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I can't speak to the social sciences, only hard science, but undergrad students do the bulk of the work.Just who do they expect to do all the grunt work and underpaid tutorial/lab supervision? I can't imagine they'll get it cheaper than a PhD student. For subjects where such things are important, I imagine there'd be a huge drop in undergrad enrolment and thus fees.
How are their illustrious professors going to publish their high impact papers that require 1000s of hours of work without people to actually do that work?
The PhD student is usually focused on the higher level hypotheses, working on their thesis, and developing more advanced experiments in tandem with the professor they work under; a lot of that work can be delegated to anyone willing to learn and follow instructions (probably the most difficult part of lab staffing, some kids are just born dumb as fuck and many are too dumb to realize pre-med/STEM is not for them). The pipetting, measuring, cleaning, machine maintenance, mixing, sonicating, washing, timing, recording, testing, reporting, etc can be done by an army of eager undergrads desperate for that sweet sweet on campus extracurricular.
In undergrad I worked in a biochemistry lab. Not a biochem major and did not have any real experience but did have two hands, a willingness to spend 1/3 of my summer in the lab, and could be trusted to run the expensive equipment. Didn't have to be directly supervised, so the PhD student focused on her thesis and occasionally checked in; the project itself was run by a really awesome and involved professor - I learned how to do stuff from the materials he provided and we probably could have kept the lab going without the PhD student (everything would just be on a much longer timeline). Also, all of our lab safety tutorials and certification courses were led by the body of professors and non-student staff who oversee lab safety and compliance. I can see where PhD students can prop up a program, but I don't think every program necessitates having PhD students all the time.
In any case, labs that are run well and projects led by competent professors will be fine as long as undergrads can be recruited into doing free labor for the "experience". There might be a drop in enrollment simply because without PhD students there are less available instructors for teaching lab sections and ultimately less attractive schedule options (although non-PhD grad students have picked up the slack at my former college so lab sections don't get cancelled due to lack of staffing), but it also might force professors to get back in the classroom, which, depending on the professor, might not be a bad thing.