Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

[Re(Runner)48]

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"I can't wait until animators are jobless. Get down to the welfare office. Get down to the welfare office ASAP."
-Samuel Hyde.

Wasn't that when someone asked him if he knew about Vivianne/ Hazbin Hotel? I would have loved to see him watch an episode or something.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Wasn't that when someone asked him if he knew about Vivianne/ Hazbin Hotel? I would have loved to see him watch an episode or something.

My nigga, can I admit I only watched Overture and read the transcripts and reading back on my friends Fic (The same one with the Jez OC) noticed something was wrong. In VC we picked apart the show's BS MLP/SU Syndrome shit and complained about how the characters are skinny twinks even the princess who looks like a man.

 

[Gingervitis]

Because he looked funny and was in a lot of movies.

I thought it was specifically because he got fucked over by the unions, and this was just the animators’ way of paying tribute to him?

 

[Re(Runner)48]

Honestly is there any hope for the animation industry at all? (Ignore the Californians and Millennialism) but the medium as a whole? Is it dead and are we to claim or is the the nepotism of big corporations?

 

[A Wumpa Fruit]

Honestly is there any hope for the animation industry at all? (Ignore the Californians and Millennialism) but the medium as a whole? Is it dead and are we to claim or is the the nepotism of big corporations?

Art always finds a way, and even with all the crap, you can hardly kill the art, so...

Maybe it's not all lost, maybe it's so optimistic but the future of animation it's definitely outside the California shithole, it's also on indie projects from all the world, talented videogame creators and international festivals, there's hope, and, If those talented animators can escape of content farms, Californian nepotism crap, and awful scripters, then yes, probably animation can be saved, or at least, preserved

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Honestly is there any hope for the animation industry at all? (Ignore the Californians and Millennialism) but the medium as a whole? Is it dead and are we to claim or is the the nepotism of big corporations?

Art always finds a way, and even with all the crap, you can hardly kill the art, so...

Maybe it's not all lost, maybe it's so optimistic but the future of animation it's definitely outside the California shithole, it's also on indie projects from all the world, talented videogame creators and international festivals, there's hope, and, If those talented animators can escape of content farms, Californian nepotism crap, and awful scripters, then yes, probably animation can be saved, or at least, preserved

I've been wondering if Art, like Ga(y)ming is in a need of a crash. Perhaps the Western world is. Hrm... But alas, I've heard before at this thread that there's potential of many folks who have their jobs somewhere else - and if you asked them to come up with an idea for a cartoon series, they could give something good.

I guess that is true.

 

[NoReturn]

I wonder why did old cartoons reference Peter lore a lot

Because he looked funny and was in a lot of movies.

Same reason as now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNmqmiCky3k

 

[Chromeo]

I've been wondering if Art, like Ga(y)ming is in a need of a crash. Perhaps the Western world is. Hrm... But alas, I've heard before at this thread that there's potential of many folks who have their jobs somewhere else - and if you asked them to come up with an idea for a cartoon series, they could give something good.

I guess that is true.

I might've been the one that said that, probably not the only one, but I still stand by it. If animation wasn't locked behind an unfeasibly high cost of entry, I think a lot of people in day to day life could come up with something great. Matt Groening was a nobody cartoonist who happened to get a chance to pitch a cartoon for the Tracey Ullman show, Matt Stone and Trey Parker made the equivalent of a viral video back in 1995 and Comedy Central gave them a chance to make a pilot. Even half of Disney's original nine angry men didn't have formal art education, and they're revered as animation legends. Nobodies can become somebodies, but they need the space to grow and flourish or they'll never make it.
tbh I'm up for the accelerationism of the Western animation industry. The sooner it crashes and burns, the sooner we can get some new blood to build it back up!

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Honestly is there any hope for the animation industry at all? (Ignore the Californians and Millennialism) but the medium as a whole? Is it dead and are we to claim or is the the nepotism of big corporations?

As long as the Internet stays online, you'll have aspiring animators uploading their work on platforms. Newgrounds has somehow managed to survive all this time and even got a small revival sometime in the past decade, so there's still hope yet.

 

[Stratorroz]

That's the one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHpk1hmfZ10

Similar scene from Close Enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ulF8NPFLo

Shit like this is so immensely corny. I remember a Korean animator went to Twitter to rant about how their job was being demeaned because of the Big City Greens joke but I can't find it anymore.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Shit like this is so immensely corny. I remember a Korean animator went to Twitter to rant about how their job was being demeaned because of the Big City Greens joke but I can't find it anymore.

Wait, "Western Animation" is relying on Korean studios, truly? I seriously thought this was a meme. Of course, maybe it is a "hyphenated" American too, but if that's the case, I apologise for not paying attention to the thread.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

Wait, "Western Animation" is relying on Korean studios, truly? I seriously thought this was a meme. Of course, maybe it is a "hyphenated" American too, but if that's the case, I apologise for not paying attention to the thread.

