Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

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Cyberpunk Meta said:
some newer cyberpunk works like Deus Ex do
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Now this is a good troll.

*remembers Deus Ex is now 25 years old*

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Cyberpunk Meta said:
I’ll make a counter argument: some newer cyberpunk works like Deus Ex do focus on the rise of China trope and the decline of America themes. Indeed for the 1980s, Japan was the big Asian power. Today it remains firmly China. China’s got so much influence that it’s rare to find a modern FPS game or even a cyberpunk video game in general with a Chinese villain. Maybe with the exception of Deus Ex Human Revolution from 2011 but that’s it.

Chinese firms like Tencent operate like ESG rackets. They’ll intervene if anti-CCP material is present in a video game. But Chinese propaganda will vilify Japan so if CDPR or any other developer wants to produce a new cyberpunk video game, making Japanese antagonists is more or less socially acceptable to Chinese investors. Honestly I’m shocked many gamers don’t point out how Beijing has infiltrated the largest entertainment industry over the last decade and used its economy to censor any anti China material in games.
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I dunno, Zenless Zone Zero and other Hoyo games don't seem to tar Japan (or its in-game fictional equivalents) in their titles.

There is a Chinese megacorp in CP2077 but I don't recall them having much presence, good or bad, beyond having goons in some minor side missions, and their branded smartgun weapons being part of the game's arsenal.

Also I wish there was a sticker that was "agree except where I disagree".
 
74164978231 said:
Now this is a good troll.

*remembers Deus Ex is now 25 years old*

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Trolling wasnt intended. Deus Ex is a product of the 21st century. It’s a cyberpunk franchise that feels more grounded in our world compared to Pondsmith’s cyberpunk which is a 1980s retro future. Deus Ex has always been focused on Government conspiracies and secret cabals running the show from the shadows. A cool premise considering what we’re living through right now.
GloryToArztotska said:
I dunno, Zenless Zone Zero and other Hoyo games don't seem to tar Japan (or its in-game fictional equivalents) in their titles.

There is a Chinese megacorp in CP2077 but I don't recall them having much presence, good or bad, beyond having goons in some minor side missions, and their branded smartgun weapons being part of the game's arsenal.

Also I wish there was a sticker that was "agree except where I disagree".
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In Cyberpunk 2077, the big bad guys are Arasaka (Japanese) and Militech (American). In game there’s a corporate Cold War between Arasaka & Militech. The base game is about dislodging Arasaka from Night City to fulfill Johnny’s petty revenge fantasies (and to save V’s life). Phantom Liberty is about working for Militech/NUS (almost the same thing really) but uncovering the fact that Militech are just as shitty/malevolent as Arasaka. Militech is the secondary villain to Arasaka in 2077, but Orion might make them the main villain, assuming that the events of 2079 (the ending of Phantom Liberty if you betray Songbird) confirm an Arasaka ouster. And based on all the other endings besides the Devil and Suicide endings, Arasaka does suffer a major defeat at the hands of V.
 
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Cyberpunk Meta said:
In Cyberpunk 2077, the big bad guys are Arasaka (Japanese) and Militech (American). In game there’s a corporate Cold War between Arasaka & Militech. The base game is about dislodging Arasaka from Night City to fulfill Johnny’s petty revenge fantasies (and to save V’s life). Phantom Liberty is about working for Militech/NUS (almost the same thing really) but uncovering the fact that Militech are just as shitty/malevolent as Arasaka. Militech is the secondary villain to Arasaka in 2077, but Orion might make them the main villain, assuming that the events of 2079 (the ending of Phantom Liberty if you betray Songbird) confirm an Arasaka ouster. And based on all the other endings besides the Devil and Suicide endings, Arasaka does suffer a major defeat at the hands of V.
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V is far from Arasaka's biggest problem since Yorinobu is still in charge unless you do the Devil ending, and he's just as committed to its destruction as he ever was, just from the inside and on top.

As he says to V right before Hanako shows up to slot Saburo's Relic chip in: "When bomb does not work, you must become bomb."
 
74164978231 said:
(makes you think why you dont see the same with China especially when China has shown genuine military ambition...
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Because China has money invested everywhere and they throw there toys out of the pram when if they feel insulted.

It‘s why you don’t have the media talk about what a danger those autistic little bug eaters are because they don’t want to deal with pisses shareholders or lose access to Chinese capital.
 
