What the actual fuck @Roketsune @Field Marshal Crappenberg? To think I actually exchanged PMs with you and now you come out as a pedo autistic wannabe-tranny furry? You make me sick! I even called you sir and saluted you because you had an uniform!
I disagree with the OP (and most people here probably) that he is a cow. What sort of tard cum is he providing us? Has anyone laughed at him in the last 14 pages? I just feel sad and skipped all of his 80.000 word essays he probably writes after putting a dildo up his ass. Even the OP here has abandoned the thread, pretty much.
He also gets a pass for being one of the major contributors to the TLL wiki page. He did show huge sings of autism and self-importance while doing the work there, though. I guess now the pieces of the puzzle have formed a crisper image of what a creep he is.
@Field Marshal Crappenberg I'll be honest with you man. You're on the verge of losing all the respect you earned from me and the community back on the TLL thread. If you expect me to stay on your side from now on I want you to record a VIDEO explaining why it's OK to be attracted to little kids who don't know what they do - no long-ass posts, I won't read them as I didn't read any other so far because I actually have a life.
If you can, explain yourself in a 10-minute video and why we should accept you as a lolcow or I'm done with you - and I think others here too, since this thread seems to be boring everyone more than anything else at this point. Ball is on your court mate.
"combat sexual abuse" by changing the definition? Holy shit dude, you can't possibly be up your own ass enough to have said that as seriously as you seem to have meant it.
Let me put this in words you'll understand. Your 'rules of engagement' lack entire sections that the rest of society operates by. 'Strategies' that seem perfectly acceptable to you are war crimes to everyone else. You are social mustard gas.
Back again. There are a couple of matters I wish to expound and clarify before getting to responses. I don't think I've properly articulated why I decided to connect my respected Kiwi identity with my ordinary furry and lolcow name, and why I felt that and coming here as Roketsune in general was a wise idea.
I had conceived the scenario of getting a thread here months ago, and had crafted an operational plan in response. One of those components was revealing who I was upon my entry. Upon further reflection after discovering this, I saw no reason to change it. The only reason I somewhat deviated from that part of the plan was my friendly contact advised me not to, though the staff were informed well before I arrived here (oh, on that subject, I never asked for the thread to be locked or deleted- I stated I wanted to come here actually). Not being sure of the staff's desires and not wanting to antagonize them or my contact, I nebulously alluded to it instead. In retrospect, I should have just gone ahead with what I intended and envisioned.
As to why I deemed that good strategy, there are a few reasons. Being a pedofur comes with a huge relations malus here, so if I could demonstrate I've actually been a useful and liked member of this place that would be beneficial in a variety of ways and moments. It's generally better to give people more reason to like/not utterly despise you if you're going to their community without a disguise or facade. Of course, this in the short term set off a wave of general typical dispassionate low-effort trolling as well as genuine horror and indignation, which would mean this achieved the opposite temporarily. I'm also not sure how much of a factor my goofy and "autistic" style was in all of that. I believe those aggressive instincts will subside and people will start fixating a bit less on the pedofur component over time, though I'll know soon enough whether that prediction is erroneous.
There were two motivations besides the above generalized tactical incentive for doing this. One I characterize as benevolent and constructive, intended to bring enlightenment. There is this very acrimonious mystique which surrounds not just pro-reform MAPs like myself, but the MAP demographic as a whole. Hardly any of you have actually interacted frankly and intelligently with one of us, and very few of us present ourselves for examination. It is my hope that Kiwis and outsiders who come upon this will learn something, and I hope I too become more enlightened and perceptive as a result of this. I also wanted to force people here to realize that sometimes disfavored people are their allies in a cause and excel at something they need. It is undeniable that what I did in the TLL/Greta thread and wiki was extremely well received. The relative importance of that to the site and community is small. I'm the first to admit it was just a small fraction of the total exertions here. However, it's indubitable that my work in that one lolcow case was extraordinary. No one can deny that a pedofur analyzed, sorted, and presented reams of items others presented, and made an ideal article on these villains for the world in general to peruse. I hope people develop cognitively from this unwelcome shock as they're forced to ponder what they value more and whether they should ever respect even slightly a pedofur among them.
The other motivation is more primitive personal gratification and amusement, overall a secondary one. As I have stated before in a perhaps inadvertently more provocative manner, I like attention, even when it's in the form of critical scrutiny. Even if the best I can achieve here is 1/3 genuine inquiries and misc positive remarks versus 2/3 shitposting and weening, that 1/3 is many times higher than what I get now. Also, let's be honest here. Some of us like watching the astonishment and outrage of fellow Kiwis, myself included. I don't prefer that to the constructive and kinder/less unkind responses, but watching people irrationally flail and stomp around or make humorous retorts (I really like the one which depicts how my therapist really feels) because of me is still mildly entertaining. Because this is merely a tertiary impetus, I greatly limit the upset, trolling, and agitated exchanges I engender/engage in here. Many won't reciprocate despite my best efforts, and that's fine and dandy.
