Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity? - Most likely the answer will be = NO

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Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity?

Gentlemen, it's good to see you here bright and early as always.

Now, let's get down to business shall we, as I'm sure you are all aware as of the mid 20th century it has become a common occurrence to shame males for being virgins.

This causes men to lie about their experiences in life so that they aren't looked down on by their peers and socially ostracized.

The average virginity rate in males has risen to an all time high and so you have large numbers of men that feel like they have a dark secret to hide.

The solution would be to have a return to traditions (usually coming from faith) whereby virginity is held as sacred and should be held until one has a soulmate.

What information do you have to impart on this situation?

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men cant even be virgins 🙄
That is correct. I have no idea why this trope emerged other than "it's not me it's you" social reversal.
Men don't have hymen and also don't shit out a kid or get pregnant and become a burden.
From society's debt aspect it's moot point if men get sex or not.
 
That is correct. I have no idea why this trope emerged other than "it's not me it's you" social reversal.
Men don't have hymen and also don't shit out a kid or get pregnant and become a burden.
From society's debt aspect it's moot point if men get sex or not.
Virgin means "never had sex". The hymen is just an easy tell for women never having had sex. People get cosmetic surgeries to try and "re-virgin" themselves which is rightfully laughed at because you can't walk back from having had sex even if you try to erase the evidence.
 
Women do have soft skin don't they?
Holy shit that made my skin crawl.
I don't think women do high fives or like to be touched. They are usually very careful not to get too close.
Yeah I fuckin' wonder why.
You're doing that thing where you take something which is happening to yourself and assume it must apply to everyone. While it's true that it isn't happening just to you and there are other dysgenic freaks such as yourself that don't have talent or charisma to fall back on, most men are capable of compensating for a lack of certain traits.
You said something about women being able to spot genetics at a glance. I'm not sure how true that is but they do have a sixth sense which has been developed over billions of years to identify sexual predators. If you're cumming in your pants at the mere thought of a woman's touch I'm willing to bet you're giving off signals that tell women that you're going to skin them alive. Basic bitches on TikTok have identified this instinct as "the ick".
I'd tell you to reexamine your life but you've made it pretty clear throughout our interactions that introspection is an undiscovered country for you. So I think I'm gonna stop talking in circles with you both in this thread and the other and just sit back and wait for the eventual thread or police report.
 
Which is irrelevant as one male can impregnate entire planet. It's like shaming an oak tree for not having apples. Irrelevant outside the context of social "leveling". 99% of males are just grass in the field.
This is possibly the shortest and nightmarish pseudo-intellectual support of incest I've seen in a while.
 
@Spiny Rumples It's easy to have rage in the teens and 20s because that is when your drive to be with a woman is most strong, once you hit the 30s it dies down and you don't care so much. I have hope that soon I'll not care at all about women, it will like an irritating voice suddenly gone from my mind.
Don't get me wrong. It's super frustrating. But I think it's better than the alternative, meaningless fading pleasure that makes any romance ring more hollow.
Reasons to have casual sex:
  • Instincts compel it.
  • Experience in bed and with relationships gives skills and context (level up).
  • Caring less about sex and scoring with women over time makes women think you're more confident (stakes feel lower, easier to relax and take the lead, "confidence" = rejection doesn't hurt if success doesn't matter much either).
  • Lose your virginity.
Reasons not to have casual sex:
  • Potential for messy one-sided attraction from you or her after.
  • Potential for STI's and pregnancies.
  • Caring less about sex and scoring with women over time makes sexual relationships less meaningful to you (my guess, it's hard to get a clear answer out of people on this topic).
  • Lose your virginity.
Women do have soft skin don't they?
No, that's the opposite of what I said. Some women do and some women don't. Some women feel good to the touch and some uncomfortable, in my experience. I suspect that your imagined version of reality doesn't line up with how you/your body would react in real life. My preferences IRL don't line up with my preferences in porn, I've found.
I don't think women do high fives or like to be touched. They are usually very careful not to get too close.
Differs from culture to culture, but I doubt that she will be crying at home that night about how some guy offered her a high-five. If you care that much about doing it "morally," I guess just look in the mirror and see if you look like the kinda guy you would high five if he offered it on the street (or after chatting with for a few minutes in a cafe or something). But the stakes are low, if they accept or reject it doesn't mean anything.
Why did it have to be you that organized most things though, did you have the personality type for it?
I don't know. I have learned this from painful experience. No logic or morals apply, but experimental observation beats the hypotheses, right?
Just make sure it is an event that you would want to go to too. Women (and people in general, by more woman) are like cats, in that they're generally skittish and defensive, but if you relax and get comfortable first they can sense that and feel less stressed themselves.
I've not got any women I know to try practicing talking to someone I don't find attractive, that is a good tip though.
Well maybe some day you'll find someone you aren't very attracted to. :dove:
Huh, he takes pictures of their dogs and uploads it??
Hell yeah. He isn't attractive either (I think, but I can't rate guys' looks that well). He started with the pro photography skills & experience petting dogs and then he made a goal tot to tackle his social anxiety by doing daily reps.
Any pub i've been too has been a place where you get a table with your family and everyone sticks to their own groups, I've never seen a place where people freely intermingle.
Ah, British? I'm over in America so different things to do. Maybe rock climbing, art, meitheal (or is that just Irish?), fishing, church?

