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Should be a wild four years.

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US "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse for the same reason Germany "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse, it just moved to less capital intensive, higher margin buisnesses that depend on R&D (like software, finance, etc etc). It's not like the US does not manufacture, it's just that because manufacturing everything is a race to the bottom, having a manufacturing-dominated industry is incompatible with high salaries, unless, of course, you'd also like to artificially rise those salaries through either agressive trans-company collective negotiation or stupid high protections that force profit margins to be even lower. Playing in industries that are not races to the bottom allow for uncapped growths for capital owners while mantaing higher wages for workers without much goverment intervention. This is also why China stopped being number one on manufacturing shitty goods like clothes, they are also trying to switch to a services-heavy economy, just through a more direct intervention rather than pure market forces.
You say they're doing it to maintain salaries higher but areas like the rust belt have been destroyed financially to the point people have fled those states. They're making far less money than they used too, how come this movement of industrial power hasn't made their states richer in return for a "service based approach" why didn't any of those plants that produced goods be converted into business that are less "capital intensive" instead of being destroyed. This logic does not work because those industries are still invested in heavy "capital intensive" industrial production, they're just invested in other countries and not our own, in fact they're producing far more than they used to.
All this type of shit does is fuck over middle america, it's been literal decades since those manufacturing industries left states and those states have still not even come close to recovering, they have the lowest employment rates, lowest wages, etc.
On top of this "higher slaries" the stats do not lie kike, inflation has increased 3 times more than salaries have, people can't afford or buy as much as they used to, in FACT the average household is buying extensively less than they did even a decade ago.
 
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Liberation day might be Trump's most out of touch retarded decision yet. He is going to unite the entire world against America at a time when America can't afford that.

Strategic autonomy is one thing, The mainstream of America was already investing in that. Biden and his chips act and made in America economic plan. He is desperately trying to recreate a fantasy where America is the only show in town when that just isn't true anymore.

If your a random country IDK Norway, why should you work with America over China ? What does America offer you that you can't get anywhere else ?
The only sane post here
 
Europe were by and large happy with the status quo so what is the point
They were happy being dependent on a country run by ULTRA HITLER: AGENTORANGE? Why didn't they just ask the OG HITLER for military protection instead of fighting him?

Here is where you have to admit Trump isn't Hitler and your just hysterical like a woman or be THANKFUL he is giving Europe time to rearm before he begins Holocaust 2: Jewlectric Space Laser Boogaloo (will put more hair on American men's chest that way).
 
You say they're doing it to maintain salaries higher but areas like the rust belt have been destroyed financially to the point people have fled those states. They're making far less money than they used too, how come this movement of industrial power hasn't made their states richer in return for a "service based approach" why didn't any of those plants that produced goods be converted into business that are less "capital intensive" instead of being destroyed. This logic does not work because those industries are still invested in heavy "capital intensive" industrial production, they're just invested in other countries and not our own, in fact they're producing far more than they used to.
All this type of shit does is fuck over middle america, it's been literal decades since those manufacturing industries left states and those states have still not even come close to recovering, they have the lowest unemployment rates, lowest wages, etc.
Well, they left because you cannot convert a car factory into a law firm or consultancy, the only reason those towns existed dried up, just like how old mining towns had to die when their natural resources dried up. Does it suck? Yes, but the only way to bring them back to life is to make their industries competitive again, and because those buisnesses are races to the bottom, you're either going to increase the cost of everything more massively (probably beyond the tariffs, because if say, Vietnam has a cost of living that is one third of what's in the US, you'd need to raise tariffs to the point where things are a 3 times more expensive for the US salaries to be competitive with Vitenamese salaries), and that's going to ensure people have access to less goods which means buisness compete for a smaller pie. I get what you're saying and empathize with it, but there's also a point where towns really do lose a reason to exist, and to artificially preserve that lifetime at the cost of everything else is not probably a good idea in the long run.
Although, if you see it as a Middle America vs Costal States fight, I think that's fine too, but shit's gonna get a lot uglier once the more populous and (right now) productive costal states get their turn to wear the boot.
 
Reading history so far, I came to the conclusion that the US has plot armor, but rather than guiding the world by a silent and honorable example, it became an annoying evangelist armed to the teeth.

I'm just glad that this country is stepping back to attend to itself, and allow other nations to fumble over by their own idiocy, rather than force globohomo down everyone's throats at gun point.

The US empire is over, and so is neo-liberalism. Get over it and seize the chance to make American goods and services before someone else does it for you.
 
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All this type of shit does is fuck over middle america, it's been literal decades since those manufacturing industries left states and those states have still not even come close to recovering, they have the lowest unemployment rates, lowest wages, etc.
Because they doubled down on manufacturing magically returning in all its past glory rather than accept that the world changed. I have zero sympathy.
 
He is desperately trying to recreate a fantasy where America is the only show in town when that just isn't true anymore.
Bait but, why can't it be? We have automation, spaceships being reused, natural resources... Vietnam and Japan can still be players, but American wants to be on top.

Didn't globalist Klaus say it was "the great reset?" China created covid to gain power, why can't we manufacture our own economic success?
 
US "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse for the same reason Germany "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse, it just moved to less capital intensive, higher margin buisnesses that depend on R&D (like software, finance, etc etc). It's not like the US does not manufacture, it's just that ,because in manufacturing everything is a race to the bottom, having a manufacturing-dominated economy is incompatible with high salaries, unless, of course, you'd also like to artificially rise those salaries through either agressive trans-company collective negotiation or stupid high protections that force profit margins to be even lower. Playing in industries that are not races to the bottom allow for uncapped growths for capital owners while mantaing higher wages for workers without much goverment intervention. This is also why China stopped being number one on manufacturing shitty goods like clothes, they are also trying to switch to a services-heavy economy, just through a more direct intervention rather than pure market forces.
Maybe what Trump is trying to do is have a balanced economy?

To my understanding both the agricultural and of course the service sector of the US are doing alright all things considered while manufacturing fell behind. I believe that having your economy dominated by a single sector is inherently unhealthy and leads to many problems.

Also MAGA is kinda like capitalist juche-lite so having a balanced and self sufficient economy is necessary for that vision. And America has the geographic potential to make it happen.
 
And now consider that the US has the 5th highest median salary in the world, only behind meme states like Luxenburg. The world is omegafucked in general, the US is still getting a better deal despite everything.
Increase of salary does not matter when you can't afford the shit that is 3 times as expensive as the median increase. Consumerism in America is down nearly 100bil dollars on average
 
You’re retarded, those fields don’t create wealth. Your thinking has fucked over the average American. Go fuck yourself.
The "service economy" idiots were baffled when Russia was able to weather their sanctions despite having a "tiny" economy on paper.

Pushing paper around like NYC and DC do is completely useless and the rest of the country would not notice if they disappeared.
 
And now consider that the US has the 5th highest median salary in the world, only behind meme states like Luxenburg. The world is omegafucked in general, the US is still getting a better deal despite everything.
I agree, the world is fucked.

That’s why we should maintain the same paradigm that got us here for as long as possible.

The line must go up.
 
The "service economy" idiots were baffled when Russia was able to weather the sanctions despite having a "tiny" economy on paper.

Pushing paper around like NYC and DC do is completely useless and the rest of the country would not notice if they disappeared.
Here’s the hilarious part, the Job losses post 2020 have been vastly disproportionately of these paper pushing jobs.
 
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