Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity? - Most likely the answer will be = NO

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity?

Gentlemen, it's good to see you here bright and early as always.

Now, let's get down to business shall we, as I'm sure you are all aware as of the mid 20th century it has become a common occurrence to shame males for being virgins.

This causes men to lie about their experiences in life so that they aren't looked down on by their peers and socially ostracized.

The average virginity rate in males has risen to an all time high and so you have large numbers of men that feel like they have a dark secret to hide.

The solution would be to have a return to traditions (usually coming from faith) whereby virginity is held as sacred and should be held until one has a soulmate.

What information do you have to impart on this situation?


We should not follow Dionysus to the forest clearing

 

[The Last Stand]

What can you do that no else can? What will it take to get to have those talents?

I can't say being another race because DEI/affirmative action is decaying away. Another certification may help.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

So you have to act like you are not really that interested if you want to get them interested in you like some kind of weird game of backgammon

You have to not act like a pathetic, empty husk that will cling to a woman to fill the void in your soul. It's repulsive.

If you actually want a relationship read The Four Loves, at least the chapters on romantic love and friendship.

But you won't because they you can't feel sorry for yourself

 

[The Lawgiver]

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Of course you're not going to get laid if you dont even talk to them, dumbass.

If you go into convos with people with the express intent of getting laid you're gonna have a bad time, too.

The Four Loves,

Ah yes...
The four government mandated loves.

 

[Tablet County]

Ah yes...
The four government mandated loves.

This was a flashbang of cringe and I hope you know I hate you for this.

 

[DankSmoker]

If you go into convos with people with the express intent of getting laid you're gonna have a bad time, too.

Still gonna have a better time than silently malding about it.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Still gonna have a better time than silently malding about it.

Nah, that's how you end up with attraction signs. It's still funny to watch from the sidelines, though!

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

I don't know what else to tell you but that you're just wrong, sorry to say. It's more than likely that you're seeing your own life swirling the drain and in your desperation to explain it you've adopted this insane cope that it isn't just your life that sucks, but everyone's. Based on your posts and how impressionable you seem to be you're very clearly a bell-curved individual. You lost the genetic lottery not in looks but in intelligence, because if you had any wit about you then you'd be able to fix your life.
I can only reiterate that you should go to church or seek out some kind of spirituality, because you clearly don't have the je ne sais quoi to find life beautiful on its own. Also the women who become tradwives go to church, so there's that.
Lower your standards and settle for a homely but certifiably white bitch with a solid personality and have kids with her, thereby doing your part for the white race while also experiencing the joys of intimacy.
If you would rather make excuses to continue feeling like a victim instead of seeking out practical solutions to your misery, then I can't help you. Suffer briefly but intensely to stave off long-term suffering, or continue wallowing in your own self-pity so I can keep making fun of you until the day you either expire or choose to abridge the agony McNutt-style.

My life has been swirling down the drain for at least 15 years, and a large reason for this is the fall of the west.

I may not be good looking or the smartest but I clearly must have some wisdom as I'm generally quite on point with my observations.

So, you're a mid 30s low level computer janitor that never accuried any higher level certs nor degrees and you're past the window to get on the track for the high pay and badass IT jobs. Buddy, that's not the Jews fault.

Yes I'm a helpdesk faggot in my mid 30s. I hate IT, I have no interest in getting more certs or climbing the ladder, my only goal in life is to escape the wage cage and be free. It is the Jews fault that I live in a world where money is all that matters.

Understood. I work in IT too, have been for a couple years. I'm younger than him. Now you had ME concerned about this career path.

You should be concerned. IT is dead. All IT jobs are being consolidated to a small group of cloud and service contractors. That of course are hiring only trannies and blacks as part of the Jewish ESG/DEI mandates. And that constantly cause outages because they don't know what they are doing. Get the hell out while you still can. I got made redundant at my last job as we get replaced by contractors.

You have to not act like a pathetic, empty husk that will cling to a woman to fill the void in your soul. It's repulsive.

If you actually want a relationship read The Four Loves, at least the chapters on romantic love and friendship.

But you won't because they you can't feel sorry for yourself

I looked up the four loves, I have none of them, I don't even love myself. I don't know what love and friendship is, nobody has ever given me anything but toxicity.

