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Should be a wild four years.

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okay, so you are confirmed to be illiterate, you did not read what i posted.


is that why they were shocked to find they were on the list of tariffs, and responded angrily when they commented on it? jesus fucking christ, you can't even spell correctly.

cite, you dumb nigger, cite. fucking christ, learn how to speak english at least to the level of an actual child before you try and claim you're fucking american, it's blatantly obvious to even the most backwards bumpkin that you aren't english first language at all. if you're 'american' you're definitely the child of illegals.
Israel doesn't export much to America anyways it doesn't mean anything.
 
Can anyone tell me why the tarrifs are good ? The only defense I have seen of them is that they punish people you don't like. Which isn't even true. Tarrifs overwhelmingly hurt the working class and indirectly benefit the rich. I saw someone complain about overpaid desk worker. You think an overpaid desk worker is going to notice a 300 dollar increase on a gpu ? No but a working man trying to buy it for his son will.
Increased tax revenue will allow the government to pay down the deficit, provide single payer Healthcare, and colonize space. The excess beyond that will then be used to create social programs to help out the working man.

You are welcome to say it won't collect enough for this as that's also an admission it won't cause excess burden on a working man. Either it collects money the government can use or it doesn't and won't impact anyone's wallet.
 
If Dear Leader makes us all homeless and bankrupt, it is certainly for the greater good
>its the year 2027
>Tarrifs just hit 770%
>homelessness at 93%, bankruptcy at 96%
>we all shuffle about the streets staring longingly at the rows of empty homes
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Computer what happened in 1929?
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I started this post to make fun of Hollywood for thinking ALL the homes just fall into the earth when they are foreclosed on and I was expecting to google the above info and find it REVERSED

We might be in for a bumpy ride boys

This dosent make you right btw Hulk, just a little but of a coward who is unwilling to endure a little hardship now so that all of our offspring and their offspring might inherit a country not beholden to 100 different nations for our daily bread and salt.
 
Heaven forbid the globohomos throw a bitch fit while someone tries to bring back industry and to stop spics from suppressing wages so there is actual competition for workers to drive up wages and maybe have people feel fulfilled and have some pride again.
Globalism didn't just take jobs from us, it took everything from us. Things get really good for a handful of people at the cost of everyone else. First, it destroys the jobs. Then, it destroys culture. Since X thing is no longer present, people no longer learn X skill. Inevitably it destroys entire industries because people no longer learn X thing, X dies out completely. Then entire towns die. Then entire states die. Then entire sects of the country die. The Midwest is absolutely butt raped from Globalism.

Meanwhile, Boomer Faggots made money hand over fist with no regard or concern for anything they destroyed. They profited while they ground entire industries to the fucking dirt in America. Then, since line don't go up no more, they placed massive financial burdens on future generations to force line to go back up. When that stopped working, they got into politics and altered laws. Now in the Biden era, when line once again stopped going up, they just said "Fuck it! They're only numbers. Let's just make them up!". They lied, cheated, and stole to force line to go up, never down and became wickedly wealthy and pulled up the ladder for everyone after them. For decades. Then they have the fucking GALL to call Millennials, and Gen Z, and Gen Alpha stupid and lazy.

You want to know why kids today are fucking useless? It's because our society is broken where useless jobs make more money than actual working jobs. This playing field used to be more even. So naturally, their children learned the lesson: don't work, just chase dollars. It's more profitable for me to be an accountant than a mechanic. So when I go home, instead of being able to show my son or daughter how to change oil, I can't. I also can't explain to them how to be an accountant so I have NOTHING to teach them because no 7 year old gives a flying fuck about accounting. What people don't realize about parenting is that skills translate. If I'm a 7 year old, my logic is if I can pour my own juice, I can put my own bread in the toaster. Congrats, I can now make my own fucking breakfast. Kids won't learn accounting, but they are interested in building things. Those things translate into other things and they grow into smart, successful adults. However, thanks to Globalism gutting markets, the jobs that serve societal purposes pay such utter dogshit compared to generally useless jobs.

The real jobs are then further gate kept by Unions who keep down wages and slow career growth to a crawl or are steeped in astronomical schooling costs for college and post graduate studies. Apprenticeship is a virtually dead concept and instead got replaced with Masters and PhD programs. If I can go to school for 6 years to get an MBA, and then go off to make hundreds of thousands of dollars as paper pusher, what motivation is there for me to spend twice the time and effort becoming a doctor? Kids followed their parents example and became accountants instead of doctors. They became leftist journalists. They became social media influencers. They became travel bloggers. They became Kotaku writers. They're only chasing money, so whatever makes the money for the least amount of effort is what I do. Why should I build cars when I can make better money as a JewTuber? Then Masters and PhD programs had to lower their standards to get more students and now we have retards for doctors. Entropy has set in and these systems are failing. To bring this all back to Globalism- labor jobs went kaput, forcing people to choose useless paper pushing jobs that bring NOTHING to society other than imaginary line go up. Which then over time, caused rapid entropy in children leading to our systems crumbling and failing. Was this always the rat race? To a degree, but what Globalism did was drastically up the ante. Globalism robbed us of our culture and children of their futures. Globalism robbed America of EVERYTHING. So to the Boomers crying about Trump and Tariffs: I don't give a flying fuck. Go retire and piss off already.