Analyzing what I'd likely lose or incur... I don't value contributing and posting as a regular Kiwi more than the aforementioned things. Losing the ability to contribute as I had would also provide the benefit of forcing me to invest the time and stamina I would have expended on further documentation or casual commenting into other projects. Honestly, the impetus for me creating this account was the persistent compulsion to comment on CWC and other drama, not the grand works and displays it turned into. That desire and novelty is largely attenuated now that I've indulged in it and there's now this drama.
Ineffectual trolling is the only likely negative consequence of all of this. With very few exceptions, the only lives this place has destroyed are those who facilitate and justify it by going to full-scale war with this community, and increasing its notoriety by bringing their thread and the site to their followers' attention. KF has little more power than their targets grant them. Save for a few miscellaneous exceptions, only in the very worst cases does RL harassment or abuse take place, and it seems that level of aggression is disallowed here anyway. Doxing and elaborate documentation are frightening and unpleasant, but the threat is generally illusory, the fear generally incongruent with reality. Hardly anyone outside of here knows what the fuck Kiwi Farms is or what this place contains, and probably at least half of those who do assume this is a transphobic bullying site anyway. 98% of people here are mere spectators, 1% are weens and low-level trolls, and the remaining 1% document and investigate. Hell, this thread only became animated because I came here and set off a conflagration, and it will likely go dormant again if/when I disengage and ignore it.
I do know there's maybe a 1-2% chance of something of a RL nature happening to me or my relations as a result of this thread and my involvement in it. I do take that seriously because I'm a highly cautious, self-judging, and defensive person by nature. I wouldn't cavalierly go off on adventures without at least trying to bring all risks to myself and others to negligible. However, even if I'm successfully doxed and there's a veritable frenzy about me over here, the likelihood of that transforming into anything perceivable and destructive to my life overall or within my physical area is low. This isn't meant to be construed as a challenge, but rather a cold and rational assessment of reality. I'm not going to live by a code of perpetual fear and repression because of highly unlikely outcomes. I have a fucking thread now and I'm going to indulge.
Here are my responses. I've done them somewhat out of order, bringing those to the more incendiary and impactful posts to the top for the greatest exposure. I likely won't be much active for the next several days since I have a lot of imperative stuff to attend to (yesterday was great but also brought more tasks).
I addressed this before, and I've spoken at length about my struggles with alcoholism here. When I wrote that, I was combining two separate notions into one sentence in a rushed and half-baked post while having a BAC high enough to kill or incapacitate the average person. It was not an allusion to anything criminal. I remembered that scenario of going to WrongPlanet while drunk in 2012 and trying to meet people even before I looked at the date. I would have deleted it or edited it soon afterwards (or not written it at all) if I had actually alluded to a crime.
Coincidentally, 5 years ago yesterday, I left the hospital following that massive bender and sincerely entered long-term treatment and rehabilitation.
I give a great deal of thought to the psychological ramifications of those sorts of pairings (and to general sexual expression and behavior) and criminal offenses. Actually, I'm doing more to combat sexual abuse of children as society defines it than you or virtually anyone else has here or elsewhere. Much of that journal you keep quoting gives very detailed and well-contemplated advice for people who wish to enter treatment to stop committing sexual felonies with regards to children, and to those who have other problems regarding their -philia. But of course, you deliberately ignored all of that.
Speaking of psychological ramifications, there has been scientific research which conforms to my views on that matter. This one, which entailed interviewing then-college students about their perceptions of sexual contact with adults while adolescents, was published by the APA's highly regarded journal and met rigorous scientific standards. It was so noteworthy and infuriating that the entirety of the US Senate denounced it while the APA defended the integrity of the study.
Oh, that. I removed them because I felt they were too exhibitionistic and detracted from my intended messages. Another drama community had come across those incidents, fixated on them, and severely distorted what I had written and intended. When I did a full round of revisions of my core documentation in the middle of last year, that was one of those things I revised to reflect my current literary proficiency and general awareness.
I described a couple of instances in 2011 where I weaponized my hebephilia and philosophy against innocent people. While in a psychiatric hospital for alcohol abuse, I decided in a fit of selfish misanthropic agitation it was a swell idea to announce to the other inpatients during a group I was sexually attracted to children and didn't necessarily find sexual contact with them immoral. This behavior was repeated in a group within an intensive outpatient program. I fully and categorically repudiate these misdeeds of mine. They were absolutely inexcusable. I assaulted people who had no role in my problems and had done me no harm whatsoever.
