FFFUUUUUUCCCKKKK it was bid up above my "no go" price.
I could see an indoor range slapping these on rentals to keep people from shooting the ceiling. Thats where its utility ends imo. If the argument is that you use it for <3 yards because thats 'too close for irons', the fight is also too close and too fast to stare down at your gun waiting for a green light.
The same guys saying they can't use their sights in a defensive situation also never practice shooting from retention drills
Shooting from retention drills are a good time if you have a willing friend to spar with and an airsoft or a paintball pistol. Try to draw on them as they're trying to wrestle you to the ground.
How is the recoil on these? i've shot some heavy kicking automatics and never cared for them. A revolvers grip shape (in general) seems more suited for heavy recoil, especially the Colt's grip. in my opinion of course.
that's a hog's leg grip. these are intended to allow the grip to slip with rotation in the hand on big revolvers, but also requires more effort on the part of the shooter at the wrist and knowledge to allow the revolver to rotate with the wrist upwards with the recoil from the shot rather than fight against it which is the typical instinct. combined with a heavy steel frame and barrel, and you can really tame recoil up into heavy .45 colt or .357 magnum it's okay, but any more than that and you will want a "thunderer" grip with a hump at the rear to control rotation. ultimately if you aren't a revolver shooter i would suggest avoiding them in anything but moderate loads in a heavy steel gun.
So in lower third, my iron sights should be lined up, and my dot should be in the very center correct?
Is the grip taller than it seems? That beavertail looks like it's riding so low I'd need to reach upwards with my finger to reach the trigger.
I agree, single action revolvers seem to have a smoother recoil compared to double action revolvers of the same caliber. The model I've fired the most does have a larger aftermarket grip though, which likely helps eating the recoil.
When I try to move my dot up to match the 1/3rd picture I hit the limit of the holosun EPS carry... my irons aren't that tall I feel like something is wrong.
I'd say it's entirely possible that the combined sight picture is somewhere between lower third and absolute co-witness, unless the iron sights and RDS both follow some shared dimensional standards. Out of curiosity, what distance is the RDS zeroed at?
Honestly I have no idea, when I bought it the gun shop said they zeroed it, but I've fucked with it since then. Is it bad to try and line the dot up with the irons?
Bruh
For other "gucci" .300 blackout bufferless designs you can look at the Dissent line from CMMG and BRN 180s from brownells. They're more midrange if you have $3k+ burning a hole in your pocket, but w/e. There's a small handful of bulpup designs too, but the ergos and railestate is piss poor on them. Not to mention some of them don't like being suppressed. My only strong opinion is Sig is garbage and their QC issues extend to their "gucci" guns too; don't buy the jeetgun. Of the two you've listed I'd stick in B&T's camp.
