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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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10:07 AM - Jan 3, 2019

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I think he's doing that for our own protection more than anything. The government can get ISPs to tell them what sites you're accessing on clearnet, even if the content itself is protected with TLS, so anyone accessing KF without some form of tunneling is painting a target on his back. I'm sure he'll re-assess this in a few months and loosen restrictions again, but it's generally a good idea to avoid accessing controversial sites on clearnet regardless.

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment, not panic. I appreciate the response though.

Null should keep the restrictions. This whole thing with ofcom and the safety bill will be shit-canned the second the internet ad companies start losing money, and they will blame Starmer.

I believe it's why previous attempts to wall off the internet were stopped because of loss of revenue. I hope it chases everyone in the country onto a VPN and it results in SM being abandoned in droves.
Let's see ofcom tackle instagram. Please.

 

[Coolio55]

fixed for you

That's what I meant though. All of these fediverse codebases can be easily snapped over your knee.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

I've been using Mullvad since the DKF shenanigans, except when we were Tor only. I've still got the Tor browser for emergencies.

I chose Mullvad, because even if VPNs are banned, you can conduct business with them by merely sending your account number and cash, analogue style, and they'll add time on that account, without any other identifying information. I don't know if that'll make a difference, but I suppose we'll find out.

I doubt they'll be able to ban VPNs though, all businesses use them for people who work from home to connect to work websites, or anyone away from the office for any reason to check in, so it would cause business a huge amount of issues.

 

[Pygmy Giraffe]

I chose Mullvad, because even if VPNs are banned, you can conduct business with them by merely sending your account number and cash,

Mullvad kicks ass. I've been using it for years now with no problems. For extra convenience, you can simply purchase a Mullvad VPN voucher off of amazon using your credit card, then plug in the scratch off code into your new account number. Amazon wont know where the code you bought is going to and Mullvad wont know who bought the code they received. Gives you a nice barrier between your identifiable payment info and your Mullvad account. But, for the seriously paranoid (might want to consider this, Bongs) you can now use XMR cryptocurrency for even more anonymity in payment.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I wanted to point out the similarity to him, but I think it might fall on deaf ears.

I came here to post it after I realised it in the other thread. I think he did implement the tor restriction to protect 'us', since regardless of whether the site implements restrictions for UK users after the fact, Ofcom are going to ask that he do as they say giving him a date for the official demand and then a deadline to carry out that demand.

I don't know if he intends to comply or not, but he didn't to Cloudfare and he didn't to New Zealand so it's unlikely. Doesn't help Ofcom's chances that they're asking him to do more than simply take down content the cheeky fuckers want a full on risk assessment, which means they're too lazy to do it themselves or there's so many websites they sent these emails too that they simply don't have the manpower, so they're trying to conscript/scare site admins into doing the work for them. Why? Well, remember that the crossbow killer's entire motive was deduced as being Tate-inspired hyper-misogyny, all because the police saw he had Tate videos in his Youtube watch history? That tells me the websites that the authorities even factor in when it comes to investigating someone is a general sense is hilariously primitive. I'm sure they don't reveal everything in trying to deduce a motive, but it seems their internet investigations are heavily reliant on search histories, browser history, and Youtube watch history in doing so. It's all too reliant on retrospect.

My guess is that they just want to compile a shortlist of problematic websites to 'monitor' for illegal content and problematic users in the future since it's likely limited to the obvious stuff like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, TikTok, Instagram and so forth. They probably want names and accounts of users highlighted in the admin's risk assessment, then they'd likely request the IP addresses tied to said accounts, tossing out any that weren't from the UK (or if they wanted to be cunts, forward them to their respective foreign agencies). Then worse still, if you do comply and send a risk assessment and IPs, they might thank you and then ask for another one in six months or something. This plan will fall through if too many don't comply since I imagine the 'enforcement team' are just people who are supposed to do the job they tried assigning to the admins, either that or they'll do a literal 1:1 of the TV Licence and make their next email appear scarier since it's now from the 'enforcement team' whilst not actually taking any action beyond hoping the admin listens now. That does open up the avenue for you to lie and send whatever bullshit you want and claim it's legit, but again it might not be worth the effort. If they similarly copy the BBC when it comes to attempting enforcement, it might just result in some low paid, disinterest employee trawling the farms for anything they deem 'illegal' and either send takedown requests or use it as an excuse to get it banned across the ISPs. It deprives them of being of being able to identify problematic individuals though if someone is fedposting.

 

[Snekposter]

The English invented Cheddar, after all.

A truly unforgiveable sin as far as Dear Sneeder is concerned.

 

[starborn427614]

Josh announced on the Telegram chat that Kiwiflare will no longer authenticate UK users by the way. Anyone posting from the UK will need a VPN.
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Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

VPN shields: up. OFCOM can gargle my balls

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

I’ve been using ivpn for a long time now, like Mullvard, you can pay with bitcoin and cash without any details other than account number. In my use case, I think it worked out cheaper (7 licenses for 3 years) and would recommend as never had problems. They also have a seriously good (free) blog with articles about privacy and security for those that are interested.

I’ve been expecting the geo-block for sometime now and because I’m a cynical, paranoid fuck, I’m expecting them to go after VPNs at some point. Nool is absolutely right in protecting himself, the site and us lot (from ourselves). Let some other website be the canary in the coalmine this time.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

Don't rely just on software protection for mobile access to the farms free speech. sim toolkits have been a thing since the 00's. Remember people have been caught by phones following the same location patterns.

