US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[The best and greatest]

Sorry man, but I'm not trying to be like Ethan Ralph, lol.

All the same he begs the question: If ralph can get laid and leave a legacy what's your excuse exactly?

 

[MirrorNoir]

So what's their reasoning again? You don't just jump out of a 2nd term election and let your vice president take the reign, then jump back on the podium role just like that.

He had his chance, why is he coming back for round 2?

Jill wants her power as first lady/Edith Wilson back, Obama wants revenge on Trump and knows Biden is the only hand puppet he can completely control, and TPTB probably are terrified at AOC running for President and/or have soured on Newsom after the fires and his attempt to pivot to the center pissing off the base.

 

[Velociraptor]

I said this before, yet banning certain foods outright immediately is a terrible idea if Trump wants good results in the midterms or a successor in 2028.

I struggle to find any statistics on this, but my intuition tells me that the majority of people who benefit from SNAP already vote straight Democrat anyways.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Well the best part is AoC is now thinking she's a shoo in for 2028.

And we thought we dodged a bullet avoiding Kamala...

But if AOC ran against Vance it's hard to imagine Vance losing. AOC being the first female President is a bigger insult to women than Kamala being the first female President. Imagine President AOC and VP Jasmine Crockett

 

[behindyourightnow]

AOC is a plant of some kind. I don't know what group or agency is backing her but when she was elected to congress she was working as a bartender and less than a week later was wearing 200k necklaces to DC fundraisers.

The "just a bartender" narrative was fake. All throughout AOC's college career she was clearly following the CIA/USAID "let's groom photogenic young minorities for political careers" pathway, complete with international scholarships and interning for Ted Kennedy. And then, suddenly, she was out on her ass working as a bartender and waitress.

I think AOC's handlers told her to slum it for a while so that she could establish a plausible "everyman" persona and narrative, and so that the grooming pathway would look less obvious. Then they concocted a story about her brother secretly nominating her in a competition (the "casting call" @XYZpdq Jr. was referring to) which randomly and fortuitously launched her political career.

It's important to recognize all this, because it explains the way she acts now. AOC knows that the establishment is responsible for her success, and that they can take it away if she steps too far out of line, and this is why there are always lines she absolutely will not cross. She's the old establishment with a new "sassy young Latina" coat of paint.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

I struggle to find any statistics on this, but my intuition tells me that the majority of people who benefit from SNAP already vote straight Democrat anyways.

Yes and no. There are poor white people too. Lots of poor whites voted for Trump in Penn South Carolina and GA. Snap creates a wealth cliff trap where making more money makes you poorer unless you can hop a wealth cliff.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Apparently, Trump is “crying for the SCOTUS to help him after being ripped apart by the court”.

Apparently.

 

[tehpope]

The "just a bartender" narrative was fake. All throughout AOC's college career she was clearly following the CIA/USAID "let's groom photogenic young minorities for political careers" pathway, complete with international scholarships and interning for Ted Kennedy. And then, suddenly, she was out on her ass working as a bartender and waitress.

I think AOC's handlers told her to slum it for a while so that she could establish a plausible "everyman" persona and narrative, and so that the grooming pathway would look less obvious. Then they concocted a story about her brother secretly nominating her in a competition (the "casting call" @XYZpdq Jr. was referring to) which randomly and fortuitously launched her political career.

It's important to recognize all this, because it explains the way she acts now. AOC knows that the establishment is responsible for her success, and that they can take it away if she steps too far out of line, and this is why there are always lines she absolutely will not cross. She's the old establishment with a new "sassy young Latina" coat of paint.

Maybe. Or she was "slumming" it because she had rich parents who would bail her out if anything actually happened to her. There is overlap between rich people and the cia.

 

[DickMain]

I don't really think there can be "another Obama". The luster of "first BLACK president" is gone, and the post-Trump GOP isn't going to willfully be controlled opposition with intentional throw candidates like McCain and Romney.

We're talking about the party that has to invent things to pat themselves on the back for, the blue ribbon party. "First black president SINCE Obama!" is not out of the realm of possibility.

 

[Velociraptor]

Yes and no. There are poor white people too. Lots of poor whites voted for Trump in Penn South Carolina and GA. Snap creates a wealth cliff trap where making more money makes you poorer unless you can hop a wealth cliff.

Don't take it the wrong way, I wasn't saying "only blacks get welfare", just that the majority of recipients probably already vote Democrat.
I know poor whites exist, I have a few in my family, but the question for them turns into "would banning SNAP from buying Soda flip their vote?", and if it does, would those votes be enough to swing an election?

We're talking about the party that has to invent things to pat themselves on the back for, the blue ribbon party. "First black president SINCE Obama!" is not out of the realm of possibility.

Yeah, but "would that make anybody else care?" is the question. And the answer is almost certainly not.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Did you see the polling from Newsom's podcast? Where he tried to reform his image to seem more moderate? The Left fucking turned hard against him for talking to figures from the Right, it either didn't move the needle or made center and right likedhim less than before.

Newsom is fucking cooked on the national level, he at best can hope to take his Aunt's House Seat.

Now I'm not saying that the Dems WON'T still go with him, but if they do with this evidence, they are worse off than even the most giddiest of us could imagine.

As depressing as it is that's their best ticket. Newsom isn't going to play second fiddle to anyone and Cortez has name recognition as well while being in the Harris seat.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

Don't take it the wrong way, I wasn't saying "only blacks get welfare", just that the majority of recipients probably already vote Democrat.
I know poor whites exist, I have a few in my family, but the question for them turns into "would banning SNAP from buying Soda flip their vote?", and if it does, would those votes be enough to swing an election?


Yeah, but "would that make anybody else care?" is the question. And the answer is almost certainly not.

maybe limiting the amount of soda would go over better?

