should women oppose or support the ban of PORN?

[Dawdler]

In that regard computer made porn is better for humanity than regular one, because there's less people harmed.

 

[lurkr]

Should they

Yes, you shouldn't have society that allows or encourages whores. I don't think anyone would want their kids to live in a society where it's a risk for their daughters to end up in that "career" and their sons to "consume" it.

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If you died, would you be "okay" with society/the government to take care of your kids? Porn being legal is enough to say no. It being legal indirectly implies that they would be fine if your kids are "indulging" in it.

Can they

This is the tricky part. Not really. The obvious one is the financial temptation to exploit simps, if anything, OnlyFans and Twitch thots has proven this to be a fact.
Second part is the angle of "digital cucking". Since most guys want virgins (for marriage), porn has normalized it to be okay with "another dude banging girls they like". If you look at data, there are more virgin men than virgin women at any age bracket (meme terminology: incels vs femcels). With porn, most guys are now "fine" with settling down with a woman who has been "more active" than them. If you where to ban porn, a lot more guys would probably do the pass port bro approach or date much younger to find a woman at their own "dating experience" level. Most women would not be okay with this, so the lesser evil would be to just allow porn to be around so their own personal dating pool isn't being reduced.

What do we DO about it? Honestly there isn’t an easy fix. Completely anonymous age verification is possible, but government clearly want to use this to usher in putting ID to all internet use.

The government can, and has always been able to take down servers and jail people for content on the Internet. Just making something illegal will make it so "normal people" will think twice before doing something. If the government can make it illegal to download pirated media or share "hateful comments", they can at the very minimum make it an offense. You don't need the age verification/ID meme to heavily reduce the accessibility of it. I legit think it's just an astroturfed idea from some government organizations using female centered organizations to enforce censorship laws.

It's easy: Prostitution that was taped on video? Jail! No need for Internet ID shit here.

 

[norito]

Left-wing feminists celebrating porn and prostitution as liberating has to be one of the top 10 copes of self hatred. At the end of it you're always simply debasing yourself for mens' fantasies.
Although the worst of all are the pimps/porn producers/production companies, and they should have the heaviest penalties. (As if that'd ever happen.)

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

We should go back to pay per view. Requiring credit cards to watch eliminate 90% of children trying to watch it. I missed when porn were softcore and not some cursed fetish shit I stumble upon in completely innocent places nowadays

Left-wing feminists celebrating porn and prostitution as liberating has to be one of the top 10 copes of self hatred.

You can stopped at just libfem. They hate themselves.
I think both libfem and radfem hate themselves, the vilest, most misogynistic things I have read has come from radfems. Males can type shit about raping and killing women and radfem will type a wall of text of "Yes, women are superior" and then the 10 following paragraph talk about how women has always been killed and raped by men and will always be unless they become political lesbians and join radfem moment.

 

[YautjaWeeb]

We should go back to pay per view. Requiring credit cards to watch eliminate 90% of children trying to watch it. I missed when porn were softcore and not some cursed fetish shit I stumble upon in completely innocent places nowadays

That got destroyed by globohomo and the massive consortium of recognizable institutions behind PornHub. There's no appetite to go after those investors or do anything about the low key wank material on Twitch, Youtube and other social media where women prostitute themselves for attention and likes.

The solution is always target people with an Orwellian invasion of your life like face id or just take people's freedom away. No accountability for the {{{usual}}} groups and money changers.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

That got destroyed by globohomo and the massive consortium of recognizable institutions behind PornHub. There's no appetite to go after those investors or do anything about the low key wank material on Twitch, Youtube and other social media where women prostitute themselves for attention and likes.

The solution is always target people with an Orwellian invasion of your life like face id or just take people's freedom away. No accountability for the {{{usual}}} groups and money changers.

Hitler should've finished the job

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I think it COULD be potentially beneficial, but also would have unintended consequences people (particularly women) don't realize.

