US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[likeacrackado]

It's possible to have some sympathy for his 'cause' and believe that a planned assassination is worthy of the death penalty. Whether or not he lives out his days in prison or gets executed 15 years from now doesn't matter, hes not a leader. If his fans were serious they'd be following his example(no spray painting charging stations doesn't count) not crying over his possible death.

I am a simple man: If Bill Burr goes on a self-righteous whiny rant in favor of something, I'm against it. Regardless of whether Luigi was in the right or not, aw-shucks hicklib white "dudes" and iDubbzzz irony leftists made it cringe and so he must die.
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If Bill Burr is comfortable saying this you can be sure the sentiment is coming from a place of ineffectual safe edginess. See also his thinly veiled comments on "billionaries".

 

[The Nothingness]

Ive argued bitterly with many people I consider very intelligent and good individuals about this

"its murder, cold blooded murder" they say, "how can you justify the shooting of a man in broad daylight?"

How do you justify denying a 1/3rd of your paying customers life saving care?

What people forget is that if you're an asshole, you can't be surprised when bad things happen to you, nor should people who KNOW you're an asshole.

Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle, it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion, it's called murder?

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

What was this about? Was this the AI lawsuit/strike? I tried searching for it and only got results with her and OpenAI.

iirc they tried to screw her over for the Black Widow movie, she was going to get a cut of the box office, then they shunted it to D+ so she got jack

 

[mlanguishi]

Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle, it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion, it's called murder?

Back when Brits could be funny.

 

[John.Doe]

De-Banking is just the same thing. They can't put you in a death camp / gulag, the next best thing is to make you and your family homeless and unemployable and unable to speak in public until you kill yourself or waste away and don't bother them ever again. If Liz Dong Gone had his way, Null (and the rest of us) would be in a work camp farming free organic kale and quinoa for our "betters" for the rest of our lives, or dead in some unmarked grave for people guilty of hate-thoughts. But that won't work, so the next best option is banning us from ever speaking in public again.

Its an extension of their belief in constructed reality, these people are completely divorced from the actual world - they believe that the careful designed and fragile 'system' of abstractions like banking, laws, and social media are realer than reality. Its why they believe they can simply define away problems or censor people on the internet and that makes the problems go away. Usually, it does work - mostly, sometimes, for a while.

Some people have enough money, resources, and the personality to fight against this type of control. People like Alex Jones or Trump are likely to play into the system and try to beat them at their own game. This kind of person is a pretty rare bird, though.

Now, on normal people without this money or influence this tactic might yield some dividends, plenty of people will cuck and self delete. On the other paw, they might just find that some people undergo a dangerous transformation once they are completely 'canceled' and bankrupted. Some men, finding their future as a peaceful, productive citizen 'killed' will not try to rectify the situation by becoming physically dead to match. Instead, they will strike at those that have 'killed' them - after all, they have nothing to lose, they have already been murdered in every way except the metabolic.

The people behind these kinds of efforts are, in their hearts, cowards. Otherwise they wouldn't stoop to corrupting the social processes to achieve their aims. So I imagine that when the first violent backlash that puts several lawyers, CEOs and others in bodybags happens, they will back off from this tactic. For a while.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle, it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion, it's called murder?

Firstly, Luigi didn't kill the CEO in the heat of passion. That was a planned attack.

In theory, and this very important, IN THEORY, we have given up our right to enact violence upon our fellow man for any and every reason to the government because we don't want to live in a society where a man can just be killed walking down the street. So we enact penalties upon people who do that.

In return, the government is supposed to arbitrate on our behalf and carry out Justice in our stead as a neutral 3rd party.

As for war, war isn't murder. It's the state using violence to obtain political goals. But that sounds icky, so society calls it heroic.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Firstly, Luigi didn't kill the CEO in the heat of passion. That was a planned attack.

In theory, and this very important, IN THEORY, we have given up our right to enact violence upon our fellow man for any and every reason to the government because we don't want to live in a society where a man can just be killed walking down the street. So we enact penalties upon people who do that.

In return, the government is supposed to arbitrate on our behalf and carry out Justice in our stead as a neutral 3rd party.

As for war, war isn't murder. It's the state using violence to obtain political goals. But that sounds icky, so society calls it heroic.

Ed O'Neil in Wayne's World

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Ed O'Neil in Wayne's World

I've never watched Wayne's World.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

If that's the case, your Cornell reference would not go on to explicitly state that in civil trials, a JNOV can be entered for either party as shown below:
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That clarification is unnecessary if a JNOV can turn an acquital into a conviction.

SETTING ASIDE THE JURYS VERDICT AND ENTERING A NEW JUDGMENT IN FAVOR OF THE LOSING PARTY WITHOUT A NEW TRIAL, jurys verict, meaning either guilty or not guilty, judgment in favor of LOSING PARTY meaning either side could be the losing party and the new judgment happens without a new trial

Not only that but he even points out that it specified the LOSING party which would be the defendent in the a criminal trial. You don't really rule in favor or against the state in a criminal trial, only the defendent.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

I like how all homosexuals somehow can’t shut their mouth when it comes to leaking information.

