Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[itogi]

Open Source Initiative recently had an "election" for positions in the board of directors. One of requirements for getting the position is a mandatory use of proprietary software.

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[jray4559]

Open Source Initiative recently had an "election" for positions in the board of directors.

Completely unrelated to whatever the fuck that is but how does Lunduke constantly do the smuggiest possible face in human history with every single video thumbnail? Not gonna actually click on the videos because fuck watching video drama but still it impresses me that every single video it's like he's trying to seduce me so that I follow into his bedroom and he asks for me to call him "Daddy Dom Lunkins" or something.

 

[HalHalliday]

What is genuinely great about Rust is that if your code compiles that means it's also probably bug-free.

It's because if it compiles it means you've planned your shit out properly, or you've chased down a dozen errors thrown up by the type checker

I'm convinced that Rust only exists so webdevs can role-play as system programmers.
After their JavaScript-soaked skull sponge hit a wall of strongly typed languages in their hormonal rage, they front-hole birthed the abomination that is the Rust compiler - to nag them into a safe-space make-believe land where they can do no wrong and nothing scary happens.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

There have been a few other ARM-based computers over the years, primarily in supercomputing and server spaces. Apple pretending to have invented something, or to have been the first to do something, is a very old story.

You can get Ampere boards or workstations today at pretty reasonable prices with high core counts:

https://www.ipi.wiki/pages/ampere-altra-dev-kit

Why are all UI libs such a shitshow on Linux? Even the Win32 API - hell, even MFC - is better designed.

Honestly, the API of GTK is perfectly reasonable for a GUI toolkit, probability even one of the better ones out there.

I've recently started doing a lot on PyQt5/6. At first I thought it was really good and cozy to work with. Most of the toolkit is not remotely thread safe, even when using their QThreads. It wouldn't be so bad if the community wasn't toxic as fuck. Don't go asking any remotely complex Qt questions on StackOverflow. They'll be closed immediately if you can't have a reproducible example in 10 lines. "Bitch this 100 line fully functional example is the smallest I can get it to reproduce the bug." "You're using threads incorrectly. Closed." I wonder if their employees are told to do that on SO to bump up subscription payments for support. Fuck Qt.

Dell laptops are an excellent value and probably the best if you don't actually need a full on desktop replacement.

fite me

If I were to get something else than a MBP, I'd go for a Framework

Refurbished Dell business-class laptops aren't bad, but I think their consumer laptops are kind of chintzy.

Dell business laptops use to be really good. The XPS is fucking dogshit. I don't know why people keep recommending them. The thermals have always been terrible and they've never made big improvements. The trackpads constantly pop out due to battery swelling.

The current gen business Dells are not that good anymore either. It's kinda sad these things, which use to be tanks, are now kinda just tanking.

I have a Framework 13 and it's fairly nice. The thermals aren't great, but they're far superior to the XPS, plus they're insanely easy to work on. I ordered one without ram, nvme or windows since I could bring all of it from another device.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Dell business laptops use to be really good. The XPS is fucking dogshit. I don't know why people keep recommending them. The thermals have always been terrible and they've never made big improvements. The trackpads constantly pop out due to battery swelling.

The current gen business Dells are not that good anymore either. It's kinda sad these things, which use to be tanks, are now kinda just tanking.

Eh, that might be true. Admittedly I haven't bought a new laptop in quite a few years. Dell may well have gone downhill.

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

Plagued status when?

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

Computers are ultimately for work. They're a tool. If it "feels nice" but breaks when you look at it the wrong way and fights you tooth and nail just to repair it and get back to work, that's not good build quality, that's getting duped and told to hand over more cash for the privilege of it.

You've never owned a MacBook, right?

 

[Drama Fan]

Did you lads pick up anything at the FSF Memorabilia Auction?

https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/fsf40/auction/FSF-live-auction-booklet.pdf

You could have gotten Stallman's Katana

 

[Coolio55]

Did you lads pick up anything at the FSF Memorabilia Auction?

https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/fsf40/auction/FSF-live-auction-booklet.pdf

You could have gotten Stallman's Katana
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The only thing that surprises me is that he didn't buy it himself.
Still, "Katana received due to a joke in XKCD" is practically on another level.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Also just recently reposted this. Why are they all like this?

That person has it's own Kiwi thread for those who want to know.
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Despite being an actual woman, she looks more like a tranny skinwalking as a woman.
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Lolcows, pedophiles and their defenders come in spades. Still wild to see this crossover especially as the guy who wrote both the Aella and Hector threads.

 

[That Johnny Test Whiplash]

I only get about 5 years out of them, either the bearings wear or they just die, but they're still cheap enough. I do miss the Microsoft Trackball though, using one now even though it's worn out after the last M570 died.

That's still maybe 6 bucks a year, which is pretty cheap. Weirdly enough I've found 'gaming' mice tend to last longer, despite the opposite being true for stuff like 'gaming' headphones.

Open Source Initiative recently had an "election" for positions in the board of directors. One of requirements for getting the position is a mandatory use of proprietary software.

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Kiwis is this real? I haven't watched the video yet because I have other things to do, but there's no way this level of faggotry is real.

I'm convinced that Rust only exists so webdevs can role-play as system programmers.
After their JavaScript-soaked skull sponge hit a wall of strongly typed languages in their hormonal rage, they front-hole birthed the abomination that is the Rust compiler - to nag them into a safe-space make-believe land where they can do no wrong and nothing scary happens.

JavaScript and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

The OS' the only thing nice abt Macs.