-less porn pacification. Like it or not I think men who are wanking 10 times a fucking day basically have their testosterone practically bled out. Its like the whole nofap theory, but if porn was whole sale banned, gaurentee these previously pacified gooners would be very frustrated. And I don't mean this as a "poor them" frustrated, but more that, these men would be POTENTIALLY hazardous. May or may not be less of an issue depending on what alternatives are illegal.
-Relationships, especially marriages WOULD have more sexual expectations. I think a lot of guys more or less function in sexless marriages because porn is use used as a sort of sexual surrogate, which isn't even recognized in the relationship. The couple just stops having sex, keeps going, and I think SOME women are unaware of how much a factor this plays. If a guy couldn't resort to porn, there would be more pressure there, and cause for conflict. May or may not be less of an issues depending what "alternatives" are legal.
-Initial rise in actual sex act degeneracy. Likewise as mentioned with nofap, detoxing, and testosterone fluctuations, theres around a week period where a man can get very temperamental and impulsive. Which is usually JUST a porn relapse, but without porn well..... That first week might have a lot of new registered sex offenders unless rehab was used, or something. This would be worst in the first month, but I suspect would fall off after
-women dressed provocative would become MORE of an issue. Kinda hard to even avoid this, if suddenly men are re-sensitized, and outlet is largely removed, dressing provocative would become more socially frowned upon BECAUSE of this. You see it in stuff like muslim countries, and they ban porn, so I wouldn't be shocked.
-MUCH higher rates of females getting male attention regardless if wanted. Like seriously, if you whine about catcalls now, it would be hell after. The alternative a lot of men silently use now would be forbidden, which means if you didn't peruse that as a man, you wouldn't be getting access to female nudity. So tons of men who would otherwise never speaking to women would now be perusing, to various degrees of success. And I know some might think these men don't exist, believe me, they do, more than you think. they are just so quiet currently because porn pacification
-The rise in use of edge cases. Say you banned just anything worse than T and A, then BIKINI issues of sports illustrated would be THE NEW thing to be everywhere. Its the best porn a guy could access at that point without jail. Although this is assuming TnA is the line, and not just generalized lewdness like islam.
-Women would get possibly convicted for sending pussy pictures and stuff like that, since that would be the production and distribution of porn. I doubt this is an issue for MOST women, but some would get dinged on this via force of habit.

I still think its largely probably a helpful idea IN THE END, but just like any eradication, theres corpses to clean up and possibly rotting, bloated cadavers which makes shit worse before it gets better. And even if a net benefit to women in general, there would be some initial cons regardless.

 

[A Cat in a Minefield]

I just quickly want to make clear that porn pacification doesn't exist. It is the contrary. Being surrounded by pornography keeps your brain from going back to a normal and healthy state. I'd even go so far as to say that masturbation without porn does the same depending on your relationship with it.
The first month you'll be like a rabbid dog but if you manage to go "clean" for that long it get's way easier and you can actually look at women again without constantly getting intrusive thoughts.

In that sense, yes, it's porn pacification, but that like saying it's OK to give junkies heroin, because they'll be better off with it, ignoring the option of fighting through "withdrawls" and being way better off in general.

 

[ThePozzedOutCritic]

I think we should kill people who jack off to anything other than vanilla sex

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I just quickly want to make clear that porn pacification doesn't exist.

Straight up, do you think its within the realm of possibility for a man to exhaust his libido so thoroughly that hes nearly sexually innert for a period of time?

And not just the typical 5-30 minute "recovery" period, but like extended time of 3-10 hours.
I think this DOES exist, and this is what I'm talking about. Its rarer for sure but it definitely exists.

 

[Herr Flick]

I think it COULD be potentially beneficial, but also would have unintended consequences people (particularly women) don't realize.

All of the negatives you have listed here are things which already exist and happen at catastrophically high frequency because of porn.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

All of the negatives you have listed here are things which already exist and happen at catastrophically high frequency because of porn.

True, but they would get worse. Its basically withdrawals, but instead of a handful of men at a time, its millions.
Its like I said, it gets worse before getting better. Still WORTH it in the end, but one needs to be aware of this.

 

[A Cat in a Minefield]

And not just the typical 5-30 minute "recovery" period, but like extended time of 3-10 hours.
I think this DOES exist, and this is what I'm talking about. Its rarer for sure but it definitely exists.

If it's possible, I think it's definitely more probable after sex then watching porn. But unlikely, for sure. Maybe after the second or third round?
Except maybe if you goon? But I have no experience with that. But I imagine if you jack off for 4h your dick hurts to much to anything really.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

If it's possible, I think it's definitely more probable after sex then watching porn. But unlikely, for sure. Maybe after the second or third time?

