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. Everyone was slightly surprised by this, but he was easy pickings
he shouldn't have been, the democrats 8 years ago were as frazzled as they are now which is why they were caught off guard and had a key player primaried. they should have looked at literally any poll done and seen how fucked they were, but they didn't until it was too late. the fact that a 10 term democrat could be primaried by some latina woman with such few campaign funds it wouldn't even buy you a luxury car should have set off the warning signals about where the democratic party is going. the fact that any of these assholes could be primaried is another shocking thing, but makes sense when you realize how quickly demographics change in 20 years in a place like New York City. I'm sure even the man himself would have been shocked if you told him back in 2002 that the democrats would hate white dudes as much as they do to the point where the voters would prefer being represented by J-lo vs himself
I'm just saying high schools were doing sweeney todd twenty years ago and johnny depp was in the movie what's his face the cuck directed with alan rickman
it is sort of crazy the sort of musicals high schools do, they've always been very "high concept" and stuff like Sweeney todd being a normal thing for high school theater kids to put on is slightly nutty, i remember they also did rent too around me decades ago.
This is just more confirmation of my hypothesis that all leftists are mentally stuck in the 1980s Satanic panic and will never join us in the reality of the present.
I've made this observation before but the left seems to mainly be people that went to high school in the reagan era and thats for the guys up top, the "ones in the field" as it were are made up of people who still think its 2012 in terms of online culture. like in 2028, you'll have the democrats nominating someone with the same politics as people's dads (aka people who went to high school in the reagan era) whereas the RNC will be nominating Vance who at minimum has enough meme magic and internet clout to connect with people.
Now you fart the wrong way and people accuse you of bigotry.
and you can blame mel and the jews for that
 
AOC is a plant of some kind. I don't know what group or agency is backing her but when she was elected to congress she was working as a bartender and less than a week later was wearing 200k necklaces to DC fundraisers.
I'm pretty sure her family is well off. She's not Sandy from the Bronx. She lived in a gated community growing up.

Tucker did a segment on her years ago mentioning this shit.

edit: I can't find the whole thing. But here's a bit from it. I think.
 
Apparently, a fatwa has been issued to MAGA shill accounts on behalf of BIG SODA to post in favor of keeping soda in food stamps—for seemingly no reason. Some pretty big accounts are involved (and also Ian Miles Cheong, too), and allegedly, they're paying up to $1,000 per shill
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It's not "anti-liberty" to demand that the people STEALING MY FUCKING MONEY allegedly to "survive" forgo certain things like SODA AND JUNK FOOD and keep it only to essentials.
 
I walked past a Taco Bell that allowed SNAP last week, and I'm pretty sure McDonald's does too.
A gas station near me takes it for pizza. To skirt around the hot food eligibility you have to pay for the pizza before they cook it. As long as they're cooking it after you order it's probably fine? I guess even if they have stuff sitting around ready-made they can just have the system flag it to be cooked fresh once the order comes in if you pay that way
 
I don't really think there can be "another Obama". The luster of "first BLACK president" is gone, and the post-Trump GOP isn't going to willfully be controlled opposition with intentional throw candidates like McCain and Romney.

by another Obama I just meant a popular charismatic Democrat instead of more Biden's and AOC's, Pelosi's, Jefferies's and Schumer's. Fuck the Democrats are chocked full of unlikable assholes at the moment.

Right now the single biggest issue facing the Dems is that they have no leader, no charismatic person to rally the base. The DNC is absolutely chocked full of angry she-boons, leftist harridans and moronic soy boy's. There is zero there for the average voters to grab on to. Sure they got the Progressive vote locked down tight but they've always had that vote in the bag so aligning your whole party to it at the cost of everything else is fucking insane.

Like how they are attacking that troon for daring to suggest that maybe possible the Democrats shouldn't be so fast to kick people out for disagreeing with the party line. A fucking troon is saying this and the knives still come out because the Proggies won't budge a single bloody millimetre on anything no matter how much it kills the party as a whole.

This is the bit that gives me hope. The Proggressives have a death grip on the Democrats and they are completely unable to compromise or do anything really beside make demands and threats to anyone who disagrees with them no matter how weak their position is. Like now where the Democratic polling is in the fucking toilet yet anyone daring to even suggest changing is attacked and expelled. If they Moderate Dems can't wrest control from the insane Lefties they will have no choice but to break away as they know that America definitely does not want what the Proggies are selling and to continue to be part of that means more GoP domination.

So yah as I see it unless the Dems get a Trump like figure to grab the party by the pussy and forcibly reset the narrative they will keep losing as they just don't reflect the shifting American values. The pendulum is swinging but the Proggies just cannot admit that nor can they adjust, what passes for their value system simply won't allow them too. To admit they are not right is to admit to not being perfect, to not being the envitable course of histroy.

