influence and political ties that are problematic - 'America First' (refusing to continue Israel-first policies/rhetoric)
Helping the American worker (ending H-1B and other associated programs)
Bringing down inflation (committing to government shutdowns and not signing spending bills)
Anti-DEI (averting working with Larry Fink, CEO of DEI, and others like him)

I'm increasingly weary of this shit not being addressed. The shit that actually matters.

And I'm increasingly weary also of the parallels between lefty worship of their false idols and the worship of Trump against his failings, by the 'conservative' right.

I just pray every single one of the 20+ million who gave Trump a chance to avoid Harris - or more accurately what she represented - are also seeing through this stupid bullshit.

If this post makes you angry it's because it made you hit one of your
'safety rails' not unlike those present in AI/LLMs
and I refuse to apologize for it.
 
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