US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the Senate
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Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[indomitable snowman]

This might re-shore a lot of pharmaceutical manufacturing because so many of our drugs come from Indian facilities.

https://www.propublica.org/article/glenmark-pharmaceuticals-recalls-fda-inspection | https://archive.ph/Jdlzd
I think this was posted somewhere here before. But basically, indians shouldn't be allowed to make anything

When FDA inspectors went to the Glenmark plant last month — five years after the agency’s prior inspection — they discovered problems with cleaning and testing that they said could affect medicines that were shipped to American consumers.

In a report detailing their findings, the inspectors wrote that Glenmark failed to resolve why some medicines weren’t dissolving properly, and they raised concerns about the factory’s manufacturing processes.

“Equipment and utensils are not cleaned at appropriate intervals to prevent contamination that would alter the safety, identity, strength, quality or purity of the drug product,” the inspectors wrote.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

I like how you have no response you know I am right

You are A&N, the containment forum. Null pretends he hides this place and requires an account to view because of SEO or legal reasons but in reality it's because this place is an embarassment to the rest of the community.

 

[EatFatWomen]

because this place is an embarassment to the rest of the community.

this is a furry rp website, what embarrassment

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

That is why America is allowed to invade Iraq

I'm going to stop you there, no one on this planet "allows" America to do anything. The Strong do what they can, the Weak suffer what they must, the Spartans aren't coming to save the Eurocuck's asses. "Allow" like the fucking Euros can tell America what to do. Maybe we need to Allow the Eurocucks enjoy the full blessings of diversity if that's the attitude you roll in here with. Drop you from the Weak to the Raped. Allow, like the fucking embers of dead empires get a vote.

The "service economy" idiots were baffled when Russia was able to weather their sanctions despite having a "tiny" economy on paper.

Explaining that certain things like steel production are of strategic value, not just monetary, is lost on the modern small souled bugman. Doesn't make green line go up as much, must not be useful.

 

[Mister Fister]

You are A&N, the containment forum. Null pretends he hides this place and requires an account to view because of SEO or legal reasons but in reality it's because this place is an embarassment to the rest of the community.

It’s because you can’t defend your position of supporting the Vampire economy of 1980-2024 without getting rightfully savaged

 

[Professor Donger]

 

[autistic dog]

ORANGE TARIFF BAD!

 

[Sho'nuff]

this place is an embarassment to the rest of the community.

The only thing that unites is saying nigger.

 

[LowlyPheasent]

US "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse for the same reason Germany "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse, it just moved to less capital intensive, higher margin buisnesses that depend on R&D (like software, finance, etc etc). It's not like the US does not manufacture, it's just that ,because in manufacturing everything is a race to the bottom, having a manufacturing-dominated economy is incompatible with high salaries, unless, of course, you'd also like to artificially rise those salaries through either agressive trans-company collective negotiation or stupid high protections that force profit margins to be even lower. Playing in industries that are not races to the bottom allow for uncapped growths for capital owners while mantaing higher wages for workers without much goverment intervention. This is also why China stopped being number one on manufacturing shitty goods like clothes, they are also trying to switch to a services-heavy economy, just through a more direct intervention rather than pure market forces.

The service industry doesn't mean shit when they outsource the service industries too. The number of times I've been scolded about how manufacturing and proper labor's demise was "actually a good thing(tm)" and yet we are no better for it and the faggot coders who turned their nose up at me now are being replaced by bots after also being replaced by literally anyone else. Service industries suck, are easily outsourced, and aren't a solution.

 

[GettrGriftr]

Bros am I tripping right now or is this happening?

Not exactly USPG material, but I see it too. A small child/angel playing a little harp.

I see it. Don't know what it means, but I see it.

 

[Zacaria's Hours]

You’re retarded, those fields don’t create wealth. Your thinking has fucked over the average American. Go fuck yourself.

No, they extract wealth from the manufacturing countries lol. Banks, law and consultancies (even though consultancies are basically a scam) produce the conditions for sub 5% interest rate loans, which help everyone deploy what is esentially free money, and extract from whatever wealth growth occurs nationally and abroad. I don't think you get how much more fucked the average American would be if they were like people in Europe or Asia, following your line of thinking.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

If your a random country IDK Norway, why should you work with America over China ? What does America offer you that you can't get anywhere else ?