Not they are never wrong, it's the people who have been tricked or fooled or are just stupid and evil.

There is nothing more dangerous in this world then moral certanity. It has caused more death and destruction then any other human trait. Once your 100% certain you are right then any concept of evil can be justifed because your "on the right side of herstory".
 
Are developmentally retarded or sth (edit: probably just brown tbh)? You talk like learning English was some kind of challenge. English is not that hard bro, infact it's generally thought of as the easiest language in the world. I learned in third grade by accident.
Casual English is the easiest language by far, both because of how easy it is to string slurred words together and to have it make a modicum of sense thanks to a malleable structure (buffalo buffalo buffalo for example), and how it's so ubiquitous that it becomes hard NOT to understand at least a little bit of English to act as a base. However, it does get difficult the more proficient you want to be.

Learning """correct""" English is an absolute bitch and it's kinda why most school systems and programs across the world are either confusing, overly complicated, absolute hell, or have just given up when it comes to teaching English. I don't begrudge ESL posters for having a bad comprehension of English since it's convoluted and contradictive, especially compared to so many other languages being much more strict.

Anyhows the guy's English is fine, infinitely better than whatever alphiggers believe is communication.
 
Musk says he's gonna sue Jamal "Fire Alarm" Bowman for calling him a Nazi and a thief.

Bowman made the comments on CNN, which could possibly draw the network into the lawsuit too.

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They're going to argue that "nazi" no longer has a definition other than "bad person, not of our political tribe." And with the right lefty judge, it might work. Remember, these are the guys who redefined racism so that their pet blacks can NEVER be racist and all White people are ALWAYS racist. Post-Modernists do not care about the definition of words, they just want the word-weapons to harm you, silence you, and shift the power dynamics.

Actual question, if inmigration causes crime, why are current studies skewed to say otherwise? Is it faulty methodology, or the statistics themselves are cooked?
Lefty dogma is such that brown people are innocent soulful saints that are always, inherently, as good or better than Whites. In addition White nations must always, without fail, retool themselves into support networks for nonwhites, which means bringing in as many nonwhites as humanly possible, as this is the burden White people must bear for our unforgivable original sin -- being White and having a base level of competence.

If you're not in the bubble, you realize that means they must think White people are better than nonwhites but White people are evil and owe the rest of the world a free ride. You'll also note that these types almost universally do not live amongst immigrants, in fact the first time any of these fucks actually balked at infinity migrants was when the red states started bussing them to blue states. "We want infinity immigrants but WE shouldn't have to pay for it, we already ARE diverse (we hire a black driver and have a latinx garnder working in our HOA) -- YOU should pay for them, as penance for not being part of our tribe!"

That's where the studies come from. I am the Gibs of my soul: Infinity Immigrant Works is reliant on propaganda designed to sell the idea to those who already agree with it. It's not mean to persuade anyone (although that's a nice side effect if they can get it to work) it's designed to obfuscate the issue, silence any critics, and ultimately slow down the debate to effectively not happen so the current status quo -- infinity immigrants -- stays.

You'll note they never even consider the idea of STOPPING the Infinity Immigrants while they do studies (although if you want to build some factory somewhere they'll force you to stop for 20-30 years while they study rare bugs in the area) or what have you. They set up the current status quo and prevent any future debate, while also sliding things to their own beliefs whenever possible.

For another example of this, look at anything to do with transsexuals. It's a "settled science" and any discussion about it will be at best prevented outright, but if they can't prevent it outright they'll use their infinite amount of bullshit studies to obfuscate and slow down any discussion or debate to hold the current status quo -- "let me talk your son into chopping his own dick off without telling you" -- forever.

It's kind a rhetorical version of a zip tie. You can click one way, but at best you can only hold things still when trying to go the other direction.

Honestly, if I were in charge of SNAP, i'd keep it to the basics: Meats (no T bone's or porterhouses, keep it to frozen/raw chicken, ground beef, etc), fruits, veggies, water, (Gatorade maybe?), breads, beans/staples, and seasonings. If you wanna buy Krave (a personal favorite of mine) or Pop Tarts or whatever, use your own money, but SNAP is only for the essentials to survive on. Also, yearly (if not quarterly) updates of income, etc
But the problem is that's not the ultimate goal of SNAP. Not anymore. It's not meant to keep people from starving. It's meant to keep niggers fat and happy so they don't cause even more problems. If you tried to reform it they'd come out of the woodworks to lose their shit at you. (I'm also pretty sure a lot of that junk food is literally chemically addictive and we'd see a bunch of tweaking carb junkies who already have poor impulse control if they cut them off.)

As someone mentioned earlier, it's also probably a huge giveaway to big food. As mentioned even earlier, people sell SNAP benefits by "buying" and returning junk food from shady convenience stores in big cities -- nuking the junk food would end that process right quick.