 

[FedPostalService]

Good luck with that. X is the most used news source on the planet and the majority of UK buissnesses have customer support and help routed through it at a minimum

Going after X would cripple a lot of things.

X already fully cooperate with the police. Free Speech Sigma Male Elon will give your entire Twitter history to the police and all the information they have on you if they simply ask.

Don't rely just on software protection for mobile access to the farms free speech. sim toolkits have been a thing since the 00's. Remember people have been caught by phones following the same location patterns.

Don't fedpost and you'll be fine up. People were calling David Lammy a nigger behind VPNs on Twitter a while back and the police gave up as soon as they realised they would have to do some extra work. This was despite Lammy kicking up a massive fuss about it.

As long as you're not posting child porn or plotting terror attacks or regular murder then the police aren't going to hunt you down as soon as they see you're behind a VPN.

GCHQ can see who you are no matter how much opsec you practice, so don't be a knob and attract the attention of the Security Services.

There's a good chance things are REALLY going to kick off once the weather gets better. Just eat you sausage roll from Greggs, enjoy the chaos, and don't say anything that would give the FBI cause to also get interested in you and pass your details onto the UK police. Do not engage with the policemen in the British Summer of Discontent thread. I may sound a bit tinfoil hat but that thread is full of posters who reek of bacon. Don't be like the weird Wallace and Gromit guy and start posting instruction on making explosives and details of his stockpile of them.

We'll probably see a big case soon about how they caught some l33t hacker posting heckin' hate speech on X who was using a VPN but I'll bet the idiot will have posted so much biographical details they may as well have used their real name and photo.

I'd advise everyone to sprinkle in a couple of lies here and there when they speak about their personal life. If you have attracted the attention of someone who glows slightly this will throw them off. It also has the added benefit of driving autists on here insane as they can't comprehend that people can lie on the internet.

Stay safe, Kiwi bros. It's going to be a depressingly interesting couple of years ahead of us. Insulate yourself in real life. Keep your heads down. Don't express your opinions openly unless with friends.

We'll all deserve a bean and sausage bake along with a fudge doughnut once all this is over.

 

[darknation]

so I have to pay a tenner a month to say nigger on the internet now.

Gonna get my fucking moneys worth.

 

[anklyscr]

If you're not posting on a VPN you really should

So what does apple’s private relay do then?
I thought it anonymised your ip address and only apple can release who,what , where , when accessed a website. I know it doesn’t change country but it defo puts weird geolocation endpoints when I mess with whatsmyip and all that.

2nd thought. Does someone at ofcom have shares in a vpn provider ?

 

[Drihten]

There's a good chance things are REALLY going to kick off once the weather gets better.

Even if not this summer, it's inevitable that there WILL be more violence at some point, this is the climate our establishment has created through their ineptitude and maliciousness. Last summer was just the portent of things to come.

 

[-Jack-]

Why does our government hate us for using the farms? I mainly use it to keep up to date with my favourite deathfat lolcow and sometimes engage in high level autism..is that a bloody crime?

 

[Mr Bunny]

I claim this thread in the name of America!

No bongs can be found here.
Oh sing can you see!

 

[Special spoonie]

Why does our government hate us for using the farms? I mainly use it to keep up to date with my favourite deathfat lolcow and sometimes engage in high level autism..is that a bloody crime?

Because they long decided that gossiping about fat peadophile troons is bullying, like what they did to our terf queen Caroline farrow. I posted it about the mermaids thread but the recent Newman v Met case it came out these terfs were being watched by counter terrorism plods & they were upset they couldn’t find anything illegal to get them with. Naturally there were some activist troons involved in their internal LGBT network. They were probably also upset during the summer riots they couldn’t get anybody on this site too.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I claim this thread in the name of America!

No bongs can be found here.
Oh sing can you see!

We already have a flag.

 

[Gregis]

I claim this thread in the name of America!

No bongs can be found here.
Oh sing can you see!

Yeah, it's so weird that suddenly all these guys with IP address in random third world countries are posting in a thread about UK politics! Well, I'm sure everything's above board.

Also, I just love that at the top of every page is the original story about the Greggs vegan sausage roll; it makes it seem like everything that happened since is just downstream of that. Looks like it didn't work out so hot...

 

[FedPostalService]

>concern trolling

>straight up lying

And you're warning everyone else of Feds..? Seriously? You called UKIP a honeypot! The swinger-in-chief, Tenconi, is apparently working for MI5.

This has been a pattern of years with you, specifically, either being caught bullshitting or inventing reasons to be suspicious of others. You are just a Leftist fanatic who touches himself while imagining his opponents being slammed by negros in political prisons.

In reality, I'm more afraid of Null than I am of the British police. I haven't had so much as a glance from the authorities, despite what you've been claiming for over six months.

Null, on the other hand, actually puts the work in to publicly humiliate his enemies. You should be more concerned about the site owner himself dragging you into his dungeon.

Follow the site rules, and the de-facto site rule that British posters should use a VPN.

Don't sit around acting as if your blatant shilling for the current government's authoritarianism is anything close to reality.

I’m sorry if reality offends you.

If you want to step outside and start the revolution I’m not stopping you.