Tiffany Skylar Johnston / Zoey Willow / aumiist / emoboyfucker69 / mitsuwah / dollienarc / mitsufan / Splatinist / xKiwifarmjoshx (and many more) - "3rd generation Florida man", Delusional Mitsuba Sousuke spammer, 2edgy4u emo fujoshi, Oversharing autist, Sockpuppet hydra, Grimy worm-infested zoo animal, Crackpot schizo, Genuine Cautionary Tale About Childhood Internet Usage, Objectfucker

[Toji Suzuhara]

Enough seriousposting, back to Cookie Run gaming

 

[Hoi Polloi]

Normally these types end up just lying to therapists so much that they don't get the full story and can't help them. At best it becomes another way for them to get validation through their one-sided accounts of events. "My therapist said you're abusive!" is a normal BPD thing to say, for example.

Part of her problem manifests in her penchant for slap fighting and tardraging online, which the therapist isn't going to know about - and I doubt she's going to explain to a therapist that she's arguing on a Sao Tome citrus farming forum about her kidnapped fictional animeson.

All a bit moot anyway since she was attending group therapy where I doubt there's the opportunity for in depth one-to-one dialogue, she's just been learning coping mechanisms.

We won't know how well that has worked since her semi-frequent spergouts here are more than likely performative to a degree.

 

[clara red bottoms]

Bpd isn't curable. Therapy and medication really just assist with managing symptoms and hopefully helping them develop coping skills. There's no admission, drug cocktail, emotional breakthrough, or fourth thing that therapy could do to crank out a normal 20 year old. It's primarily for managing symptoms.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

I wouldn't be surprised if she was lying, but I have a small hope inside of me that this crazy bitch can do one thing right. I can't comprehend telling Kiwi Farms your entire life story when asked once, but not actually telling your therapist what's going on in your life. I can't imagine my non-bpd brain can't imagine doing some shit like that, but knowing Tiffany. Yeah probably lmao, especially when she was off her meds.

These types always overshare, but to the wrong people. It's like a curse for cluster B's.

 

[Hoi Polloi]

Bpd isn't curable. Therapy and medication really just assist with managing symptoms and hopefully helping them develop coping skills. There's no admission, drug cocktail, emotional breakthrough, or fourth thing that therapy could do to crank out a normal 20 year old. It's primarily for managing symptoms.

Zoobles doesn't need curing. She just needs season 3 of Toilet-bound Hanako-kun and unlimited cookie run currency.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Zoobles doesn't need curing. She just needs season 3 of Toilet-bound Hanako-kun and unlimited cookie run currency.

And a Taco Bell gift card with endless funds, don't forget about that

 

[Hoi Polloi]

And a Taco Bell gift card with endless funds, don't forget about that

Yeah, I forgot to consult the chart.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

Yeah, I forgot to consult the chart.

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Schizo's hierarchy of needs.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Mystery of the 'asked politely but firmly to move out' solved.

 

[DickMain]

There's no admission, drug cocktail, emotional breakthrough, or fourth thing that therapy could do to crank out a normal 20 year old. It's primarily for managing symptoms.

Things get a lot better when you learn there's not some silver bullet solution that just makes it go away, when you understand that it's just about coping with things rather than thinking you can stop them from happening.

 

[Bothriolepis]

Bpd isn't curable. Therapy and medication really just assist with managing symptoms and hopefully helping them develop coping skills. There's no admission, drug cocktail, emotional breakthrough, or fourth thing that therapy could do to crank out a normal 20 year old. It's primarily for managing symptoms.

Pretty much. You can reach a point where you no longer show enough external symptoms to fit the diagnostic criteria, but you don't become (or feel like) a different person, and it's a lifelong struggle not to fall back into old habits. One that you'll almost certainly lose at times, although presumably it gets easier as time goes on and it starts feeling more natural to use healthy coping mechanisms.

 

[Rache Bartmoss]

Side effect of her meds, perhaps?

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[Toji Suzuhara]

Side effect of her meds, perhaps?
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Yeah, both Strattera and Abilify can cause mood swings

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

Things get a lot better when you learn there's not some silver bullet solution that just makes it go away, when you understand that it's just about coping with things rather than thinking you can stop them from happening.

And results like this only happen to the mature, self aware BPD's who accept and go through years of treatment. Which are few and far between and always older than early 20's.

 

[DickMain]

And results like this only happen to the mature, self aware BPD's who accept and go through years of treatment. Which are few and far between and always older than early 20's.

You don't start off self-aware and mature, you get your ass humbled wasting most of your twenties being a loon before getting a wake-up call.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

You don't start off self-aware and mature, you get your ass humbled wasting most of your twenties being a loon before getting a wake-up call.

And that wakeup call only works for some of them. The ones that don't heed it are exponentially more likely to have a thread here.

 

[DickMain]

And that wakeup call only works for some of them. The ones that don't heed it are exponentially more likely to have a thread here.

It worked for her, or she wouldn't have bothered to explore therapy period. I didn't until my late twenties. You have to want to be helped, not dragged into it, and I've been a gay cheerleader in the thread long enough to say this time around is going fine (relatively speaking). You're not going to get it right and figure everything out in one shot or a few sessions.

The meltdowns lately are nothing compared to a year ago, or those of Talbott and Alex's.

 

[Bothriolepis]

And results like this only happen to the mature, self aware BPD's who accept and go through years of treatment. Which are few and far between and always older than early 20's.

Pretty much. Self-awareness is something that you have to build, to a certain degree, but you have to already be at a level where you recognize that there's a problem and are willing to (however begrudgingly) listen to what the professionals you seek treatment from have to say about your behavior. That's incredibly painful, and accepting it is almost like the stages of the grieving process.

I hate to say it, but I have my doubts that Zoey is mature or mentally developed enough to voluntarily go through that, and it does have to be voluntary. Nobody can force you.

 

[DickMain]

Pretty much. Self-awareness is something that you have to build, to a certain degree, but you have to already be at a level where you recognize that there's a problem and are willing to (however begrudgingly) listen to what the professionals you seek treatment from have to say about your behavior. That's incredibly painful, and accepting it is almost like the stages of the grieving process.

I hate to say it, but I have my doubts that Zoey is mature or mentally developed enough to voluntarily go through that, and it does have to be voluntary. Nobody can force you.

Personally I think this is where things are at currently. She recognizes there are issues, and is at least exploring the help. And it is a lot like going through that process; it's a shitty mess of unlearning a lot of bad habits and unhelpful rationalizations, and you will fuck up a lot at first trying to develop new ones. I think the way she carries herself in general lately is a lot easier to interact with, to the point she's messing with us with bathtub shrimp (revealed to be air fried (called it by the way)). She spergs out and argues with people here but more of in sort of a play fighting kind of way. At least that's how I see things after the time I've hung out here.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

I hate to say it, but I have my doubts that Zoey is mature or mentally developed enough to voluntarily go through that, and it does have to be voluntary. Nobody can force you.

She's not. Her prefrontal cortex has a good 6 years before it develops. It's gonna be a long, bumpy road until then.