The media is right about one thing though, you can't bring back society from 100 years ago. However, that's not what I wanted Trump to do. What I wanted and what I've always wanted all my life was a new world. Now it looks like we're going to get it. Personally, I couldn't be happier.
 
Increased tax revenue will allow the government to pay down the deficit, provide single payer Healthcare, and colonize space. The excess beyond that will then be used to create social programs to help out the working man.
We could also do that by just raising taxes. I actually support raising taxes but no one here fucking does.

Also Trump has never claimed to be for social programs where the fuck are you getting this. He called Kamal Harris a Marxist in the debate because she supported more social programs.
 
Don't bother with him. He's just mad his retirement 401k is paying out a hundred dollars less this month and he won't be able to get as much out of his reverse mortgage if the trend continues.
Actually everytime someone invokes the Hulkster they should pay a tariff to me, and it should be doubled if Hulkster came on his own volition.
 
We could also do that by just raising taxes. I actually support raising taxes but no one here fucking does.

Also Trump has never claimed to be for social programs where the fuck are you getting this. He called Kamal Harris a Marxist in the debate because she supported more social programs.
I don't care where you live or were born, you are a disgrace to the founding fathers and most certainly not an American.
 
We could also do that by just raising taxes. I actually support raising taxes but no one here fucking does.

Also Trump has never claimed to be for social programs where the fuck are you getting this. He called Kamal Harris a Marxist in the debate because she supported more social programs.
Tell me why raising tariffs is passed onto the consumer but raising taxes isn't.
 
I don't care where you live or were born, you are a disgrace to the founding fathers and most certainly not an American.
How and Why ? I am a free White person of good moral character I am qualified to be an American in their eyes. Ok Jokes aside you know tarrifs are taxes so is Trump not also a disgrace to the founding fathers for raising tarrifs ?

This also ties back into the cope of the American revolution being about taxes and nothing else which is debunked in high school history.

We have already went back on so much of the founding vision why is more central planning the big issue ? The founders once again only thought citizenship should be for Free White people of good moral character we went back on that.
 
Or, ya know, people don't want to pay 35% more for groceries because the obese, elderly, senile conman who you want to have sex with because Fox News and Russian botfarm slop on social media told you ORANGE MAN GUD and you mindlessly believed it has no idea how tariffs work.
Why would groceries (I assume foodstuffs) go up 35% because of tariffs? The US is a net exporter of agricultural goods, the largest by far in the world, and retaliatory tariffs would cause a local oversupply. For all the economic effects of tariffs, short and long term, food is the least of it.
 
That is the sort of "grounds for having your dick and balls chopped off to prevent you from spreading your retardation down in the gene pool" retardation thinking that you be spewing assumes your family aren't pieces of shit that need to euthanized via murder due to them being evil shits or worthless good for nothing parasitic filth.

The fact that you honestly believe this is proof you need to be castrated and forced to wear a dress because if you believe that shit, you probably think cutting off your dick and balls automatically makes you a woman too.
Go on. Tell me how shitty your family was. I'm sure it'll change my mind.
 
Tell me why raising tariffs is passed onto the consumer but raising taxes isn't.
I don't deny they can but not to the same degree and the effects can be better controlled.

Everyone hates income tax but from a cold hard economic standpoint income tax is one of the best tools the government has to raise revenue without hurting market as much.

People aren't going to stop working at a 1% income tax increase but even a small income tax increase from the hundreds of millions of Americans would increase revenue so much.
 
I don't deny they can but not to the same degree and the effects can be better controlled.

Everyone hates income tax but from a cold hard economic standpoint income tax is one of the best tools the government has to raise revenue without hurting market as much.

People aren't going to stop working at a 1% income tax increase but even a small income tax increase from the hundreds of millions of Americans would increase revenue so much.
This is just flat out untrue, throughout the entire history of the U.S whenever taxes were raised.
1: Salaries did not increase by much if at all
2: The cost of goods rose
Combine the two and you have a scenario where people aren't getting paid more but the stuff they can buy is getting more expensive.
 
Can anyone tell me why the tarrifs are good ? The only defense I have seen of them is that they punish people you don't like. Which isn't even true. Tarrifs overwhelmingly hurt the working class and indirectly benefit the rich. I saw someone complain about overpaid desk worker. You think an overpaid desk worker is going to notice a 300 dollar increase on a gpu ? No but a working man trying to buy it for his son will.
You're at least pretending to be a disingenuous retard who posts the same shit over and over even when answered directly word for word in order to waste people's time after more than likely tittering in a DM with the other 3-4 retards so you get a recycled post to match your energy and efforts.

