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[LaxerBRO]

Trump and Musk have completely broken this man:

Regarding the guns and revolution comment.

Declaration of Independence:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

Basically, don't revolt over stupid stuff.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Sometimes I wonder if Redditors truly understand quality of life. On one hand the seethe they have over yards, cars, and walls that aren't shared with strangers is jealousy over something they'll (probably) never have, on the other hand they act like a noisy shoebox is something that all people should aspire to, and ignoring the usual cost of life mechanisms that the normies think of (low crime, cost of living, employment, etc.). Across party lines, the methods of achieving these differ dramatically and the finer points are often different but there seems to be a general consensus of what people want.

Meanwhile, in almost all these Reddit circles you get stuff like...
- Things like reducing pollution and climate change are discussed, but used as means to an end rather than a feature (especially if they're shilling for China, then pollution might as well not exist).
- They'll point out how normies want bike lanes, but fail to realize that they want bike lanes in new construction and parks, not at the expense of car lanes/parking. We've seen that this sort of thing is almost universally hated even in the safe blue areas.
- Obsessing over things like "too many parking lots" (which only they do)
- Completely ignoring crime. Blue cities are aware of crime but have incredibly bad ideas how to handle it ("community ambassadors", e.g.). With urbanists, ignoring the sociopathic "right to vandalize" bullshit, they'll either tow the line of "no reports=no crime", anecdotal bullshit ("well, I didn't see anyone get murdered today, herp derp!"), outright contradictions ("of course there's no crime, apart from me getting my bike stolen 2-3 times"), or won't even use terms because they're too afraid of seeming racist ("societal issues").
- Ignoring the fact that people overwhelmingly want single-family homes. They honestly think that the demand for single-family homes are some sort of oil industry creation when in reality it's what the normies want. Non-whites like Indians, Asians, and blacks want them, and a large part of the reason why the economy collapsed is that the government forced banks to extend loans to people who couldn't actually afford a house. (If there weren't that many people that wanted houses, the banks wouldn't have nearly an issue).

Jason clearly never got the prettiest girl in town

Great song by the way.

I'm sure that they've mocked the idea that "a truck can you get a woman" (I know I've seen it somewhere) but it's more of a prerequisite. You shouldn't expect to get a girlfriend by having good hygiene, but they'll notice when you don't.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Alright, I gotta share this

Spoiler: Context

Translating from /r/de, the biggest German-speaking subreddit
As expected, it is also ridiculously left-wing authoritarian communist
Not even exaggerated
Sometimes, and these tend to be entertaining, people post very amusing rants in which they go really hard on some issue that's banal
Today I'm seeing this post that would fit right into /r/fuckcars, and it is so unhinged that I'm sharing it with you, translated by yours truly
Not because I agree with it, but to mock it, to tell the rest of the class why I'm laughing at someone's retardation

Since I despise it when people use English words when speaking German, I'll demarcate every word that's untranslated in italics
Would be hella seltsam if I were to do this, but ze Germans are nicht in der Lage to speak proper German

What the hell is actually happening on our streets?! Or am I the last one in traffic with a bit of brain?​

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Okay, guys. I just have to divulge what has been on my chest for eternities. I've been driving by car AND bike for almost 15 years - so yes, I'm an old fart and probably older than the average r/de from edgeville poster, but somebody needs to say it:​

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Am I the problem? Or did really EVERYBODY else get completely mentally lose it?!​

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What the hell is going on out there? I've got the feeling that, in the past few years, the collective driving skills have gone out the window with a triple backflip. Without indicating the lane change.​

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Just this one week. One week. And I have witnessed more brainless scenes than at a "RTL2 [trash tv] Driving Education Special Program".​

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There was this one passenger car that, when leaving a parking area (with ENTRY AND EXIT LANE, yes, those still exist) simply thought: "Oh, why not add 30 cm [one arm length] of life-threatening behavior", cuts across both lanes and almost decimated the hip bone of an e-scooter driver.​

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Then this dude in his [Volkwagen SUV] Touran who thought it's completely okay to use a designated bicycle and pedestrian road (!) with his passenger car - "Yeah sorry, it was the satnav." BRO, YOUR SATNAV DOESN'T TELL YOU TO CRASH INTO THE SUPERMARKET AT 180 [110 mph] EITHER?!​