I agree with a lot of your other points, but the OS is genuinely the worst part about them. It's a toddler OS with a pretty coat of paint. It was Windows 11 before Windows 11. Early MacOS X (Puma) was alright but that was around the time I switched over to Windows so I have no idea when exactly things started to go wrong.

all of you fuckers using a mouse. If you have to take your hands off the keys to control your computer, you are a baby. CLI or die.

Sovl

You've never owned a MacBook, right?

I've been forced to own three over the past fifteen years because of faggy bosses. I'd take one of those cheap shitty plastic Acer's over a current year MBP or MBA.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

Kiwis is this real? I haven't watched the video yet because I have other things to do, but there's no way this level of faggotry is real.

He does an interview with the guy in the next video and there's a lot more to this. The elections aren't binding and have never been, simply because they were done out in the open at a conference. They didn't want some company just filling ever seat.

It seems like the current beef is with the definition of open source AI models. This is something I've been saying since Deepseek came out. It's NOT open source! Open source would mean having all the training material (terabytes of it) so you could train with the same data to get a binary model. Would it be the same model? No. Random variance will mean you'd get a slightly different model, but it would be pretty close. Could you build your own model? Deepseek used 2048 nVidia N100s, which are $8k~$10k each and took 3 days. Could you use a couple of 3080s and it just take a few months? Probably not. We're taking $8mil ~ $10mil worth of hardware (or maybe less for shared hardware rental time). It would take someone with a homelab years, or even a decent university high end lab months.

None of the AI models are "open source," and most of them can't be because they're trained on a corpus of copyrighted works (both literary and images) so the creators literally cannot share the source material unless they want to be hit with massive legal liability (just look at the Meta case where the stand accused of torrenting terabytes of commercial material).

 

[That Johnny Test Whiplash]

He does an interview with the guy in the next video and there's a lot more to this. The elections aren't binding and have never been, simply because they were done out in the open at a conference. They didn't want some company just filling ever seat.

It seems like the current beef is with the definition of open source AI models. This is something I've been saying since Deepseek came out. It's NOT open source! Open source would mean having all the training material (terabytes of it) so you could train with the same data to get a binary model. Would it be the same model? No. Random variance will mean you'd get a slightly different model, but it would be pretty close. Could you build your own model? Deepseek used 2048 nVidia N100s, which are $8k~$10k each and took 3 days. Could you use a couple of 3080s and it just take a few months? Probably not. We're taking $8mil ~ $10mil worth of hardware (or maybe less for shared hardware rental time). It would take someone with a homelab years, or even a decent university high end lab months.

None of the AI models are "open source," and most of them can't be because they're trained on a corpus of copyrighted works (both literary and images) so the creators literally cannot share the source material unless they want to be hit with massive legal liability (just look at the Meta case where the stand accused of torrenting terabytes of commercial material).

I agree that it's not "Open Source" as approved by the OSI or by the almighty Stallman himself (a better definition would probably be "Open Weights"), but considering the nature of the beast it doesn't really matter. There's only one internet. Inevitably they converge to the same point. The real secret sauce is the mixing portions (20% code, 40% books, etc, etc,) which Meta and I think Qwen publishes, and the post-training.

Hardware and cost are also pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things too. The cost to train GPT-2 went from upwards of 10 grand and a couple of weeks to less than a $100 bucks and maybe a few hours in about 5 years. In another 5 hobbyists will be training models that make OG GPT-4 look like a toy as a weekend project.

 

[Rust Troony]

All this fucking talk about input devices clearly missing the obvious winner, Gyro. What, can't lift your laptop and move it around all day. Sounds like bitch talk to me...

Lolcows, pedophiles and their defenders come in spades. Still wild to see this crossover especially as the guy who wrote both the Aella and Hector threads.

I wish I didn't need to do background searches on developers of the programs i use but more and more it seems i have to. I do need more lolcows to laugh at though after the crashout of Drew and possibly Hector...

 

[Cedric_Eff]

First Arm computer was probably the Acorn RISC PC 600. There have been a few other ARM-based computers over the years, primarily in supercomputing and server spaces. Apple pretending to have invented something, or to have been the first to do something, is a very old story.

If you want to get really autistic about it, the first Arm computer is the BBC Acorn Micro with the ARM1 co-processor.

Acorn’s Archimedes line was absolutely an early ARM computer. You’d be surprised that RISC based machines became very popular in the late 80’s, going into the 1990’s.

 

[Dr. Sexbot]

ARM fucking originally stood for "Acorn RISC Machine" ffs children. There is no autism or debate about it.

 

[Lady Ivlia de Nîmes]

I've recently started doing a lot on PyQt5/6. At first I thought it was really good and cozy to work with. Most of the toolkit is not remotely thread safe, even when using their QThreads.

I've heard about multi-threading being very painful with PyQT, as it won't let you interact with the event loop. Unsure if this is just a PyQT issue or if this extends to QT aswell.
In general however the API of Qt (and most other OOP based toolkits) is still rather sane (while they all have some wierd parts, which parts those are probably just depends on which toolkits you mainly use; and when changing toolkits, you'd get used to them after a while). I mainly have an issue with those newish toolkits originating from 'Muh OOP bad!', even tho GUI toolkit widgetry is probably one of the best usecases for inheritance and polymorphism. HTML has truly mindbroken a generation.

 

[Slav Power]

>thread is up to "Diseased" now
soz

 

[Coolio55]

Been playing about with gimp 3 and I notice that they've added a dropdown menu in the middle of the select -> float -> move routine.

 

[seri0us]

It appears GPU PhysX (including Flow) has been fully open sourced (BSD-3) last week.

why they need fix PhysX in new GPUs when you can give everything to modders and they will do it all for you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)