Some gay nigger could probable walk backwards naked with his bussy spread up with both hands, doing a Goatse, into Area 51. Instead of jail, he would have a dinner date and some lispy fag showing him the aliens weiner and talk about how the feds are designing a bio weapon to only kill Chinese Han or something, lol.

There's a reason being homosexual was an instant firing offense or loss of security clearance for basically ever, and it wasn't just because they could be easily blackmailed.

Guy was literally caught with the murder weapon, a written manifesto admitting to the murder, and the fake ID he used at the hostel.

What incentive would the feds have to offer him a deal or pursue lesser charges? Luigi is possibly the most demonstrably guilty man in history.

This is like 911 for redditors and fat women.

Sadly they violated his maranda rights and chain of custody of the evidence, so he'll walk. If nothing else, SOMEONE in the Jury will nullify it.

 

[The Ugly One]

There are so many moving parts in the monstrosity that is the US healthcare system besides the healthcare companies. Anyone who lays all blame at the feet of healthcare companies is missing the forest for the trees.

Price disclosure would result in a lot of things healing themselves. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Slightly offtopic but im going to make it on topic with the following speculation

Trump is hypothetically cashing in all his Jew brownie points to borrow the "Jewish Natural Disaster creator" to fucking POUND Iceland with earthquakes (just had a PAIR of 5.0s unconfirmed reports of a 6.7) because a massive volcano is going off and Greenland is starting to feel it to.

Like a "see what we can do, ya sure you dont wanna play ball?"

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might be slightly off our shores but you know how we operate, if its close enough to us and bad it will become "Americas problem" to, wont give constant updates here, just wanted people to know about it
link to volcano stream
Link to earthquake monitoring

Thread for ongoing volcano shenanigans.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/volcano-in-iceland-erupts.178447/page-4#post-20975866

The NA and Eurasian continental plates spreading apart. It's been erupting in that same fissure on and off for the past 1.5 years. The region for the past 5.

 

[CyrusHowler]

whoops your coverage didn't have the cataracts rider, looks like you're denied coverage
enjoy blindness, stalker child

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Price disclosure would result in a lot of things healing themselves. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

dang, some president should make an order about hospitals putting out their prices or something

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Price disclosure would result in a lot of things healing themselves. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

You know what, dude? That's one of the smartest suggestions I've ever read or heard.

I was thinking to myself "how could this issue get solved?" The federal government making an example out of a company or two would only work for a little while. You can't boycott healthcare companies - if you get appendicitis, you're going to go to the hospital.

Price disclosures could work really well because then everyone would see how retarded the system is and hospitals, insurance companies, regulators, medical device companies, the whole goddamn thing would be forced to change or try to gaslight people. It's such a slight little thing that could have a wide range of positive impacts.

 

[autistic dog]

Firstly, Luigi didn't kill the CEO in the heat of passion. That was a planned attack.

In theory, and this very important, IN THEORY, we have given up our right to enact violence upon our fellow man for any and every reason to the government because we don't want to live in a society where a man can just be killed walking down the street. So we enact penalties upon people who do that.

In return, the government is supposed to arbitrate on our behalf and carry out Justice in our stead as a neutral 3rd party.

As for war, war isn't murder. It's the state using violence to obtain political goals. But that sounds icky, so society calls it heroic.

If Luigi argues what the CEO was doing was effectively murder then the court has to decide to make it legal precedence that it is or isn't. I am perfectly fine if they decide that starving someone to death or denying them lifesaving care isn't murder because then we can legally and openly make plans to do it to the CEOs.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

According to two people familiar with the discussions, among the proposals raised by members was a potential Civil Rights era-style “sit-in” protest, in which members would return to their old seats and refuse to leave them.

Lmao absolutely pathetic. Theater kids, all of them. They want it to be the Civil Rights Era so badly. I hate how education has basically deified that era.

 

[nelly98]

BREAKING: US 1Q GDP somewhere between the small, small range of -4% and +4%.

https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow

https://resources.newyorkfed.org/research/policy/nowcast#/nowcast

 

[Lian Xing]

Price disclosures could work really well because then everyone would see how retarded the system is and hospitals, insurance companies, regulators, medical device companies, the whole goddamn thing would be forced to change or try to gaslight people.

Not to power level, but my eyes were opened when my first child was born. There was confusion at the hospital as to how my child was covered so they sent me a bill. $24k, but they would take $18.5k cash with a number to call to negotiate that. My health insurance paid $36k. Yes, you all read that correctly.

We all think internet grifters are bad. They have nothing on the health insurance industry.

 

[CyrusHowler]

Are people monitoring the actual important things going on like the special elections instead of crying that a privileged rich boy greasy wop who murdered a slimeball CEO, who was mere weeks away from going to prison, is getting the chair?

Like can that be focused on instead of tards trying to compare leftoid spray paint tactics to being heroes of the Revolutionary War?