Believe it or not, I'm genuinely appreciative of the comparatively benevolent and assistive tone of this. Given the high scrutiny and high frequency of erroneous and severe assumptions and inferences, I feel it's imperative to least address the worst concerns here. What superior alternative to addressing them here do you propose? I'm sincerely asking for your advice on this since your direct and applicable experience dwarfs mine.
With all due respect, your tactical insight is absolutely abysmal. If I needed to limit interest in me and my case, coming here in dramatic fashion would be extremely antithetical to that. This thread has ballooned well over 10x in size since I acknowledged it and came here. No one even knew of the most incendiary essays until I provided them. Now, what I'm doing could theoretically help limit runaway speculation and interest down the road by presenting myself to address whatever salient points or unfounded accusations that emerge, but compared to the previous status quo I've caused awareness of this to skyrocket. This would be the last thing I would advise someone in such a precarious position to do.
Right. I didn't actually ask for that. I don't know why my missive was characterized that way.
I'm glad this is your favorite thread!
No, only my shirt has imagery of my fursona. Honestly, the artists like that idea since I'm giving them free and conspicuous advertising.
I have been quite civil and even-tempered. Also, something really did come up: life in general. I intermittently check KF, but actually analyzing posts and responding takes a lot of mental stamina and time, and I have other and more important things to do. This thread is only a moderately high priority.
I've occasionally remembered you and wondered whether you achieved more success with that issue. I'm glad you found my advice useful. I had never even conceived pulling another member aside on here and revealing all of that unflattering stuff about neurosis and alcoholism. I saw in that thread that you were severely struggling, and while I was somewhat busy and stressed I felt it was my duty to reach out. I had pondered nudging you after you went silent, but I assumed if you needed me you would have PMed me again. You are still welcome to PM me on that if you wish.
I know you've made very unflattering remarks about me elsewhere in the thread, but I still wish to convey my appreciation for the compliment about me and my miraculously rapid achievement of sobriety. I'm grateful that despite the assortment of severe problems and deficiencies at the time, I achieved permanent sobriety only 9 months after sincerely starting (which was just yesterday 5 years ago, actually), and maintenance after that was very easy. So many have a much harder time with that.
I also wanted to echo the other thing you said. Assistance and generosity doesn't necessarily come from people we fully embrace. My sponsor is a very intelligent, calm, and charitable person who really exemplifies the program, but holy FUCK does he anger me sometimes with his political rhetoric. He sounds like a partisan talking points memo whenever politics come up (which is relatively frequently with him), and it's very hard to remember his other qualities and his servicework during those moments. Goddamn he's so fucking infuriating and baffling sometimes. I actually need to call him pretty soon.
I think you're remembering Trybal Lupine or whatever his name was.
Well, it's my own thread, so it's an appropriate place for it.
He mostly listened, but he had to absorb a lot of information and learn about a community and certain concepts he's never heard of before. I think the impression he got was that I knew what I was doing and I had a firm understanding of the overall situation.
His overall style is rather passive and non-directive, though he doesn't hesitate to ask questions or to pose respectful challenges to an idea I have or behaviors I exhibit which he feels are flawed.
Obviously, therapists and other psych workers are paid to be respectful and useful, but I don't think his respect is feigned or exclusively a matter of money. Also, he's reimbursed somewhat less since my primary insurance is Medicare. Honestly, a LOT of therapists and offices don't take Medicare because either they're difficult to deal with or their reimbursements are too low, so he and others who take on Medicare patients are providing a charitable service to the community.
I wear it everywhere outside the house. My indoor attire is colorful and somewhat furryish as well, but far less furry and resplendent.
1.) Because I like reading and posting about idiotic and self-defeating furries, pedophiles, and other assorted lolcows.
2.) The capacity and will for destruction from KF is vastly overblown both by lolcows and Kiwis. Most furries and probably even most pedophiles who've gotten a thread or been mentioned here don't even know this place exists, let alone systematically destroyed. Except for extreme cases and flukes, the only ones to have their lives ruined are crazy and self-defeating lolcows who ultimately cause their own plights through lack of impulse control and other undesirable traits.
Your hypothesis has some merit in that scenario. However, it has one critical flaw: my arrival would generate extremely much more impetus for examination, so the theoretical benefit of massively curtailing that desire to delve and scrutinize wouldn't likely materialize before this thing was unearthed. Actually, I predict my presence here and the associated revelation will raise the baseline impetus to investigate permanently (or at least until everything's been read and discussed), so if I had something that severe to hide I would have never come here. It would have been extremely antithetical to my interests to do this if that was the reality.
