William James Mitchell vs. Twin Galaxies LLC, Jeff Harrist & Jeremy Young & donkeykongforum.com, Benjamin Q Smith

[Chester Copperpot]

Imo, the legal ruling and financial burden from it did play a role in Apollo Legend's suicide, even if he didn't say so himself. Stress increases both mental and physical pain, so it would be weird for it to not be a factor at all. But that is just my personal opinion. Jobst probably should have made it abundantly clear that he was stating an opinion, especially since he lives in a Cuckin'wealth Nation, though I don't remember exactly what he said. I remember reading an analysis of the trial saying that Jobst's lawyers could've been doing a better job arguing in his defense, particularly on the points about Apollo.

I agree, and I think if Karl has said something to the effect of 'Although it was never mentioned by Apollo, I'm sure the stress of the litigation was a factor in his declining health and suicide' then he'd probably be ok. But he claimed there was financial stress caused by a settlement sum paid, refused to change it when told there was no settlement, then buried his retraction in the back of a 30min video on other things, whilst also posting constant content that he'll never back down from what he's said about Billy.

He's unfortunately like a lot in the non-legal field, where they get blinded by a sense of moral righteousness, and don't realise the legal system is autistically uninterested in your moral claims, or big picture arguments. He felt because it was generally true that Billy is full of shit, and understandable to think getting sued didn't exactly make Apollo LESS likely to kill himself, that he was all good.

 

[that_monika]

Do you live in Canada? "Yea here's your punishment for being a naughty boy, and something extra for daring to defend yourself"

The alternative is that the wronged party gets shafted for a huge amount of money for either defending themselves against something illegitimate or pursuing damages from someone who wronged them. "ok looks like you weren't a naughty boy, you win, enjoy five or six figures of debt for daring to defend yourself".

Realistically the ONLY damages Billy Mitchell incurred were his legal fees. Jobst's lies about him didn't cost him anything. A fair judgement would've been for Jobst to pay Billy's legal fees and be forced to issue a retraction of his lie, without any other punitive judgement being awarded. In addition to being fair, it would also disincentivize people like Billy from suing over petty bullshit like this, because he wouldn't actually gain anything from it.

 

[volatile puar]

What are the odds Karl makes a gofundme like Akilah Hughes to help pay?

I don't think it's particularly likely, since Karl probably realized how much a misstep it was to let people think he was being sued over video game scores. There's about a 30% chance he'll try, but I would expect most of the people who would otherwise be willing to donate are very upset about this.

 

[Jex]

The judge took one look at Karl’s lesbian haircut and knew what he had to do.

 

[BlueKirbo]

Gems from Karl's comments

 

[shoashuffle]

Holy shit, Jobst went to Apollo's brother and was given evidence that he was wrong, he never publicly retracted it or apologized. He just quietly edited it out to pretend it didn't happen. The more I read of this document, the worse he looks.

 

[Pus_Infection]

Bro me and Bryan Dunn were tag teaming faggots who thought this guy was gonna win. USA USA USA!

 

[Brian Oblivion]

Mitchell v Jobst defamation judgment:
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Lol at 12:30 "if only yew had listened to that keemstah fellah", admonished the kangaroo judge. What reality are we living in?

 

[TexOffender]

JOBST HAS TO PAY 243,349.47 USD TO BILLY FOR DEFAMATION

Karls lawyer is a piece of shit.

I believe in free speech but at the same time detest these grifters that just target people to stir up drama for views. This was bound to happen.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

Are you retarded? Jobs is still friends with the two people Apollo actually mentioned in his suicide note as being the cause of his suicide while Micheal wasn't mentioned at all by AL

You didn't even read his death note you nigger. It was speedrunners who got him to do it.

You know what, you're right. Not like he already was sued by the same guy for saying mean things about him and the guy has the moral compass of a politician and could've gone to extremes even post death right? I don't speak autistic so I know you really believe Billy Mitchell would've been a good boy and not done anything about being namedropped in a suicide letter after financially ruining a man. Spam your reddit negrates faggots, you're still massive black gorillas.

If someone kills themselves, that's still their personal decision.

True, although given the timeframes and what happened you'd think a judge would at least look at the legalities when it comes to assisted suicide or something. I know judges don't care about moral stuff in cases like these, but there are things in the books when it comes to these situations.

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

Karl's wife rn

 

[RarestRareFormRare]

Now that the dust has settled, Billy did use MAME for that record

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

I knew nothing about this case but I am shocked anyone could tolerate Billy Mitchell enough to want to reward him money.

 

[Throng of Titans]

Billy had top 10 scores in virtually every arcade classic in the early 80s. There are countless vintage interviews with countless people saying that he dominated everything - Pac Man, Centipede, Ms Pac Man, Donkey Kong, and even pinball. These records were often viewed live, on done in direct 1v1 competition, and undisputed.

He was rightly regarded as one of the greatest gamers of all time and, equally, a great ambassador for retro gaming, before that term even existed.

Then 'King of Kong' came out, suggesting he later played on emulators. This set the autistic troons on a jihad, they proved he had, in fact, played on emulators. And, because they're autistic retards and can't feel anything new, they just spiral into deranged repetition.

In 2010 it was: "Billy's evil because he fibbed about playing a game on an emulator"
In 2022 it was: "Billy is Orange Man Bad and we must kill him and his whole family. We can do it, Reddit!"

I'll give a singular bit of a bump to his detractors by pointing out that skill level doesn't directly affect whether someone's a cheater. A lot of cheaters are often really good, but the cheating is what gives them the extra edge over the competition.

I don't think even Billy's detractors have ever said he was a bad player (Unlike, say, incredibly obvious liar Todd Rogers), just a cheater.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Hahaha funny April fools!!!!

April Fools Day in Australia is in October.

 

[Zertes]

You know what, you're right. Not like he already was sued by the same guy for saying mean things about him and the guy has the moral compass of a politician and could've gone to extremes even post death right? I don't speak autistic so I know you really believe Billy Mitchell would've been a good boy and not done anything about being namedropped in a suicide letter after financially ruining a man. Spam your reddit negrates faggots, you're still massive black gorillas.

Yes, I am sure Apollo legend was really worried about being sued in death by Billy, maybe even have to foreclose his House in the afterlife. Listen to yourself nigger

 

[Rebel Wilson]

Hilarious seeing the intersection of the worst people on the forum (DSP alogs) also being Billy detractors. Makes me like him even more.

Here he is improving on his DK score and matching is pac man perfect score:

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Realistically the ONLY damages Billy Mitchell incurred were his legal fees. Jobst's lies about him didn't cost him anything. A fair judgement would've been for Jobst to pay Billy's legal fees and be forced to issue a retraction of his lie, without any other punitive judgement being awarded. In addition to being fair, it would also disincentivize people like Billy from suing over petty bullshit like this, because he wouldn't actually gain anything from it.

I wouldn't say there was no damages or the lawsuit was petty. It wasn't a single flippant remark or video, Karl went on a years long crusade against the man with the intent to destroy his reputation. I think anyone with the funds would sue at that point.

 

[NoMoreMisterNiceDoc]

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Karl's wife rn

"Orr husbant, yuu spend too muchu on rawsuit, now we owe our homu to Birry..."

 

[Slap47]

A$350K in damages. Billy Son-of-a-bitchell has done it again.

It is a possibility that Karl farmed Billy for content in preparation to lose, perhaps with the permission of Billy because he knew he would be getting the money...