To put it a nicer way, as I'm sure they would -- "the minimum acceptable standard we expect people to suffer through just because they're too lazy to work has increased since the ancient days of 'cooking your own food'." Also, the niggers burned down or looted dry all the grocery stores a few years ago in one of the seasonal chimpouts and now the only place to eat is fast food and junk food from convenience stores.
 
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It's not "anti-liberty" to demand that the people STEALING MY FUCKING MONEY allegedly to "survive" forgo certain things like SODA AND JUNK FOOD and keep it only to essentials.
WIC and SNAP should be melded together into a single program.

You get a specific list of things and specific amounts of things you can buy.
 
If Hollywood types just said "yeah, we're liberal, go fuck yourself," they would get less pushback.
There's one actress in particular I know that was very vocal about her liberal status: Bette Joan Perske. Not a Communist, just anti-Republican.


I know there were other liberal actresses for their time, but Bacall is the only person I know of that vocally expressed her political beliefs as she aged. I wouldn't care if she was a staunch Republican like Jane Russell, her grace showed up from the silver screen to her personal life.
 
Again I ask what would killing trump really accomplish?
So you kill trump, then Vance becomes president, Vance and the other Republicans will use this as an excuse to purge the internet, and even society at large. This event will cause normies to become apprehensive of the left, and they will loose all political power in the country. Killing Trump would make him a martyr and give the rest of his team the perfect reason to go all in.
You may be sitting there thinking "These people can't be that stupid right?"

Yes, they really are that stupid. These people know nothing about history that wasn't force-fed down their throats in history class. You would say the words "Ides of March" and they will stare at you blankly. I would bet you my right nut they haven't opened up a single history book outside of class, this is of course implying they even read anything in the first place. At best, they have only read theory, and at worst they are just literal NPCs that repeat what others tell them via articles and fake news. Their historical "knowledge" extends to maybe as far back as WW2 which is why they focus so much on Hitler. The only other history they "know" are things that push their agenda like the Age of Exploration and Colonialism. I would guess a good portion of them think that white people just sailed up and down Africa kidnapping random poor black people, instead of the historical reality they were sold by the local Kings and Chiefs.

This is why they fail to understand that assassinations of heads of state never go well, or really fix anything.

They are indeed so fucking stupid that they believe all of our current woes, and the current political climate is because of Trump. The idea that this is what "The People" actually wanted doesn't even register in their brains, they also are probably too retarded to realize that the populist movement won't just die off because you got rid of Orange Man. Don't get me wrong Trump is definitely the heavy lifter here, but if they wanted to stop his agenda they should've tried shooting him 8 years ago.

Now it's too late. Even if Trump goes JD comes in, and the exodus of moderates to the Trump camp pretty much ensures we will be dealing with American Right Wing Populism for a long long time. Thank God
 
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Again I ask what would killing trump really accomplish?
So you kill trump, then Vance becomes president, Vance and the other Republicans will use this as an excuse to purge the internet, and even society at large. This event will cause normies to become apprehensive of the left, and they will loose all political power in the country. Killing Trump would make him a martyr and give the rest of his team the perfect reason to go all in.
Everything past that first sentence is deranged wishful thinking. I agree that killing Trump would accomplish literally nothing good and perish the thought because it's barbaric but people don't normally respond to crackdowns by becoming falling in line even harder. You guys will never get St. Trump, I'm sorry this has to be a revelation for you.
 
I can absolutely see a Newsom/Cortez ticket in 2028.

Did you see the polling from Newsom's podcast? Where he tried to reform his image to seem more moderate? The Left fucking turned hard against him for talking to figures from the Right, it either didn't move the needle or made center and right likedhim less than before.

Newsom is fucking cooked on the national level, he at best can hope to take his Aunt's House Seat.

Now I'm not saying that the Dems WON'T still go with him, but if they do with this evidence, they are worse off than even the most giddiest of us could imagine.
 
Just out of curiosity do you use dd/mm/yyyy or mm/dd/yyyy? It varies from place to place and if you spend enough time on the internet you see both.
I do dd/mm/yyyy. This is the standard at most pharmacies.
There's one actress in particular I know that was very vocal about her liberal status: Bette Joan Perske. Not a Communist, just anti-Republican.


I know there were other liberal actresses for their time, but Bacall is the only person I know of that vocally expressed her political beliefs as she aged. I wouldn't care if she was a staunch Republican like Jane Russell, her grace showed up from the silver screen to her personal life.
The Dick Cavett Show was underrated, in my opinion. I miss old-school shows like this where people just talked. Even in that old debate between Thomas Sowell and Harriet Pilpel, both were being respectful, professional, and arguing their points rather than shrieking about bigotry or trying to get zingers in.
 
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