What is repulsive is the world I have to live in. I wish I was dead but likely I'll just end up in a slightly worse version of this limbo. It's well designed I'll give them that, it does cause great suffering.

 

[Tablet County]

I looked up the four loves, I have none of them, I don't even love myself. I don't know what love and friendship is, nobody has ever given me anything but toxicity.

For somebody who calls other people soulless husks you sure do sound like a soulless husk. But you were right; soulless husks like you are beyond saving.
It's obvious that you want everyone else to come in and fix the world for you, but the only person who can save you at this point is yourself.
Assuming you aren't just a glowie of course. In that case I'd suggest a different set of tactics, this ain't it Shmuel.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

I don't know what love and friendship is

Yes, I know.
That's why I told you to read it to find out.

But I guess you are just too wise to bother finding out what one of the most celebrated philosophers and writers of the last century had to say, since you clearly know what you are doing.

What is repulsive is the world I have to live in

How self-pitying. Go to the third world and get some perspective. Or don't and die alone. It's your life you are wasting.

Want to know the truth about life? Only two people love you unconditionally, God and your momma and some people don't even get that. Everyone else you gotta work for it.

 

[PonderosaPete]

Get into disagreements with people in front of women then take your shirt off and start flexing at them( the person you're arguing with not the women, homo). After they walk away in shame the women will sense your dominant energy and flock to you. This has worked for me for over thirty years and has scored me forty seven thousand dates. Most leave after I spend the entirety red pilling them about rice and the JQ. You'll have to find another teacher for phase two. You're welcome.

 

[2005ᥫ᭡.]

men cant even be virgins

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Yes, I know.
That's why I told you to read it to find out.

But I guess you are just too wise to bother finding out what one of the most celebrated philosophers and writers of the last century had to say, since you clearly know what you are doing.



How self-pitying. Go to the third world and get some perspective. Or don't and die alone. It's your life you are wasting.

Want to know the truth about life? Only two people love you unconditionally, God and your momma and some people don't even get that. Everyone else you gotta work for it.

C S Lewis is beyond me yes, I did not say that I'm smarter than him, all I said was that I looked up what the four loves were and it gave me a list, and I said I have none of those.

Do you fucking know why the third world is shit? It's because they are not us. It's because they are unable to build nice countries like we are. You make it sound like we were just given paradise and they were given trash, which is so offensive to your ancestors.

 

[The Lawgiver]

It is the Jews fault that I live in a world where money is all that matters.

Isn't the money worshp a mormon/scientologist thing?

Do you fucking know why the third world is shit? It's because they are not us. It's because they are unable to build nice countries like we are. You make it sound like we were just given paradise and they were given trash, which is so offensive to your ancestors.

Have you seen what third world countries actually look like or is your perception of them those old charity ads that deceptively frame them as like solely mud huts and tin shacks and shit? Quality of living is generally shittier but unless it's some super rural area or some homeless ass slum they tend to look pretty normal at a glance from what I've seen of them.
Also some of them literally have extremely horrific parasites and disease infesting their soil and water I think that counts as being given trash lmao.

men cant even be virgins

 

[Spiny Rumples]

I've never touched a woman, I thought they were all soft.

This is the kind of doom spiraling and vague standards that gets the trash cans.
Just go for a high-five or a handshake whenever it fits socially. Congratulations or formal greeting, respectively.
And nah some people are downright bony. If you only assume the best of everyone, of course it will seem like an impossible challenge.

QnA is a shitpost area though.

Yeah but people get drunk in bars to be stupider. It's shitposting lite.

I don't think you can go anywhere to make connections in real life anymore can you? Do your places still give you company?

Kinda. In some settings it's possible to meet people and start connections. For easy and low-stakes stuff, I assume bars and running groups and choirs and rock gyms and musicals are simple enough. They give people a common goal to work together on and a way to understand each other (if they know the topic well enough).
The part that got me jaded was that everyone is busy, their attention is being pulled around, and they often are commuting to this hangout spot. I found myself drifting away from a lot of people before I learned that I had to put in 95% of the effort myself or I'd be back alone. This means inviting people out to places, concerts, or for walks or something. Also hosting events like weekly movie nights or barbecues might get regular arrivals. CRITICAL tip: People are drawn to food.