I guess nothing, depending on your views. If you are a strictly pragmatic society whose longest-running institution is systemically crushing the spirits of any and all individualists so that everyone can be united in abject mediocrity then I can't see how you "lose" anything by joining up with China. Why haven't you done it already? You basically have ideological parity as is. Take a belt-fed shotgun to your nation's standard of living so that, some day, this enormous slave caste of spiritless people can reside in off-world colonies mining asteroids and being ejected into the vacuum of space once they've outlived their usefulness. If you really think about it, Combloc hasn't been tried before.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-848629 Economic officials in Israel are in complete shock over the Trump administration's decision to impose a 17% tariff on Israel. "We are in shock. We were sure that the decision to completely cancel tariffs on imports from the U.S. would prevent this move. But it didn't happen." An official said: "Its going to be hard, but we will work to change the decision. The decision is unjustified"

is there somebody more specific than "an official"?
not being bitchy, but I'm wondering if we can get a bead on if it's The Subsecretary Assistant To The Vice Chamberman's Page or Head Of Tariff International Stuff or a mistranslation of some Professional Expert title

 

[Jump]

Other countries have been stealing our industries for far to long with tariffs and I'm honestly sick of it. Remember America used to be the number 1 exporter on cars with the largest manufacturing industry for vehicles in the world, until countries decided to leverage exorbitant tariffs to protect their own automobile industries, then our manufacturers figured out it'd be better to just move production to said countries instead of eating a ridiculous 100%+ tariff. This is why the rust belt exists

I've lived in the rust belt my whole life. I grew up walking past massive abandoned factory complexes and crumbling public spaces. And I have lived with an ever growing property tax burden as our industrial tax base has vanished.
At this point I don't give a shit if there is a risk Trump's plan ends up not working. I am just glad someone finally trying to DO SOMETHING to turn the tide. And if it doesn't work at least we get to see those faggot canadians get wrecked.

People are so fucking worried the prices of Funko-Pops and Gayman GPU's might go up 30% they would rather just keep living with status quo of our steady decline. The rest of doom posters here are likely europoors or members of the laptop class.

 

[Bindo]

When is Trump going to get around to addressing the amount of undocumented Kiwis
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its a good thing they are illiterate because with such a numerical disparity, the second they were to become aware they would overrun us and overthrow us

for real though how many of those are just straight up Feds or atleast Fed interns?

A good chunk of those are probably people like me who only login from a single device.

 

[Mister Fister]

No, they extract wealth from the manufacturing countries lol. Banks, law and consultancies (even though consultancies are basically a scam) produce the conditions for sub 5% interest rate loans, which help everyone deploy what is esentially free money, and extract from whatever wealth growth occurs nationally and abroad. I don't think you get how much more fucked the average American would be if they were like people in Europe or Asia, following your line of thinking.

You must be a finance Vampire.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

It’s because you can’t defend your position of supporting the Vampire economy of 1980-2024 without getting rightfully savaged

Sorry I don't argue with spoiled manchildren pretending to be working class

 

[Fuck Bankers]

You will never convince these retards that going back to Industrial Revolution tier economics isn't a viable strategy for the 21st century. Once someone dares to call it a recession, they'll just blame anyone except Trump for failing to enact his policy of supporting American businesses.

>Industrial Revolution tier
>we need more industry
>for some reason the laws of economics just changed
If it doesn't work, then why does everyone else do it?

 

[Waifu Denier]

US "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse for the same reason Germany "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse, it just moved to less capital intensive, higher margin buisnesses that depend on R&D (like software, finance, etc etc). It's not like the US does not manufacture, it's just that ,because in manufacturing everything is a race to the bottom, having a manufacturing-dominated economy is incompatible with high salaries, unless, of course, you'd also like to artificially rise those salaries through either agressive trans-company collective negotiation or stupid high protections that force profit margins to be even lower. Playing in industries that are not races to the bottom allow for uncapped growths for capital owners while mantaing higher wages for workers without much goverment intervention. This is also why China stopped being number one on manufacturing shitty goods like clothes, they are also trying to switch to a services-heavy economy, just through a more direct intervention rather than pure market forces.

Germany remained a manufacturing powerhouse until a decade ago, when they decided to kneecap their supply chains and input costs with Net Zero. It didn't get to be the engine of Europe by paying the lowest wages in Europe. America prior to the implementation of GATT and other free trade agreements following WWII was also a manufacturing powerhouse, not because of its cheap labor, but because of its investment, factor production, and technological endowment, during a time when the US maintained the highest tariffs in the developed world while maintaining the highest rate of economic growth. The idea that "a manufacturing-dominated economy is incompatible with high salaries" is non-congruent with history. Even China doesn't compete on labor costs anymore, otherwise SEA or India would be the world factory now, they compete on a highly developed manufacturing apparatus, similar to what the US once had.

 

[DrakosBiz]

I was debating whether I should build a new gaming PC or just phase out gaming from my life because games fucking suck now. I think I have my answer now.

The more I want to the more I feel it nessasary to just hold onto the money. I don't need it but better to have it than not to.