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And as the cherry on top: Cyclist. But not some random one. No, the Terminator on two wheels. Shoots into every junction through red traffic lights at the speed of sound, as if there were a bonus point for nearly massacring pedestrians. He almost reduced the burden on our pension system with an old lady who exited the pharmacy.​

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What did go wrong? Too many people, too little road? Do we in 2025 still have the infrastructure from 1960 and are surprised that there's a clash?​

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Or is that TikTok? Is the attention span now officially below that of toasted bread? Are people really only able to drive now while some influencer yells into their ear what top 10 perfumes a man needs in 2025?​

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I'm also honestly wondering if I am simply too spoiled by COVID. Back then, everything was calm, peaceful. You could even leave a window open on the street without someone grilling you the ear drum with dubstep bass and 600 hp. Today? You get flashbacks as soon as you turn on the indicator.​

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And this aggressiveness... GOOD HEAVENS.​

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Everybody drives as if they were Rambo - on steroids. No matter how dangerous, you must overtake. [Volkswagen] Golf with 160 hp? Sorry! The guy in the Cupra behind got 300 hp - and his ego needs space. But wait, behind the Cupra there lurks John in the Porsche with 631 hp, he needs to go further. And all three of them go ahead like in "Need for Speed - country road mass collision".​

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And I, on my way to work with the bicycle, am looking at the spectacle from above. Because fortunately I've got a little parallel cyclists' road that is roughly 100m [yards] away from the main road. One can see everything. One does not WANT TO see it. But one sees it.​

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And then comes Musti [short form of Mustafa I guess?] in his Golf with 22 inch rims and decides today to simply use the bicycle lane as a personal overtaking lane. Of course "by accident". Sure. And it is only by accident that my foot went against your mirr...​

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And then there's the e-scooter apostles - on the move like lemmings on meth, without a helmet, without a plan, but headfirst across a junction through a red traffic light at 30 [20 mph] as if there were free beer on the other side. I swear, they have no will to live​

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People, how did we get here? How did we get from "I'm dutifully waiting at the traffic light" to "I'll run you over because I got a banger 300€ leasing for the Hyundai N30"?​

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I simply want to go back to a traffic in which you don't need to be afraid every day that some Joe Schmoe thinks he's on the Nürburgring. Commuting used to be challenging once - now it's nothing but a daily test of your own will to survive.​

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A normal flow of traffic? FORGET IT!​

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It no longer exists. It's dead. Buried. Flow of traffic is a has-been, now it's a standing party on tarmac. These fucking cars are standing EVERYWHERE. Every damn street is parked to the point of nausea. Even in side roads where grandmas with walking aids had space - today you you squeeze in with your bicycle between delivery vans, SUV, and Kevin's "project car" with an open hood and JBL box in the trunk, while some mom with the SUV is oncoming because she "just wants to quickly go to the child daycare".​

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YOU SIMPLY CAN'T GET THROUGH ANYMORE. NOT IN THE CAR. NOT WITH THE TRAIN. NOT EVEN WITH MY FUCKING BICYCLE. And when I hear one more time: "Why don't you take the bicycle, it's better for the environment" - yeah, bro, I would love to, IF IT WEREN'T FOR EVERY MORON TO PARK ON THE BICYCLE LANE!! By now I'm riding on the pedestrian lane more often than a three-year old with training wheels. Not because I want to - but because there simply is no other option left! And every time I take a detour on the pedestrian lane, I feel like a complete menace, but what am I supposed to do?! The alternatives are: A) Turn back, B) Slalom between cars or C) get the airbag tested.​

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Welcome to the German traffic hell, have fun with your daily level of "Tetris with sheet metal boxes". And no, Kevin, I don't just drive a bicycle and hate everyone with a car because you have made that your life's mission for three years: I am such a car menace myself.​

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Rant over. But don't you dare one of you drives on the bicycle lane tomorrow. I'm starting to put pepper spray in the bottle.​

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But, honestly: Why did it get this way? Or has it never been any different?​

 

[quaawaa]

What did go wrong? Too many people, too little road? Do we in 2025 still have the infrastructure from 1960 and are surprised that there's a clash?

Amazing how he identifies the exact problem, yet instead of discussing solutions, just continues to rant.

From my understanding, in a lot of cities, Germany actually has less infrastructure than they had in 1960 thanks to urbanists deliberately destroying it.

Also, there is a German version of /r/fuckcars: /r/autobloed.

 

[Lovely Kin]

"well, I didn't see anyone get murdered today, herp derp!"

