I'd say it's debatable whether that Nick ever existed. There was recently a post in another thread where tims gloated about how their pre-troon personas that other people knew as their friends were a facade. Trans women aren't lying when they say they are now living as their true, authentic selves. What you are mourning is a mask that Nick was wearing around you.
I do not think the Nick of the now is more aka "Natalie Wynn" is a more genuine version of himself than the Nick of the past. To agree w that is to agree with the central thesis of troonery that people can somehow be what they aren't and never were. I think Natalie is a limiting facade that bound Nick more than it liberated him, and from that very pragmatic perspective transitioning was bad for him.
Didn't he say that he liked dressing in drag to go to bars at night to sleep around with strange men? That's not gender non-conformity; you may as well say his interest in classical music is gender non-conforming because no WWE character likes classical music or that being gay makes men gender non-conforming.
If it was ever a fun pastime or a persuasive tactic, it would have never had a sexual element. Sex is deadly serious no matter who you are; nobody would link a fun hobby or whatever to one of the most intimate and soul-bearing acts imaginable.
I don't really think it's that he was always a woman or whatever and more that he was always a narcissistic, style-over-substance, autogynephile no matter how much he pretended to be an intellectual, progressive filmmaker.
The sleeping with men (including Oliver Thorne) came somewhat later on. We were already heading apart at that point.
I don't think he was always an autogynephile. He was corrupted by a bunch of troons love bombing him towards their movement when he indicated he was sympathetic to them in certain ways. He wanted to be loved, they sold him with that. To me, the proof is in the pudding: Contrapoints today is less productive, less funny, less succinct, and less talented than the Nick I knew. If he thinks that's how women are, and that he needed to stop being funny, concise & talented to be percieved "as a woman" (which he isn't, and never will be) that's insulting, sexist and stupid on his part. Also he will never be a woman, no matter how many times he dresses up like a whore.
I immediately thought of that scene in Beauty where he says that the only reason lady grad students go barefaced is to feminist-own some other woman.
He’s such a miserable sexist. I don’t see how anyone could tolerate the guy.
Eh, I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, no, they are not a more authentic version of themselves. They’re pretending to be another sex, which is even more ludicrous than LARPing as another race. Furthermore, troonery, like all addictions, is about creating distance between oneself and one’s mental state. The goal is to induce disassociation. In that sense, trooning is the furthest you could be from yourself. Asserting that their actual selves are the facades is just another way for the tranny to get his fix.
He really doesn't get that the reason why most women end up not wanting to spend hours with a morning beauty routine is because... well, you have to spend hours on it and also a lot of money. If you're working a 9-5 (a foreign concept to Nick, I'm sure), you're not exactly going to want to wake up earlier and sacrifice sleep just to go glam. Add that most make up doesn't last all day, so you'd have to keep checking and fixing it.
Yes, I was leaning towards the idea that they were all the same sexist, self-absorbed men rather than their female personas being their true selves. Most of them start out as the male feminist of the group with populistic ideas, constantly flaunting how woke they are about social issues and women's struggles. Only to then blow up in the faces of all their female family members and friends that, no, they've actually always had the same misogynistic ideas about them as the people they've been criticising. The persona they had before was a front to get ass-pats and learn how to spin liberal feminist rhetoric to stealthily shame and shit-talk women without them noticing.
Like this one. The retard is pissed that women are still recognised as women without having to apply seven layers of make-up a day and wear a gay hooker dress. Oh, but he has to be sneaky about it so as not to upset the piggy bank handmaidens watching him, so he twists it into a "we are in this together, sisters" sexism issue. No, Nicky, by not wearing make-up these women are not actually mocking you... But it's funny you think so.
I think I skipped or memory holed that particular video. In any case, Nick knows there are two reasons I personally pretty much never wear makeup and it had nothing to do with attending graduate school. Those reasons being:
Hasn’t he said multiple times that he considers himself someone who “used to be a man” as opposed to someone who’s always been a woman? He mentioned it offhandedly during this talk (at 4:37) and at least one other time in one of his videos, but I don’t remember which. Something along the lines of “I’m a rather unorthodox trans person because I consider myself as someone who used to be a man but is now a woman”.
I'm not watching it, but it seems like 3 entire hours about conspiracy theories.
Watching it right now (because i've got nothing better to do) and I'll edit post once I'm done but so far she's not made any actual points and it's more or less "isn't this kind of silly? people really think there's a cannibal government satanic cabal. listen to this bullshit" for the first 30 or so minutes
they are (somehow.) real moving people that turn to face the camera at one point
I "watched" the entire fucking thing but yeah... more or less. It was so boring to listen to and watch, even though i was not actively listening to it. It was also completely dishonest, and it is clear that mister Contrapoints has no clue what conspiracy theory means or who conspiracy theorists are. All his sources and examples were from reddit and/or twitter, which is literally the worst thing to do. That's like gauging what the average metal listener listens to based on what is posted in the last 24 hours on r/metal. Diabolical.
Not sure, but it could literally just be him in multiple takes and then edited together to give you the illusion of there being more people.
Genuinely shocked that he did his job and delivered a full-length video. But, of course, he pulled a Dune and released a fraction what will be a multi-part project. You know, because those worked out it so well for Hontra in the past - see Justice parts 1 and 2 if you don’t know what I mean.
I guess we'll just selectively ignore the plenty of lefty-coded conspiracy theories from "the FBI assassinated MLK" to "the CIA gave crack to black communities in the 80s" to "Bush did 9/11 to justify the Iraq War for oil," etc... I really don't feel like torturing myself listening to his Michael-Jackson-doing-an-impression-of-Minnie-Mouse-being-fed-to-a-wood-chipper-feet-first voice but does he ever directly contend with anything specific George Carlin actually said about conspiracy theories?
This reminds me of when Destiny used to argue in debates that the idea that large campaign contributions have undue influence over politicians was itself a baseless conspiracy theory and that its actually a huge random coincidence that politicians just happen to want the same things their wealthy donors want. I thought to myself there's no way anyone could possibly be more willfully obtuse than that but apparently Nick has decided he's gonna try!
