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Should be a wild four years.

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i urge you and your assfaggot friend not to be so incapable of using thread search. here is literally him saying that americans will be poorer and no longer able to afford luxury items. no mention at all of other countries, no mention at all of other tariffs. if you both meant other countries would also be suffering, why didn't you say so? come on, bud, i need an answer for this. you guys have constantly dodged every point i've made with no actual point to make yourself. you have no retort to the fact that this is only affecting rich faggots, and that even a 35% increase on a 3 dollar gallon of milk only makes that gallon of milk 4.05.

if you are actually going to go completely destitute because of a short term increase of this small an amount on daily necessities, you are well WELL below the poverty line, and already qualify for multiple forms of welfare. what is the goal you're trying to reach here? you can't even keep the statements people make straight. i'm also not going to argue with you anymore on this shit, because you could not understand this any less if you had a degree in faggotry from the university of retardation.
You are genuinely one of the dumbest people on this thread.
Nobody said that "wasn't this only supposed to hurt america? weren't all the other countries in the world supposed to be totally insulated from any consequences".
Also you have to be extremely dumb to think this only affects "rich faggots", you really dont understand how tariffs work, "rich faggots" will be fine, the not rich faggots will see the price hikes.
But anyways, keep sperging.
 
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noooooo you can't hire americans noooooo
don't worry, the thread has assured us all americans will be so deeply unable to afford food next week that we'll be rioting against trump for forcing us to starve, the paper mills won't have time to reopen.

at the same time, meanwhile
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but nope, we'll never get any concessions, america is doomed, and the line will never go up again. it's not like this is literally working right before the eyes of burger-suited doomers who know their crystal is warming up as we speak. fatpacks is far more entertaining than these aggressively stupid and uneducated niggers who actively do not understand the stock market, and think that because they gamble, they're better than other people. they'll go on and on about how the tariffs hurt the lowest classes, and then the only people complaining about it are the people who are apparently so high and mighty above the filthy poors that they think a poor person can't even understand economics. this is a new level of retard.

i'll be interested to see how long it takes canada to come to the negotiating table, since ford was already saying they'd want to lift the tariffs as early as today.
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Normal people made millions off of GME. They did the math and realized it was being nakedly shorted and exploited the hell out of it.

A naked short is an illegal act where someone loans out shares that don't exist.

A short trade is a loan of shares, not money. Those borrowed shares are immediately sold for cash, and the borrower must repay the loan in shares. The bet is the price will fall and the shares can be bought back for cheaper. The borrower pockets the difference.

If the price of the shares go up, the lender can issue a margin call. Which is to demand the shares be immediately returned.

in a short squeeze, there are more shares shorted than exist in the market. If lenders start issuing margin calls, the borrower has no choice but to buy the shares on the market for whatever price they can get it. If a ton of people hold onto their shares and don't sell them, the price rockets up. This causes more lenders to issue margin calls and a vicious cycle continues until all the shorts exit the trade.

People use Robinhood halting buy orders of meme stocks as evidence of the market being rigged, but they don't understand how the market works.

It takes 3 days for a trade to formally settle and be complete. You can't legally retrade those funds until they settle. Robinhood literally ran out of cash to buy more shares with because of demand.

Fidelity never stopped buy orders of GME, just like many other large brokers.
I have an acquaintance who believes the entire global financial system is about to implode because of what happened with GME in 2020-2021. Literally believes the Trump Tariff is because of Gamestop and the shorts cratering the actual value of the global market.
 
Governor of the Colony of Canada is talking

Acting Governor of Canada Mark Carney


"unprecedented tariffs"
"designed to reshaped the international trading system"
"Effects will be monumental"
"latest reciprocal tariffs won't be enacted on Canada"
"latest auto tariffs have come in"
"there weren't recent tariffs, but these tariffs will change Canada and the world"
"they're unjustifed, unwarrented, and and in our judgement misguided"
"local 444 said windsor plant will be shutting down for 2 weeks"
"3600 workers out of work"
literally posting Ls

"US customs said 97% drop in Fent seized"
"We weren't listed as a US threat"
"Senate voted to repeal, a symbolic gesture"
"Canada is a main supplier of the US"
"Steel and Aluminum tariffs"
"Clear violation of trading agreements"
"Canada has upheld those agreements"
"The Auto pact"
"this will rupture the global economy"
"the global economy is fundamentally different now"
"the system that has brought prosperity to our country for decades, is now over"
"our old relationship of furthering integration is over"
"trust and mutual respect"
"free trade"
"all over"
"new reality"
"we are a free and sovereign country"


"We're fighting in courts, that they've violated US law, free trade agreements, and international law" ;(
"counter tariffs"
"We will match the US approach"
"will not affect auto parts, or Mexico"
"every dollar raised, will go directly to auto works and companies"
"

stutter
"this will cause maximum impact in the US, and minimum in Canada"
"strategic sectors"

"Trump and I last week agreed PM and He will be speaking on a new trade and security agreement"
"Canada must be looking else where to protect our trade and sovereignty"
"coalition of countries that share our values"
"We believe in the free exchange of goods, services, and ideas"
"if no one wants to lead, Canada will" - HAHAHAHAHA


"for those of you worried about your pay check"
"we'll do everything in our power to help you"
"because we are Canadian we will always look out for each other"



13 seconds



"protecting our workers are our most important priority"
"in our coming weeks, and months, and years, we have to think bigger"
"Canadians that are buying canadian, changing travel plans"
"Fires in LA, Canadians have done extraordinary things for Americans" 51st state
"Breaking down internal trade barriers"
"Making Canada more productive and competitive" hope you're ready to do 70 hour weeks in the pod canuck
"Meet a teacher... she told me about a boy who didn't want canada to become the US" 51st state