While it's true that it isn't happening just to you and there are other dysgenic freaks such as yourself that don't have talent or charisma to fall back on, most men are capable of compensating for a lack of certain traits.
You said something about women being able to spot genetics at a glance. I'm not sure how true that is but they do have a sixth sense which has been developed over billions of years to identify sexual predators. If you're cumming in your pants at the mere thought of a woman's touch
On this topic, but I think you could consider that women aren't objectively great decision makers who all have excellent senses. Some people, including women, have bad taste or are making quick judgement calls. Just keep in mind what they're (maybe unconsciously) using to make those judgement calls:
  • Are you well-groomed, not smelly, wearing shoes? = Physically and mentally healthy enough.
  • Were you just chatting casually with someone? Does that person look okay? = Able to chat comfortably with others.
  • Are you closed or open in your body language? Closed resembles an MMA stance. Open opens yourself up to a gut or throat punch undefended. = Are you guarded and ready to fight, or are you unguarded because you don't expect to be attacked (trusting) or can shrug off hits easily (badass).
  • Do you seem anxious or like you're aiming the conversation somewhere = "Are you trying to get me to buy something?" High motivation for unknown motive is sus. If you have a goal, say it plainly so they can respond. i.e. "Excuse me, I'm collecting 2 high fives a day to work on my social anxiety. High five? (after a second or so) yay/alright. Got any tips that you think would help me going forward?"

That's all I've got for now. It got me to the level of having multiple friend groups and social skills. Just keep in mind that there is a lot of bullshit and lies out there, from all walks of life, so practical experience leads to the truth that can be found in your local area.
 
Does anyone actually make pot pie in a pot? I like the idea of it but haven't seen it in reality. Only seen microwave pies or restaurant soup-with-a-side-of-crust.
The "pot" is your pie tin, I think. Or maybe "pot roast ." Now I have to go down a rabbit hole of culinary joy. Thanks.
 
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This is possibly the shortest and nightmarish pseudo-intellectual support of incest I've seen in a while.
Which is irrelevant as one male can impregnate entire planet. It's like shaming an oak tree for not having apples. Irrelevant outside the context of social "leveling". 99% of males are just grass in the field.
Yeah, weren't you arguing that retards should be killed in a different thread? It sounds like you want incest so that it will create more retards that you can murder.
 
This is possibly the shortest and nightmarish pseudo-intellectual support of incest I've seen in a while.
Yeah, weren't you arguing that retards should be killed in a different thread? It sounds like you want incest so that it will create more retards that you can murder.
If only wry wrangler were still with us...
 
The "pot" is your pie tin, I think. Or maybe "pot roast ." Now I have to go down a rabbit hole of culinary joy. Thanks.
I guess something disposable would save time scrubbing the baked-on bits. I think I'll try it with a casserole dish or something smooth like that some day. Might stick a ton but might keep it warm longer.
Also sorry for bringing that up here. I got kinda focused on writing and just kept chatting after posting.
Thoughts and prayers going down that rabbit hole.
 
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Yeah, weren't you arguing that retards should be killed in a different thread? It sounds like you want incest so that it will create more retards that you can murder.
I know you aren't good with math but daily sperm production is so great that a single male can fertilize the eggs of all the women in the world in a single month.

And for rest of you not biologically inclined, you only need 80-250 males for a complete "it's not inbreeding if we do it right" cycle.
 
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I know you aren't good with math but daily sperm production is so great that a single male can fertilize the eggs of all the women in the world in a single month.

And for rest of you not biologically inclined, you only need 80-250 males for a complete "it's not inbreeding if we do it right" cycle.
Yeah if you dehumanize the human experience down to basic numbers of production and don't take account International travel time, money, misfires/blanks and SO MANY OTHER FACTORS you can make retarded takes like this. Every single Woman isn't just gonna let some rando going around impregnate every one of them either, that's fucking retarded.

Also go see what the "not inbreeding if we do it right" types turned out like, it ain't pretty lmao.
 
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Yeah if you dehumanize the human experience down to basic numbers of production and don't take account International travel time, money, misfires/blanks and SO MANY OTHER FACTORS you can make retarded takes like this. Every single Woman isn't just gonna let some rando going around impregnate every one of them either, that's fucking retarded.

Also go see what the "not inbreeding if we do it right" types turned out like, it ain't pretty lmao.
You are completely missing the point.
 
I know you aren't good with math but daily sperm production is so great that a single male can fertilize the eggs of all the women in the world in a single month.

And for rest of you not biologically inclined, you only need 80-250 males for a complete "it's not inbreeding if we do it right" cycle.
I'm sorry, but the math you do on the napkin at your job as a gas station clerk isn't gonna cut it, sweetie.

I think that you chose your whale avatar very well, since you definitely also weigh several tons and have the intelligence of a teenager.
 
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