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There have been some handshake ceasefires, where the document came later or was so short/limited one wasn't needed. In any case, usually leading up to the ceasefire signing both sides wind down operations as a show of good faith. i.e. iirc a lot of the IRA/UK ceasefires were quietly agreed or the IRA saying "you don't kill anyone easter week and we won't kill anyone easter week, show your agreement by not killing anyone till next monday"As for the ceasefire, I don't remember seeing anything being officially agreed upon, which I would think requires signing some kinda document by both sides at least. You can't just go "Yeah we talked it out, it's totally a thing now" - pretty sure that's not how this works.
I also recall lot of the Syrian "evacuation corridor" ceasefires did not have an official document, but those were quick affairs and more between battlefield commanders and less governments. I cannot remember if the 4-day Othodox Christmas ceasefire (that Russia violated) from a few years ago had an official signed document.
Regardless, I'm pretty sure this is one case where due to the parties involved a verbal isn't going to cut it, and I would expect something as long as a 30-day ceasefire - especially one with so many possible loopholes - would need a signed document even if both sides weren't slavic.
I don't think this is an intel thing.It's really weird. I don't want to go "Oh, the Tzar doesn't know! The Boyars hide information from him" but it legitimately seems like Trump is getting reports that are very distorted. (Or to be very charitable (and not get accused of TDS), perhaps he has more intel than us and knows more).
Trump has a commitment from both sides, proceeds to puff it up to be more than it is and talks like its an actual signed document. (Many such cases. SAD!) And the media being worthless vultures run with it.
I also think its pretty clear Trump expected "the President of the US says there will be a ceasefire, you said you agreed, I don't care if the document is signed or not, you're going to stop
The Eternal Prussian ruins yet another nice thing.The reason for said legal battle was because Germany was one of the original member countries that signed the Saint Peters-burg Declaration of 1868, an antiquated but still around agreement that explosive projectiles weighing below 400 grams of weight couldn't be used