The most frustrating part of dealing with them. I have been told multiple times that smash and grab crimes "aren't actually that bad" or "reparations to the poor" then in the same sentence they whine about food deserts when no store wants to be in those neighborhoods anymore.

 

[LaxerBRO]

They honestly think that the demand for single-family homes are some sort of oil industry creation when in reality it's what the normies want.

Little did you know that Homestead Act was Big Oils first attempt at brainwashing people into liking single family homes.

Never mind that Standard Oil wasn't even founded yet.

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

Well kiwis, I'm in Phoenix this weekend, and I decided instead of renting a car I'd make use of public transport and see how walkable Phoenix is. To a degree I enjoy this decision, as for some of it I was in downtown Phoenix, and driving in downtown Phoenix is like any other city: absolutely fucking bullshit.

I got in Thursday night/Friday morning. I don't know if the SKY TRAIN counts as that primarily serves the airport but I at least want to mention it. It may be me not used to public transit but by God that thing was fast and terrifying, enough to get me to hang on for dear life. Since it was late, it was only half full and no one bothered anyone. The most notable experience was me seeing a literal sheboon, think George Floyd in drag and a long wig and you'll have a close approximation.

From there I took the light rail, which was also sparsely populated and since I got to sit in a decent seat, not as bad on the lurching around.

Friday I walked to the event I was going to, the Game On convention. Only about a half mile, and I even stopped at Fry's to pick up a few things I didn't bring on the plane. It was a rather pleasant walk, helped by the fact that Phoenix is a lot colder than you'd expect in the first week of April, only about mid 50s that day.

Today I took the bus to get to a few places I wanted to visit. A lot of this travelling is made way more convenient with the use of a phone app that acts as route planner and a way to pay the fare in one, so even when I took a stop for breakfast I was able to find the next bus rather easily. I don't know how cheap it is, but $4 was my most expensive ride and that took me over the freeway to uptown Phoenix. The light rail and a second bus to get me where I was going were each $2. The buses themselves were also sparsely populated, but the most uncomfortable ride I've been on, and I was in the priority seats resevered for the disabled. The stops and starts of the buses had me lurching too and from and just not able to sit comfortable at all.

So in conclusion it seems fine for a trip or when you don't have many other options, but demanding we all rely on it is absolutely fuck tarded. I can imagine when it gets crowded, it gets even worse, though I'd say my experience was pretty pleasant overall. I may just bite the bullet and rent a car next time, especially so I can maybe get to a cheaper hotel outside the city center.

 

[quaawaa]

for some of it I was in downtown Phoenix

Downtown Phoenix sucks and is nothing but office towers, government offices, homeless shelters, and arenas. Old Town Scottsdale is the actual nice “downtown” part of the Phoenix metro area, and the light rail does not run to it. It’s worth checking out if you’re still there.

 

[mr. testicular torsion]

What is "erotic ASMR"?

basically whispering for listeners to Nut to
its weird

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

I think this is just the market demand in North America. The consumer buyers just aren't interested in stripped down, new cars as they want features. If they can't afford it new they'll rather buy used. That's why all of the former cheap, bare bones, "starter-class" new car models have disappeared.

I think it might be one of those 'a little of column A, a little of column B' situations. I spent a lot of time searching for my specific truck when I bought it - ZR2 trim but with zero other options (who the fuck wants a sunroof on a truck?). I was willing to shop Tacomas, but none of them within 500 miles were the spec I wanted (TRD Off-Road with the only option being the sway bar disconnect), but all of those locally were optioned to the gills and north of $55K. I don't know if customers wanted all that extra shit on the Toyotas locally, but that's what the dealers ordered, and Toyota doesn't let you special order them.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

and Toyota doesn't let you special order them.

Honestly that's the answer to the whole question: go back to the way they used to do it in the seventies and earlier.

Dealers should have smaller lots with less inventory and when you go to buy a car you fill out a brochure where you check off all the options you want (and none of this gay fraudulent shit where they force you to tie certain options together) and then you wait a few days or weeks to get your car. Or if you want one of the lot you can go that way too. This will never happen obviously but that system used to be in place.

 

[DavidS877]

Honestly that's the answer to the whole question: go back to the way they used to do it in the seventies and earlier.

Dealers should have smaller lots with less inventory and when you go to buy a car you fill out a brochure where you check off all the options you want (and none of this gay fraudulent shit where they force you to tie certain options together) and then you wait a few days or weeks to get your car. Or if you want one of the lot you can go that way too. This will never happen obviously but that system used to be in place.

