Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[ruckingfetard]

I used to be the biggest anti sjw, anti feminism, pick me attention whore online there was. And the funny thing is, the disgusting nature of troons actually made me a lot more sympathetic to female issues and has steered me the other way. Seeing a man pretend to be a women highlighted all of the sexist ideas people had against women better than anything retards online bitch about. It just so happens that now the new form of sexism is approved by leftists because degenerate freaks want to call themselves women.

Spoiler: my rant about women and troons

I feel like the only people that would take the plight of troons over females is: men who hate women, tranny men who hate women, and women who hate women. In fact, you'll notice women who defend trannies often treat the trannies like their gay lap poodles. These women defend trannies not because they view them as vulnerable people, it's because they don't see them as competition because they are so disgusting. And especially because they hate women. No one who doesn't hate women would, in their right mind, defend a tranny. And I am tired of people pretending there is this big comradery between women, when women are some of the most vile and catty creatures towards each other. And as someone who used to be a "not like other girls" I can promise you that. But that's getting far from the point.

I wouldn't say I am a full feminist now or anything, but I am a realist on the differences between men and women. And I don't take women's fears lightly. To trannies and tranny defenders, they like to pretend women are irrational for being afraid of being put in vulnerable positions with these sick men. But this is a primordial fear. It has nothing to do with these faggot gender wars that pop up online all the time. It's that they know, deep down, they are weaker and defenseless. Their instincts scream at them that they do not feel safe. And you could consider them stupid and annoying and overdramatic all you want, but you could only be a cruel motherfucker to look at the weaker sex being fearful at someone who could overpower them and just tell them to shut up because you're hurting said someone that could overpower them.

Furthermore there's the skinwalking aspect of it. if women have generations of evidence to fear men, whether they have been harmed or not, imagine how mentally fucked it is to watch the species known for rape to just put on a dress and demand to have the same protections as you. It's ridiculous. And it's almost psychological torture. Having someone who grew up with the "privileges" they bitch and moan about, suddenly decide to act like they had the same experiences as you did growing up in a female body. It's like they are mocking you.

I don't think women are blameless or innocent creatures, and they can be called out for a lot of shit. but I do think they are victims in this world. They are provably weaker. And they have a history of being victimized by men. Don't really give a shit to hear the #notallmen spiel, kiwifarmers ought to know better at this point that talking about women being historic public toilets is not a dig on the men reading this who just want to shit on troons. It's not about you bro.

But yeah. If acknowledging that women are the weaker species makes me a feminist then so be it. I just don't think kicking them to the curb and blaming them for the way shit is because womanpower culture wars were all the rage is morally acceptable. Not saying you can't laugh at women for being stupid (when they are), but you can do so without pretending they aren't victims to the tranny menace.

 

[Hubelublub]

when women are some of the most vile and catty creatures towards each other

Women say mean words, men rape and sexually assault.

Might want to rethink that use of "vile" there

they bitch and moan

I don't think women are blameless or innocent creatures

they can be called out for a lot of shit.

This is absolute pickme language.

I wouldn't say I am a full feminist now or anything

I agree.

 

[The Morning Visitor]

But yeah. If acknowledging that women are the weaker species makes me a feminist then so be it.

It doesn't make you a "feminist", but I have noticed this crossover happening as well and I consider my chauvinist self a part of it. Troons have driven many traditional misogynists to supporting feminist causes, because it's been put on display that cross-sex competition is deeply unfair/unsafe and it's been shown to what lengths a sex-starved man will go if he thinks he'll get closer to getting a crumb of pussy, regardless of consent. We can all agree that women are physically weaker and that they hold the cards in human reproduction, and for those reasons we can all agree that they must be protected from opportunists and creeps.

 

[Paper Machete]

There is nothing more "trad" than thinking women are particularly vulnerable and need to be protected.

So it isn't strange at all more conservative people would notice.

The real difference is that feminists believe this protection and consideration should come from the state and the state only while more conservative people believe it's more up to community, family, and if applicable religion.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

AI used to be the biggest anti sjw, anti feminism, pick me attention whore online there was. And the funny thing is, the disgusting nature of troons actually made me a lot more sympathetic to female issues and has steered me the other way. Seeing a man pretend to be a women highlighted all of the sexist ideas people had against women better than anything retards online bitch about. It just so happens that now the new form of sexism is approved by leftists because degenerate freaks want to call themselves women.

Same here. But as needlessly contrarian and outright retarded as anti-SJWs and anti-feminists were back then (myself included), I still think a lot of criticisms aimed at the "feminists" and SJWs still carry water. Especially when you realize that most of the "feminists" then (Zoe Quinn, Brianna Wu, Anita Sarkeesian, Justin "Riley" Dennis, etc) were lib feminists, meaning they were essentially handmaidens for troons, if not troons themselves.