Tariff Tawk Tuah

TL;DR since it takes me like 5 minutes and a coffee break becasue I wrote the blather.

We've been getting dogshit deals and we're too attached at the hip for system critical things to what amount to hostile foreign nationals on a average day, and the stagnation that's come from it has been made apparent for the past two decades.

It's a half measure that becomes a full measure since we have all the leverage at the end of the day. Since we already have precedent after precedent that everyone else folds faster than superman on laundry day because no matter how much you hate us, you need us. Because every other country bought into globohomo even harder. Even the CIA leak files show that the tariffs of the time dinged the shit out of everyone who thought they could out dollar the US.

The USA is objectively the trading hub and center for the entire world. And if you even doubt that for a second, remember that the super majority of all the under sea fiber optics are so dumb fuck trade bots can operate just a few milliseconds faster, any incidental infrastructure boon is purely a side effect to algorithm trade go faster.

It's the petrodollar and not the petro-euro for a reason.
 
Don't bother with him. He's just mad his retirement 401k is paying out a hundred dollars less this month and he won't be able to get as much out of his reverse mortgage if the trend continues.
I don't know what your people's problem is with the Hulkster. Just because he has retarded opinions you don't agree with doesn't mean there isn't any merit to what he's saying. He was very clear to me earlier, he sold off a bunch of his stock in anticipation of a crash like this from tariffs and protected himself. Now he's getting ready to buy back with a bunch of new options. That is what everyone should be doing right now. Everyone should be getting ready to buy into American companies with prospective growth. (Obligatory IANAA, cannot give financial advice) Now take what he claims to have done, and scale that up to a macro level because that's what everyone who paid attention is doing. You have multimillion dollar investment firms who were using prediction models to anticipate this ever since Trump won the Presidency and started talking about reciprocal tariffs. The big crash you saw today was the fallout from those models and the shorts and pulling out of funds. Except, like with Hulkster, all that money isn't staying out of the market. It's going to be spent in anticipation of the market returning on American based companies who aren't subject to these tariffs and on discounted stocks previously inaccessible.
 
How and Why ? I am a free White person of good moral character I am qualified to be an American in their eyes. Ok Jokes aside you know tarrifs are taxes so is Trump not also a disgrace to the founding fathers for raising tarrifs ?

This also ties back into the cope of the American revolution being about taxes and nothing else which is debunked in high school history.

We have already went back on so much of the founding vision why is more central planning the big issue ? The founders once again only thought citizenship should be for Free White people of good moral character we went back on that.
I don't give a shit about your "Free White people of good moral character" disingenuous talking point bullshit. You're poisoning the well so none of your arguments are worth considering.
 
I don't know what your people's problem is with the Hulkster. Just because he has retarded opinions you don't agree with doesn't mean there isn't any merit to what he's saying. He was very clear to me earlier, he sold off a bunch of his stock in anticipation of a crash like this from tariffs and protected himself. Now he's getting ready to buy back with a bunch of new options. That is what everyone should be doing right now. Everyone should be getting ready to buy into American companies with prospective growth. (Obligatory IANAA, cannot give financial advice) Now take what he claims to have done, and scale that up to a macro level because that's what everyone who paid attention is doing. You have multimillion dollar investment firms who were using prediction models to anticipate this ever since Trump won the Presidency and started talking about reciprocal tariffs. The big crash you saw today was the fallout from those models and the shorts and pulling out of funds. Except, like with Hulkster, all that money isn't staying out of the market. It's going to be spent in anticipation of the market returning on American based companies who aren't subject to these tariffs and on discounted stocks previously inaccessible.
You can’t time the market. If you try to time the market, you will fail.

People like Warren Buffet and Peter Lynch don’t just look at a chart of macroeconomic conditions, yield curves, and P/E ratios and decide to buy and sell, they actually intensely try to understand what the individual companies are doing and developing a price that they believe the stock should be worth, then using that price to make a decision. They visit offices and factories, they talk to people, they listen to shareholder meetings. They don’t just look at some charts and pull levers. You can’t try to apply that to a broad market index fund for whatever. It’s not going to work. The reason is because there are very few data points to go off of and the world is changing too quickly for past events to serve as a reliable reference. Another factor is that governments are fundamentally dishonest about their financial pictures in comparison to corporations (because accounting transparency is required to gain capital, something a government doesn’t need to care about), and economic models on things like ‘consumer confidence’ are just models, not reality.

The best you can do to get ahead of everyone else is save as much money as you can and put it into a diverse portfolio while reducing as much fees and taxes as possible. Don’t sell. The marker movers will bring the market up for you.
 
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