See thats my point. I WAS NOT exaggerating when I said going 10 times in a row for comical effect to be VERY clear here, there are men who do that, or more, on a daily basis. And yes, sex is more exhausting both due to cardio and other factors, but the difference is I think a guy unable to keep it up for sex COULD probably find the capacity to masturbate, while a man who didn't have the capacity to masturbate is not able to have sex, because sex is inherently harder

Except maybe if you goon? But I have no experience with that. But I imagine if you jack off for 4h your dick hurts to much to anything really.

Exactly. Its not a pretty reality, but thats what I'm talking about, I don't think a man with friction blisters all over his erectile dysfunction penis is the picture of high performance rape exactly, both from physical injuries, and because I'd assume after 4 hours and 12 orgasms, he really wouldn't SEE women that way, at LEAST for a couple hours minimum.

I'm grateful we came to some degree of an understanding here.

 

[A Cat in a Minefield]

Exactly. Its not a pretty reality, but thats what I'm talking about, I don't think a man with friction blisters all over his erectile dysfunction penis is the picture of high performance rape exactly, both from physical injuries, and because I'd assume after 4 hours and 12 orgasms, he really wouldn't SEE women that way, at LEAST for a couple hours minimum.

At least he is docile now. I mean if someone is that far gone he probably should just neck himself. No way he's getting back to normal.

 

[ThePozzedOutCritic]

Reddit essay on why banning porn would turn the world into the lord of the flies
Or it's like mad max but instead of gas they're looking for porn

 

[deermeat]

Sometimes I feel like making an official "porn hate" thread but I guess with this thread existing and the porn addiction thread elsewhere, I don't need to.
I don't think porn should be illegal because that would be infringing on peoples right to creative expression. But I feel like porn is so bad for people that it truly warps a persons mind in a way incomparable to any other addiction. At least with LSD or meth or anything heavy that fucks you up mentally, it physically shows. But the average porn addict is so deranged mentally yet in a way where they can keep it hidden.

It is grotesque, to the point people stop getting off to tangible things. Their sexuality warps into something akin to a schizophrenic's doodles.
I'm not sure how people can look at porn and not be revolted by it. I will never forget the feelings I had when I first found porn as a minor, it changed me. I've been through CSA but was otherwise sheltered from sex and so on in terms of media, you never forget the emotions you've had upon first finding out about porn.. Its not pleasant, and yet your teen hormones get triggered anyways. Its was so disgusting, confusing, stressful, and yet you feel arousal at the same time.
It physically taps into that primal part of your brain in the worst way, especially with how a lot of porn is designed. I know with the art aspect, theres a reason they tend to draw the bodies impossibly shiny.

 

[failed mist]

if suddenly men are re-sensitized, and outlet is largely removed, dressing provocative would become more socially frowned upon BECAUSE of this. You see it in stuff like muslim countries, and they ban porn, so I wouldn't be shocked.

Islam mentioned in vaguely positive way, opinion discarded

If you want to jerk off to Rouge the Bat wider than she is tall with tits to match, you should have to fashion her out of clay with your own hands a la Venus of Willendorf

It was also kinda cool when, if a guy wanted to watch porn, he had to go downtown to a sticky-floored theater and sit next to a bunch of other guys jerking off. I think this kept the gooner humble.

 

[Herr Flick]

True, but they would get worse. Its basically withdrawals, but instead of a handful of men at a time, its millions.
Its like I said, it gets worse before getting better. Still WORTH it in the end, but one needs to be aware of this.

It's crazy that it's just assumed and expected and "understandable" that the mass reaction to having the elite's literal mind control subservience drug removed from the able-bodied young male population will be for that young male population to go insane raping and objectifying women instead of collectively going after the very male porn-mongers who successfully drugged them into wasting their lives and rotting their brains on morally reprehensible abuse entertainment.

 

[ThePozzedOutCritic]

I think if you banned porn people would just get it illegally because no one cares about the government.
It has to be a social change imo, as in society at large needs to see it as harmful. Kind of like cigarettes.
Also by banning porn you aren't getting rid of coomers. That kind of person will always exist in large quantities until society at large decides that they're evil or at least harmful.