They spent the entirety of the 2010s and beyond whining about first world problems and grifting, it's natural that they'd be blind to the real threats to women, like transgenderism and Islam. Don't feel too bad for shitting on them.

There was a lot of mindless contrarianism towards an admittingly stupid group of people, but that wasn't all it. Even people who supported the gamergate movement were able to find it in themselves to support a TERF game development group called the Fine Young Capitalists.

 

[LimeRikki]

This thread is about hitting peak trans. There are other places and other threads than here to talk about feminism.

 

[LennyAdd]

I remember supporting letting trans people choose their own bathrooms around 2016-2018 and other things because I didn't see it as a big deal, I didn't know anyone transgender online or in real life, so it was just "live and let live".

Then basically from 2019 onward, I just kept seeing them fantasizing about killing JK Rowling even at her tamest, take over countless unrelated spaces and making it all about them, and the connection to furries, autism and general mental issues 99% of the time, so that in 2020 I was already fully off the train. This was before I even browsed the Farms.

It's also bizarro world that trans support keeps decreasing like in so many cases like mine, but US media just keeps going harder on the representation push. What can you do, though it's obviously not working.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

I used to think they were ultra gays and harmless, until I found the thread here on the Farms. Man, was that thread an eye opener. I've learned so much about them from lurking the Trans thread since like 2019. I am now aware of AGP, HST, and all the other things that they do.

 

[Psyoptimus Primal]

In the 90's I found out about what transexuals were fromthe author of a webcomic called Unicorn Jelly because he posted about it on his site, (He has a thread here lol.) https://kiwifarms.st/threads/jdr-jennifer-diane-reitz-chatoyance.6072/ Then in the 2000's it was Meowth's voiceactor in Pokemon, and one of the Wachowski's trooning out. I did not really care because I thought it was just the woman version of furry and they were just self aware transvestites or something I have no fucking idea.. It didn't really affect me. They weren't even as obvious or annoying as furries somehow at the time but now they're so much worse. Then Tumblr happened and I would laugh at the huge influx crazies but even in 2017 it didn't really bother me that David Lynch added his pro tranny thing to Twin Peaks. And this was at a time where I was sick of liberal feminist shit already. Maybe I just respect Lynch to omuch or David Duchovny in a wig made me remember what I first thought trannies were in the 90's and 00's. Now I have an absolute zero tolerance of them and I don't have to explain why here. I'm not sure when exactly it was.

 

[Aunt Carol]

it didn't really bother me that David Lynch added his pro tranny thing to Twin Peaks.

It was like one scene; I was annoyed, too, but you gotta remember that even "big names" can be normies when it comes to troons. Other than the ones who are chasers or being "hatched," celebrities don't have time or inclination to listen to trans voices like your average KF enjoyer.

Funny how the troons didn't complain that Lynch didn't recast Denise Bryson with a true and honest transwoman. You're right, though: Dennis/Denise Bryson in the original Twin Peaks was what most people, myself included, used to think of when they thought of a transsexual, until the Internet boosted their numbers and their voices.

 

[Mourning_Cloak]

Um, no. If working mothers were somehow responsible for the increase in trans identification, then this would have started in the 1970s and 1980s. It wouldn't have exploded like dynamite ten years ago.

I know this depends largely on what one's definition of a "working mother" is, but working mothers also existed prior to the 1970s in various capacities. I think it's ridiculous to blame the rise in trannyism on single mothers or working mothers alone.

It seems that so few people want to acknowledge just how many men and/or fathers also pander hard to tranny shit and enable it when their kids start LARPing as gender blobs. Many if not most of the problems that come from single motherhood don't magically disappear if a child happens to be raised by a single father instead.

This isn't to say this never has anything to do with it - I'm sure it does - but it's not the single cause. Same thing with blaming anime as a medium.

 

[bouquetnine]

It's also bizarro world that trans support keeps decreasing like in so many cases like mine, but US media just keeps going harder on the representation push. What can you do, though it's obviously not working.

The goal is humiliation. Telling everyone to obey the gender bullshit isn't about respect or stopping bullying or any of that nonsense. It's about wearing people down and sapping their will to fight real issues like how everyone is having their tax dollars embezzled.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Latest "peak," if you can call it. Might be more a rant than anything.

I sometimes read the karma farm that is r/askreddit for the hell of it. Decided to look at a post the other day asking about historical figures that deserved vindication after being done dirty in their lifetime. Among the answers was Alan Turing for being chemically castrated with cross sex drugs such as estrogen for being homosexual despite everything he did for the UK war effort and technological advancement. Almost all of the comments described this as a cruelty because, paraphrase:

1) gender dysphoria is real and the UK gave this ultimate evil to someone that was *cisgender,* and
2) "the UK hasn't actually learned its lesson with LGBT rights because it's now denying the rights of trans people [by starting to not give anyone and everyone puberty blockers and cross sex hormones (i.e. chemical castration) that wants it willy nilly]!"