It doesn't mean instant sex or relationships, but if you get familiar with people, you'll probably be less frustrated and anxious around them. Start off talking to guys or girls you aren't attracted to because they'll probably treat you better and you won't take the IQ penalty of being around a pretty woman.

Bars are just a place to go with people you know, you will never have the chance of meeting a woman there.

It probably depends on the place. I know 2 bars in my city where people go to socialize. Everywhere else is for getting drunk.
If there isn't any place where people go to socialize, that sucks. Around here they exist but they all cost money. Free stuff might be found on meetup.com I guess.

Side note: check out the content creator Justin Veenema https://store.justinveenema.com/en-jpy/
He doesn't get laid, but he gets reps in approaching strangers, mostly with dogs, and taking free photos. People like to feel heard and seen, and if you do so genuinely and then don't betray them, they'll probably think you're cool. Still a decent chance they'll never see you again, but that's the world we're living in. Fuck it we ball.
I'm still a virgin too btw. For a while I had virgin rage/shame but after things changed I decided I'd rather be in a committed relationship first.

 

[DankSmoker]

Isn't the money worshp a mormon/scientologist thing?

Just because they're proficient grifters doesnt mean every other religion isnt trying to bilk money out of their followers.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

all I said was that I looked up what the four loves were and it gave me a list, and I said I have none of those.

I know, the book might help you understand why you don't have those, but you don't seem to really want them. You always have an excuse for why you can't improve, like every fat person who "just can't lose the weight" and "tried everything."

Do you fucking know why the third world is shit? It's because they are not us. It's because they are unable to build nice countries like we are. You make it sound like we were just given paradise and they were given trash, which is so offensive to your ancestors.

Yes, I've been to multiple countries and grew up in a US city that is about 10% white. That doesn't mean I can't gain appreciation for growing up in the First World. After all, the superior Whities aren't doing great in South Africa, despite their illustrious White Ancestors. Maybe look at them for perspective if you can only grasp compassion from the Palefaces

Or die alone. Your call.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

I know, the book might help you understand why you don't have those, but you don't seem to really want them. You always have an excuse for why you can't improve, like every fat person who "just can't lose the weight" and "tried everything."



Yes, I've been to multiple countries and grew up in a US city that is about 10% white. That doesn't mean I can't gain appreciation for growing up in the First World. After all, the superior Whities aren't doing great in South Africa, despite their illustrious White Ancestors. Maybe look at them for perspective if you can only grasp compassion from the Palefaces

Or die alone. Your call.

I'd like to read it at some point but I don't have time to read sadly. I have tried a lot but I've found that nothing has helped to build a gateway out of this plane of limbo.

The whites in africa did a pretty good job but they are facing endless hordes of blacks. A fort can only fend off so many orcs before it's crushed under the weight of bodies.

I will die alone for sure.

@Spiny Rumples Good on you for also being a virgin that is not ashamed. It's easy to have rage in the teens and 20s because that is when your drive to be with a woman is most strong, once you hit the 30s it dies down and you don't care so much. I have hope that soon I'll not care at all about women, it will like an irritating voice suddenly gone from my mind.

Women do have soft skin don't they?

I don't think women do high fives or like to be touched. They are usually very careful not to get too close.

I can see the fun of hanging out with people being eroded by everyone always having other commitments and eventually it becoming too much work to try and get people together. Why did it have to be you that organized most things though, did you have the personality type for it?

I've not got any women I know to try practicing talking to someone I don't find attractive, that is a good tip though.

Huh, he takes pictures of their dogs and uploads it??

Any pub i've been too has been a place where you get a table with your family and everyone sticks to their own groups, I've never seen a place where people freely intermingle.

 

[Travis Touchdown (REAL)]

OP is a faggot

 

[White_N]

Have you considered starting a love quest?

 

[The Lawgiver]

Women do have soft skin don't they?

I don't think women do high fives or like to be touched. They are usually very careful not to get too close.

Everyone loves high fives, you're fucking tweaking over women having soft palms or some shit which while very funny is also a special kind of deranged.