I ordered one in about 2000. Was the only way to get a manual transmission in the SUV I bought, it took a few months and every time I took it in for service the very same dealer would always say "I didn't know we made these in a manual." . Next one I got what I wanted but the Diesel version really had no trim options. Newest one is an EV and you had one choice, one color. The next model year they started offering options but I had to be an early adopter.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I ordered one in about 2000. Was the only way to get a manual transmission in the SUV I bought, it took a few months and every time I took it in for service the very same dealer would always say "I didn't know we made these in a manual." . Next one I got what I wanted but the Diesel version really had no trim options. Newest one is an EV and you had one choice, one color. The next model year they started offering options but I had to be an early adopter.

The one time I ever bought a new car I told them that I wanted the sedan, not the hatch, and I wanted the stick, not the auto. They found literally one and it was about 200 miles from where I lived so they cannonballed it up to me. After that I realized how gay buying new cars was and I went back to buying used garbage. But that little Ford was a pretty great car for what it was.

 

[quaawaa]

After that I realized how gay buying new cars was and I went back to buying used garbage.

There's nothing wrong with buying new cars if you plan on keeping them for a while. Yes, it's a little more expensive than buying a lightly used car, but you get exactly what you want and you know the exact history of your car. A lot of "unreliable" cars are only unreliable because they're typically owned by people who never do maintenance or abuse the car.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

There's nothing wrong with buying new cars if you plan on keeping them for a while. Yes, it's a little more expensive than buying a lightly used car, but you get exactly what you want and you know the exact history of your car. A lot of "unreliable" cars are only unreliable because they're typically owned by people who never do maintenance or abuse the car.

True on all counts but I hate making a monthly payment on something I don't own but am still responsible for every aspect of.

 

[DavidS877]

There's nothing wrong with buying new cars if you plan on keeping them for a while. Yes, it's a little more expensive than buying a lightly used car, but you get exactly what you want and you know the exact history of your car. A lot of "unreliable" cars are only unreliable because they're typically owned by people who never do maintenance or abuse the car.

I've bought one used car since I needed a beater commuter. The other 5 have been new.
The one from 2000ish I finally replaced in 2015. I get loans but pay them off quickly, in 2015 when I replaced it the bank asked me "So, we see you've never had a car loan before." well, no, I've had several but they don't show up since I preferred to not have a payment for most of the last 15 years. The 2015 car was paid off in 3 years and used until last year when the EV replaced it.

 

[quaawaa]

How dare you tell people not to wear all black at night:

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[Kiska]

Dealers should have smaller lots with less inventory and when you go to buy a car you fill out a brochure where you check off all the options you want (and none of this gay fraudulent shit where they force you to tie certain options together) and then you wait a few days or weeks to get your car. Or if you want one of the lot you can go that way too. This will never happen obviously but that system used to be in place.

I'm against car dealerships in general - they do not make much logistical sense in the modern world and add an unnecessary middleman expense instead of letting people buy and customize vehicles directly from the manufacturer. Sadly, Tesla (in the west) is the only company that really does this. In fact, dealerships even exist because many states forbid their consumers from buying vehicles in a direct to consumer model that most industries flourish from.

 

[DavidS877]

How dare you tell people not to wear all black at night:
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It's not even night or rain. Here in my part of the world we have these things called "trees" they are large light-blocking devices which often line the edges of roads. It can be the middle of the fucking day and the middle of the road is bright as hell and someone biking or walking in dark clothes along the edge of the road can be nearly invisible.
I biked to work for years, I was always wearing something bright and usually had my lights on(not flashing, flashing bike lights are for faggots) even in daytime.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I'm against car dealerships in general - they do not make much logistical sense in the modern world and add an unnecessary middleman expense instead of letting people buy and customize vehicles directly from the manufacturer. Sadly, Tesla (in the west) is the only company that really does this. In fact, dealerships even exist because many states forbid their consumers from buying vehicles in a direct to consumer model that most industries flourish from.

The vehicle manufacturers themselves also profit massively off of the dealership structure, which is a big part of the reason why that structure is so fucked. The manufacturers build a certain number of vehicles per quarter and then push them onto the dealers whether the dealers want them or not as part of their contract. The dealers are forced to buy these cars and whether they sell or not doesn't start to effect the manufacturer for quite some time.