So by this logic, if Turing wanted hormones, then it would've been okay? Denying drugs that even they admit sterilize men and fuck them up in other medical ways is bad, even evil, when they want to twirly skirt? It's magically okay, even ethical, then?

Absolutely fucking dense.

 

[AnOminous]

So by this logic, if Turing wanted hormones, then it would've been okay? Denying drugs that even they admit sterilize men and fuck them up in other medical ways is bad, even evil, when they want to twirly skirt? It's magically okay, even ethical, then?

It's actually at least ethically consistent. Someone being allowed to do something they want to do is a lot different from violently forcing them to do it at gunpoint.

Even most LSD advocates, for instance, would view it as a heinous act to dose someone with acid against their will.

And what they did to Turing was definitely incredibly shabby treatment of a man who helped save his country.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

2) "the UK hasn't actually learned its lesson with LGBT rights because it's now denying the rights of trans people [by starting to not give anyone and everyone puberty blockers and cross sex hormones (i.e. chemical castration) that wants it willy nilly]!"

And also by having laws that say that there can legally be spaces where only natural born women are allowed.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

Even most LSD advocates, for instance, would view it as a heinous act to dose someone with acid against their will.

Well, modern ones anyway. The Grateful Dead dosed people as a prank all the time.

 

[Lovely Kin]

When they were starting to be forced into children shows. I was never fond of trannies but I was always ambivalent. Next thing you knew, you had drag queens dancing on kid shows, showing up in libraries, and them forcing themselves into any place they weren't welcomed. Oh, it didn't help they were taking over random forums and communities despite having no interest in the topic or game. So at first I thought it was "Well, they're just online weirdos" until they started popping their faces into kids show which firmly shifted my opinion they want to groom kids and lonely spergs. It's a literal death cult too. The amount of times trannies encourage self-harming and horrific acts, even in public spaces where someone easily impressionable like a child or teenager could easily find them.

I'm honestly sick of them all.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

It's actually at least ethically consistent. Someone being allowed to do something they want to do is a lot different from violently forcing them to do it at gunpoint.

Even most LSD advocates, for instance, would view it as a heinous act to dose someone with acid against their will.

And what they did to Turing was definitely incredibly shabby treatment of a man who helped save his country.

Oh, definitely. It’s the hypocrisy and willingness to dangle a dead gay man’s corpse for their “activism” that really pisses me off. Not to mention that troons also freak out at the idea of chemical castration… for pedophiles, because they automatically assume that when people say pedo, they always mean tranny, and therefore it’s an attack against them specifically.

Honestly, they deserve all the ball frying if they want to behave that badly. Not like they’d be willing to protect their country in its time of need like Turing did, homophobia or not.

When they were starting to be forced into children shows. I was never fond of trannies but I was always ambivalent. Next thing you knew, you had drag queens dancing on kid shows, showing up in libraries, and them forcing themselves into any place they weren't welcomed. Oh, it didn't help they were taking over random forums and communities despite having no interest in the topic or game. So at first I thought it was "Well, they're just online weirdos" until they started popping their faces into kids show which firmly shifted my opinion they want to groom kids and lonely spergs. It's a literal death cult too. The amount of times trannies encourage self-harming and horrific acts, even in public spaces where someone easily impressionable like a child or teenager could easily find them.

I'm honestly sick of them all.

I remember finding out a couple years ago that a Netflix kids show had a bison character come out as non binary (or two spirit, because Indian, just not “female I actually am, going by the wiki”). Sex Ed and understanding gender are confusing and overwhelming enough for children when it’s merely the birds and the bees, and now people are expected to include the bisons?

I worked very briefly with a teenage pooner in a grocery store. She didn’t even last a month as a bagger, partly because of times like when a child would ask if she was a girl and she’d try to defend that she was really a trans boy. When this happened on my line, the mom and I exchanged quick, knowing looks at each other. The mom was definitely not looking forward to debunking lil dood’s bullshit to her four year old.

Going beyond male/female and pretending that the biological binary does not exist was a mistake that will have consequences down the road.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

There is nothing more "trad" than thinking women are particularly vulnerable and need to be protected.

And plenty of men and women enjoy this dynamic. Women want to be assured that even if their career fails they got chances. And men.. well what's another fail condition? Height, hair, income, 'icks', expressing experience-based opinions about women..

Women say mean words, men rape and sexually assault.

Except women say mean words that lean to prison and suicide while women can make millions being that poor doll who had to get diddled to earn 6 figures at 19.
>shows up
> 'as a woman'
>most sour shit that yet retain no substance
Classic woman

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

I already posted in this thread but I forgot to mention the REAL deal breaker for me was learning about autogyneco-howeveritspelled.

Now I know what Lovecraft's characters went through when they realized the eldritch truths of the cosmos.