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GloryToArztotska said:
Tried starting another playthrough recently myself (this time a combat hacker since last times I had done a walking tank Solo and a squirrel-on-crack Mantis blade ninja) and decided to skip straight into the Phantom Liberty expansion.

Right off the bat Keanu Reeves' voice jars me out of my immersion, the porno editor Latina chica tells me her hooker girlfriend has gruesomely offed herself, and then the tranny dials me and asks if I want to do street races for "her".

The combat was fun but everything about the story is an ugly, fucktarded time capsule of the global zeitgeist of the past several years, and frankly I'm a little disappointed Mike Pondsmith hasn't disavowed it and said that at best it happened in broad strokes.
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cp77is straight up a bad game. you can get a better cyberpunk experience playing gamedec or that game with old rutger hauer on it
 
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Dammit Mandrake! said:
Including Keanu Reeves in the game may have been useful for marketing but in all other aspects it was a total failure and made the game worse. All I saw was a movie actor wandering around my game.
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I have to agree... I found the whole Johnny silver hand thing more annoying then anything. It was like having a man child pester me all game. All I wanted to do was take over the corporation and instead was railroaded into a burn it to the ground story.
 
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Whiskey said:
I have to agree... I found the whole Johnny silver hand thing more annoying then anything. It was like having a man child pester me all game. All I wanted to do was take over the corporation and instead was railroaded into a burn it to the ground story.
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You sound like you have a YouTube channel that makes twenty videos a day about the new Snow White movie destroying the western world.
 
Dammit Mandrake! said:
Including Keanu Reeves in the game may have been useful for marketing but in all other aspects it was a total failure and made the game worse. All I saw was a movie actor wandering around my game.
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Whiskey said:
I have to agree... I found the whole Johnny silver hand thing more annoying then anything. It was like having a man child pester me all game. All I wanted to do was take over the corporation and instead was railroaded into a burn it to the ground story.
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I see this comment a lot but I can’t disagree more. I loved Johnny in the game and honestly forget it’s Keanu Reeves most of the time, I feel like it’s one of his best roles he’s done in any media. It is just Keanu doing the one mode he has, but I think it works well for Silverhand as a bitter, self-absorbed rockerboy coping with the fact he literally nuked Night City and the world just kept chugging along regardless of his actions. I don’t think I’d like the game as much as I do without Johnny or if he’d been played by somebody else.

Plus, it made the new Sonic movie especially entertaining for me as I could only hear Silverhand every time Shadow said anything.
 
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Chieftain Coke Peanut said:
I overall enjoyed Cyberpunk, but I was so fucking let down that they showed us Adam Smasher and a ton of other borged up people, only to let us not go full borg. Total bullshit. What cyberware we did get was pretty disappointing, you're telling me the best thing is slow motion and double jumps? All the Deus Ex games did it right ages ago.
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to be fair, its game accurate you cannot fully borg up because that just breaks the entire game. but by all means go into wemod, turn off the restrictions, get as many implants as you want that are the most jacked up op shit
 
bango skank said:
I see this comment a lot but I can’t disagree more. I loved Johnny in the game and honestly forget it’s Keanu Reeves most of the time, I feel like it’s one of his best roles he’s done in any media. It is just Keanu doing the one mode he has, but I think it works well for Silverhand as a bitter, self-absorbed rockerboy coping with the fact he literally nuked Night City and the world just kept chugging along regardless of his actions. I don’t think I’d like the game as much as I do without Johnny or if he’d been played by somebody else.

Plus, it made the new Sonic movie especially entertaining for me as I could only hear Silverhand every time Shadow said anything.
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I think it should of matched what V you started as. Corpo V's reasoning always felt a little off compared to the other two.

It didn't ruin the game but it felt more like they had to add a corpo rather then it fit the story.
 
Whiskey said:
I think it should have matched what V you started as. Corpo V's reasoning always felt a little off compared to the other two.

It didn't ruin the game but it felt more like they had to add a corpo rather then it fit the story.
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A lot of the game could have done better to incorporate your background. I can't remember the origins amounting to anything more than the occasional dialog option after the intro.
 
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Rick The Stick said:
A lot of the game could have done better to incorporate your background. I can't remember the origins amounting to anything more than the occasional dialog option after the intro.
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You get a unique side quest for each life path.

Street Kid gives you a mission for Kurt the guy who hires you to steal the car in the intro

Nomad gives you a showdowns during a drug hand-off between Maelstrom and Panam's Nomad clan.

Corpo let's you meet the dickhead who sells you out in the corporate intro.

They're all really short encounters being at most a few minutes long.
 
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