 

[Crescent Fresh]

Don't take it the wrong way, I wasn't saying "only blacks get welfare", just that the majority of recipients probably already vote Democrat.
I know poor whites exist, I have a few in my family, but the question for them turns into "would banning SNAP from buying Soda flip their vote?", and if it does, would those votes be enough to swing an election?

The issue is not so much the people who already vote, it’s those who basically don’t care about all this politics bullshit until suddenly it notably affects their daily lives. As dumb as it may sound, outright banning junk food would function as a tangible change in their everyday lives, and a negative one for many. Is it an objectively good idea? Of course! Subjectively, are you going to have a bunch of people who previously didn’t care suddenly interested in giving their vote to anyone able to fix this tangible issue? Also of course! It’s a literal “bread and circuses” deal.

maybe limiting the amount of soda would go over better?

This could be a better way to go about it, instead of banning them outright, say, “all junk food, can only make up a certain percentage of your SNAP”. It’d go over better than outright banning the items.

 

[DickMain]

There's one actress in particular I know that was very vocal about her liberal status: Bette Joan Perske.

Of course she was born a hundred years ago. Can you fuck off with this gimmick and just hit up a retirement home already if you're that hard up? You might as well be a furry or a discord tranny where I can't get through a single post of yours without being reminded that, yes, you want to fuck grandmas.

 

[Breadbassket]

The issue is not so much the people who already vote, it’s those who basically don’t care about all this politics bullshit until suddenly it notably affects their daily lives. As dumb as it may sound, outright banning junk food would function as a tangible change in their everyday lives, and a negative one for many. Is it an objectively good idea? Of course! Subjectively, are you going to have a bunch of people who previously didn’t care suddenly interested in giving their vote to anyone able to fix this tangible issue? Also of course!

Maybe there needs to be some kind of benefit made for SNAP in order to soften the potential blow of having soda purchases being restricted? Apparently they it can't be used to buy foods that are hot at the point of sale or medicines, vitamins and supplements. Perhaps something could be done with that.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

Maybe there needs to be some kind of benefit made for SNAP in order to soften the potential blow of having soda purchases being restricted? Apparently they it can't be used to buy foods that are hot at the point of sale or medicines, vitamins and supplements. Perhaps something could be done with that.

The issue there is dumb faggots would just buy like a week of fast food and be out of it for the rest of the month, which is basically why it’s not allowed to begin with.

I think the earlier suggested idea of not banning it, yet limiting it would go over much better. Sure, you can still buy whichever soda you want… yet junk food as a whole can only make up a certain % of your monthly SNAP benefits.

 

[DickMain]

Maybe there needs to be some kind of benefit made for SNAP in order to soften the potential blow of having soda purchases being restricted? Apparently they it can't be used to buy foods that are hot at the point of sale or medicines, vitamins and supplements. Perhaps something could be done with that.

You know what you can do with SNAP? Restrict it so here's what you can buy: fresh/frozen chicken, ground beef, veggies and fruit (fresh and frozen), rice, beans, eggs, milk, butter, and spices. If you cannot figure out anything to do with any of these then you are beyond saving, and your problem isn't being broke; it's being lazy. Probably add flour to this, and maybe bread/cheese/sandwich meats.

You want your ice cream? Buy it with your own earned cash. Soda, candy, frozen pizzas and similar crap? Buy it yourself. Anybody arguing "SNAP recipients don't deserve to live on flavorless gruel they deserve nice things too" are just lazy niggers who never learned how to cook a decent meal in their lives. No, you shouldn't be blowing my money on twenty dollar steaks to maintain some imaginary standard of living that apparently only comes with the finest New York strips.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

I cannot back AOC in any way since the first time I saw her speak and realized that she's like a preschool teacher addressing some three year olds. The big-BIG eyes, the nodding, the cadence of her speech. She thinks she's talking to children or particularly bright animals, and I find that offensive.

I noticed this same affect from Tucker Carlson when he was on Fox News and I never liked him as a result.

There are plenty of retards on both sides of the aisle. I think it's a mistake to paint our opponents as 100% morons, "uneducated", etc. There are some very clever people on both sides who are manipulating the masses. The masses themselves are pretty dumb for continually falling for it, but they're not calling the shots.

At this point, I tend to mistrust ANYONE who paints situations in an overly emotional fashion, or lectures like they're talking to kindergarteners. What they are doing is tugging on the leash and manipulating the gullible on their side of the aisle for their own benefit. They talk like that because they're not interested in rational thinking people and that's not their core audience. With AOC, it's dangerhairs, lgbtqwtfbbq, vote-blue-no-matter who goblins. With Tucker, it's boomer conservatives, Evangelicals, and Q-tards.

 

[The Last Stand]

You know what you can do with SNAP? Here's what you can buy: fresh/frozen chicken, ground beef, veggies and fruit (fresh and frozen), rice, beans, eggs, milk, butter, and spices. If you cannot figure out anything to do with any of these then you are beyond saving, and your problem isn't being broke; it's being lazy.

I'd buy frozen veggies over fresh. The shelf life is longer and the nutrients stay locked in.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

You know what you can do with SNAP? Restrict it so here's what you can buy: fresh/frozen chicken, ground beef, veggies and fruit (fresh and frozen), rice, beans, eggs, milk, butter, and spices. If you cannot figure out anything to do with any of these then you are beyond saving, and your problem isn't being broke; it's being lazy. Probably add flour to this, and maybe bread/cheese/sandwich meats.

You want your ice cream? Buy it with your own earned cash. Soda, candy, frozen pizzas and similar crap? Buy it yourself.

bro stole my idea but I respect it. also, cookware as well maybe? and i'd add peanut butter and jelly perhaps