"After damage to their own people, US will change course"
"But don't want to give false hope"
"he believes this will help American workers"
"but until that pain is too hard to bare, they won't change course"
"This will be hard on canada, and other partners"
"it will require sacrifice"
"We will rise, because that's who we are as Canadians" HAHAHAHAHA
stutter


"we have public healthcare"
"we confronted our past as colonizers"
"we defeated fascism"
"we aren't perfect, but we're good"
"we don't do things because they're easy, we do them because their right" how fucking gay
"don't worry, with your spirit, we will build a better Canada"
"we are canada"



"The core tariffs, with fent, autos, steel and aluminum"
"we have the best steel"
"that's progress"
"Future PM and Trump will renegotiate Trade and security"
"won't make progress on individual things"
"with a relationship that is being re-defined"
"I wanna be PM OwO"



"what do you mean by trade and security agreement"
flounders
"there have been so many violations of trade agreements"
"there has to be 60 day consultations"
"which elements of the trading relationships stand"
"they may change"
"we also renegotiate defense and security"
"we want that to work for canada"
"80% of our dollars on military equipment, goes to the US"
"currently that doesn't make since" playing with fire
"12% reciprocal tariffs hanging over our heads"
"certain sectors, that fundamentally rely on that integration"
"Autos is the main sector"
"the main competitor is Asia"
"most Auto experts agree, except the UAW, which they're gonna find out" threat?
"will hurt Canada and US and will help Asia"
"if integration doesn't happen, what will canada go on it's own"
"no matter what liberals are doing full made in canada"
"we can't focus on 1 issue"
"jobs investors and business"
"are you planning to talk with Trump"
"yes"
"we will be retaliating"
"the relationship between US and Canada is over, is the US our Ally?" this bitch is nuts
"most important military, ally most important trade ally"
"part of what our relation has been based on is our trade becoming more integrated"
"creates real challenges for us"
"enormous opportunity, we have everything the world wants"
"europe wants to work with us, Mexico wants to work with us" - No Ports
"team canada approach"
"not sugar coating the hurt"



"you talked about that old relationship with tight military and security being over, what does that mean for NORAD"
"I'm focusing on the Trade relationship"
"we should have a customs Union"
"we aren't gonna do that now"
stutter
"there might be some sectors..."
"military and security relationship is our most important one, I'm not declaring that"
"we signed another security relationship with Australia"
"diversification of maritime assets"


"You said long and hard road, is canada leading toward a recession?"
"well look..."
"these tariffs will affect the global economy"
"the US economy is slowing, and inflation is up"
"US has a possibility of recession"
"If the US does, then Canada usually does"
"in 2008 we didn't"
"re-imagine our economy in the medium term"
"build homes, ports, trade infrastructure, etc"
"new possibility"
"protect our workers"
"build our economy, to avoid the slow down that is coming ... well"
 
Then you have sheep and the mainstream media just ignoring this fact and crying about Trump and how this is going to destroy the country. Have people always been this retarded or is the hatred for Trump really this bad?
Both. People are retarded. And the uniparty hates trump.

If Biden or any other DNC stooge did this, they'd be praising them. But they never did this under their leadership because America to them is an economic zone. Meant to be taken advantage of.
 
Why does a net food exporter import basic groceries like milk?
we don't need to. our dairy industry KNOWS it's self-sufficient. if you've seen the amount of milk that's wasted constantly, it would make you angry.

there is no actual necessity to buying food from outside the US for basic necessities, only for luxury items which always increase in price during any economic hardship. if you want american farms to have the job of supplying the vast majority of american basic necessities, you need to make sure that food imports are more expensive than simply making and shipping the food within the country. you cannot simply subsidize the milk production, because that will do nothing but result in simply adding dumped milk to the already retarded amount that's dumped out even ignoring times like the pandemic, where demand for things like this dropped.

that's why the argument that the poors will be most affected by this is just wrong. it's already been laid out, they just don't like it, so they continue to act like literal children and don't address a single point made. you can look and see that they will attack people like me personally but they will not provide the alleged explanation of the economics to anyone, even to 'own' me, because they don't have one. it's not even worth it to engage with faggotry like that, because it's done out of ignorance or spite, neither of which will be cured here.
 
As a American, I don't give a single shit about any other country. Why should I care about another country's industry when my own is suffering. So fuck them and honestly they could get bent.
Not to mention this whole time theyve been fucking us with barbed wire while trying to act superior. They only deserve the worst.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it why the government cheese caves exist?
yes. it is a surplus stockpile, and it is 1.4 billion pounds. that's the kind of dairy output the united states has, we can just keep 625,000 tons of cheese on hand. almost all of our out of country dairy purchases are specialty products, meaning high dollar luxury goods, which poor people do not buy because it is retarded to buy luxury cheese when you can get a brick of cheddar for dirt cheap.
 
Apple lost $270B in value. Suffah, hipsters.
yes. it is a surplus stockpile, and it is 1.4 billion pounds. that's the kind of dairy output the united states has, we can just keep 625,000 tons of cheese on hand. almost all of our out of country dairy purchases are specialty products, meaning high dollar luxury goods, which poor people do not buy because it is retarded to buy luxury cheese when you can get a brick of cheddar for dirt cheap.
What amazes me about gubbmint cheese is that I didn't know cheese had a shelf life of decades. Those caves must be stinky.
 
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Apple lost $270B in value. Suffah, hipsters.

I didn't know cheese had a shelf life of decades.
it's a fascinating read that came about basically because we had a dairy shortage in the 70s.
Tariffs on fucking Penguins.
i know this is probably a joke, but apparently the penguins shipped us 1.4 million dollars of "Machinery and Electrical", so there was absolutely someone taking advantage of a trade loophole somewhere.
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