Dude keep up, animation has all been outsourced to Korea since the late 90's. Even Jap animation isn't animated in Japan anymore. Most studios just do the keyframes and some of the more important animation and ship the filler work to Seoul.

 

[xXthrowawayaccountXx]

Honestly is there any hope for the animation industry at all? (Ignore the Californians and Millennialism) but the medium as a whole? Is it dead and are we to claim or is the the nepotism of big corporations?

Traditional animation is dead, because big secret is every industry is always in a state of "dying" as studios are forced to adapt to how the world changes.

You will however absolutely hate the form it will eventually take. Because the way thing are shaping, skibidi toilet, digital circus and chikn nuggit are that future. The way it's currently shaping up favors smaller studios and projects that can exist on a youtube landscape and not the large companies that are slow to react and have only gotten more conservative and even dragged down by the expectations of their own animators.

 

[Chromeo]

Dude keep up, animation has all been outsourced to Korea since the late 90's. Even Jap animation isn't animated in Japan anymore. Most studios just do the keyframes and some of the more important animation and ship the filler work to Seoul.

Bugs the hell out of me how small creators have to do everything themselves and get compared to professionals who don't even do actual animation. Like of course a pro's work is faster/better, they have 50 asian slaves doing every little element of it for 2 bowls of rice a day. Then they get paid like $100,000 a year to sit around and bitch about the president on Twitter.

 

[Kabobs]

Wait, "Western Animation" is relying on Korean studios, truly? I seriously thought this was a meme. Of course, maybe it is a "hyphenated" American too, but if that's the case, I apologise for not paying attention to the thread.

The earliest cartoons outsourced to another country is Rocky and Bullwinkle and Underdog to Mexico. Since the 80s, American cartoons have been outsourced to Korea, Japan and Taiwan, but mostly Korea. Nowadays, American cartoons are also outsourced to Canadian studios.

Disney Animation Studio, Pixar and Dreamworks used to be the remaining studios to do their animation in-house but Disney and Dreamworks are now relying on outsourcing.

 

[Coolio55]

You will however absolutely hate the form it will eventually take. Because the way thing are shaping, skibidi toilet, digital circus and chikn nuggit are that future. The way it's currently shaping up favors smaller studios and projects that can exist on a youtube landscape and not the large companies that are slow to react and have only gotten more conservative and even dragged down by the expectations of their own animators.

Idk. Skibidi Toilet and Mitzi & Murphy are pretty keyed.
Hazbin Hotel at least *looks* good and isn't beanslop.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Dude keep up, animation has all been outsourced to Korea since the late 90's. Even Jap animation isn't animated in Japan anymore. Most studios just do the keyframes and some of the more important animation and ship the filler work to Seoul.

Damn, then I really am behind. I guess "Korean cartoons" really gets its name, huh?

The earliest cartoons outsourced to another country is Rocky and Bullwinkle and Underdog to Mexico. Since the 80s, American cartoons have been outsourced to Korea, Japan and Taiwan, but mostly Korea. Nowadays, American cartoons are also outsourced to Canadian studios.

Disney Animation Studio, Pixar and Dreamworks used to be the remaining studios to do their animation in-house but Disney and Dreamworks are now relying on outsourcing.

Interesting. Thank you.

Idk. Skibidi Toilet and Mitzi & Murphy are pretty keyed.
Hazbin Hotel at least *looks* good and isn't beanslop.

I'll say this, Trashbin Homotel, if it wasn't the faggot fujoshit it is, would be a great cartoon - considering its animation and artists.

 

[my penis is on fire]

I'll say this, Trashbin Homotel, if it wasn't the faggot fujoshit it is, would be a great cartoon - considering its animation and artists.

Makes me wonder, what does Vivziepop do that the beanmouthniggers don't? Given the absolute human waste that populates the industry, how has she managed to whip them into making something serviceable, while bigger studios with bigger budgets and more experienced management can't get their artslaves to produce anything memorable?

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Makes me wonder, what does Vivziepop do that the beanmouthniggers don't? Given the absolute human waste that populates the industry, how has she managed to whip them into making something serviceable, while bigger studios with bigger budgets and more experienced management can't get their artslaves to produce anything memorable?

Sadly, she made the tumblr sexyman crap. Yet, if you managed to make the characters "bulkier" and more "proportionate" in terms of body mass and coupled that with the animation (I guess), it would be pretty good, I feel.

And the Animation Industry is just on the same "monkey see monkey do", I figure.

 

[Coolio55]

Makes me wonder, what does Vivziepop do that the beanmouthniggers don't? Given the absolute human waste that populates the industry, how has she managed to whip them into making something serviceable, while bigger studios with bigger budgets and more experienced management can't get their artslaves to produce anything memorable?

My theory is that it's because she never had an exec breathing down her neck saying "How are people supposed to know it's for Adults if it doesn't look like Rick and Morty?" or "That's how cartoons look now. What's with all the outdated crap?".