The reason I am astonishingly polite isn't to suppress acrimonious intentions and interest (though it may well do that), but because I am generally behooved by that. If I thought I would derive more benefit from being a belligerent prick, that probably would have been my default approach. However, that would not achieve my aspirations or better my emotional state.
You know what? I am open to this possibility, and if this indeed is demonstrated within the next week or two, I will freely admit this major strategic error. It's still far too early to tell.
He knows of my sexual ideology. Why shouldn't I have told him that? Beliefs and orientations aren't per se report-worthy. My outpatient services in years past knew of all this while I was a client. I've also told him about my indulgence in cub erotica, and about other beliefs of mine which are offensive to the average person.
Oh, God. If she shows up here I'll die for sure, because she looks exactly like someone who I would befriend and my compatriots would let her right in. Maybe if I play up the innocent pretty furry femboy aspect she'll feel too guilty about murdering me to go through with it.
Actually, I hadn't even revealed that aspect before getting those bad reactions. They were genuinely distrustful, fearful, and startled by just the hebephilia. Say what you will about my beliefs, but it's highly counterproductive for the system to be disdainful of the entire demographic. No one should be judged for innate traits alone, let alone by doctor-level therapists.
Honestly, many therapists are entirely unsuited for the role for that or other reasons. My current therapist and another one I encountered at a convention share my sentiments. And of course, the autism complicates treatment in some ways, and the system seems very unsuited to properly treating and understanding autistic people despite all the hype about autism awareness- especially older adults who don't have the stereotypical defects in socialization and core life functions. I even had one woman who had ideal training for autistic clients tell me basically she didn't feel she was qualified/prepared for my case. That and the instances of disrespect and/or lack of empathy were profoundly frustrating.
Honestly, I hope that both sides benefit from this entire affair. My aspiration at the start was to have mutual entertainment (I still theorize that's the case with SolidMario), rather than just me laughing at this absurd spectacle. Of course, the rewards I receive need to outweigh the losses I incur and the plausible worst-case scenarios. I have determined the former outweigh the latter, at least right now. If both win with low cost, even better!
I still don't understand what it is that makes you enjoy KiwiFarms, because even though you keep denying it, your posts make it pretty clear that you're just as bad, if not worse, than the people you ridicule.
Do you really think that you have self-awareness? Because I sure don't.
You can't understand? It's actually pretty simple. He's making fun of these people because, at least in his mind, they are way worse, by comparison. Let's say he laughs at the Slaton Sisters. Sure, he may be a disgusting pedophile furry faggot, but at least he's not a fatty, like those two, right?!
Some people come here for fun. Some people come here to out internet crazies...And then some ARE internet crazies, lining up to cast stones, lest the stones be turned upon them
What the actual fuck @Roketsune @Field Marshal Crappenberg? To think I actually exchanged PMs with you and now you come out as a pedo autistic wannabe-tranny furry? You make me sick! I even called you sir and saluted you because you had an uniform!
I disagree with the OP (and most people here probably) that he is a cow. What sort of tard cum is he providing us? Has anyone laughed at him in the last 14 pages? I just feel sad and skipped all of his 80.000 word essays he probably writes after putting a dildo up his ass. Even the OP here has abandoned the thread, pretty much.
He also gets a pass for being one of the major contributors to the TLL wiki page. He did show huge sings of autism and self-importance while doing the work there, though. I guess now the pieces of the puzzle have formed a crisper image of what a creep he is.
@Field Marshal Crappenberg I'll be honest with you man. You're on the verge of losing all the respect you earned from me and the community back on the TLL thread. If you expect me to stay on your side from now on I want you to record a VIDEO explaining why it's OK to be attracted to little kids who don't know what they do - no long-ass posts, I won't read them as I didn't read any other so far because I actually have a life.
If you can, explain yourself in a 10-minute video and why we should accept you as a lolcow or I'm done with you - and I think others here too, since this thread seems to be boring everyone more than anything else at this point. Ball is on your court mate.
@keksz Sometimes, being too soft can be bad for the mind. Keep that in mind. Nobody like this should get any asspats from anyone here, especially furry pedophiles who gave their explanations before the thread was even created. Maybe Re-read the OP and you'll see.
Do tell about your relationship with him though, I am interested.
This dude will never have a pass just because he did some work on the TLL thread
Doing some internet research don't magically turn you into a good person, especially if you want to have sex with kids.
Idgaf about his work on any thread, he is a mentally ill degenerate and should be treated as one.
I really do want to know, since you think Roketsune deserves any sort of "pass", and the overall tone of your earlier post seems to imply you're willing to overlook and forgive all his fucked up shit, if he can just "explain himself"
Now I'm going to have to reread this OP and get in order which cow is which.
