The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

[Male Idiot]

I know the EPA has issues, but good environmental protection is something I want to see. In the uk we have this insane situation where the water companies are just pumping raw sewage into waterways and beaches that were previously clean enough to swim in, and it’s hideous.
The EPA and bodies like it need reform, so they have the teeth to stop and prosecute people destroying places, while the really fucking stupid stuff like cow farts can be ignored

You are right, in an ideal world, that would be the way to go. But he needs those factories set up in 4 years. The hard limit timer is ticking.

Were Trump a 45 year old king for life, I would say he could do this slow and properly. But he is a geriatric that has to crash start factories, so elegant solutions maybe aren't on his table.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Don’t really have anything to sell. Just have a mortgage coming up for renegotiation and wondered if it’s better to try to do it sooner rather than later. Would a stock market crash send rates up or down?

Interest rates are predicted to fall at the moment. A stock market crash shouldn't prompt an increase in rates. A crash is typically mildly deflationary; it destroys value, so the monetary supply appears to shrink. Raising rates at that point would be economic retardation (so you know Reeves and Starmer are itching to give it a go). The usual response to a stock market crash is to cut rates in order to avoid recession.

I've got my mortgage renewal coming up shortly as well in a few months. My broker has already fixed the rate for the renewal (same bank, as everyone else wanted a big up-front fee for the privilege of moving to them), but he say he's watching for a cut. I think, on balance, you'll be in a pretty good position if you're renewing in the next few months.

 

[Gerelatha]

A stock market crash shouldn't prompt an increase in rates. A crash is typically mildly deflationary; it destroys value, so the monetary supply appears to shrink.

the problem is tariffs are inherently inflationary, which will offset that

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

I would argue the USA starting with tariffs is well thought out.

The Power of American Education??

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

You are right, in an ideal world, that would be the way to go. But he needs those factories set up in 4 years. The hard limit timer is ticking.

Were Trump a 45 year old king for life, I would say he could do this slow and properly. But he is a geriatric that has to crash start factories, so elegant solutions maybe aren't on his table.

How does one "crash start factories"?
I understand you are likely retarded and think it is like in a video game where you beep boop some shit other, and it works, but as someone who has taken part in factory upstarts almost from the ground up. Do tell me how that will work.

 

[Male Idiot]

How does one "crash start factories"?
I understand you are likely retarded and think it is like in a video game where you beep boop some shit other, and it works, but as someone who has taken part in factory upstarts almost from the ground up. Do tell me how that will work.

It won't, you nigger, and I am all for it. China/Russia number One! So did you manage 4 pablos taking siestas?

Orbán did it with a tank factory and it took like 4 years with a population willing to sweatshop.

It won't work with entitled fat sheboons, but cutting all regulations usually speeds it up. It just ends with a few factory fires and 3 eyed fish. This would work in theory, but not with lazy, over entitled voters who don't want to work 12 hour jobs for 1000 dollars a month.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

It won't, you nigger, and I am all for it. China/Russia number One! So did you manage 4 pablos taking siestas?

Orbán did it with a tank factory and it took like 4 years with a population willing to sweatshop.

It won't work with entitled fat sheboons, but cutting all regulations usually speeds it up. It just ends with a few factory fires and 3 eyed fish. This would work in theory, but not with lazy, over entitled voters who don't want to work 12 hour jobs for 1000 dollars a month.

So, you want sweatshop work for Americans? You want to destroy the environment so rich people can get richer.
I mean, I don't mind; I am one of the cunts automating jobs, so there are only the shit jobs left that are paid a pittance, but still, if that is the future, you want. Then cool.

 

[Male Idiot]

So, you want sweatshop work for Americans? You want to destroy the environment so rich people can get richer.
I mean, I don't mind; I am one of the cunts automating jobs, so there are only the shit jobs left that are paid a pittance, but still, if that is the future, you want. Then cool.

I definately want sweatshop work for them, especially the niggers. Dem farm equipment have been on gibsmuh since Martin Looter Kang, time for them to earn their oxygen and waddymelon again.

But no, what I want is China/Russia/Iran to win. Trump doing a Yuge Depression 2.0 : Make Tariffs Bigly Again is just a happy coincidence.

 

[Meat Target]

So, you want sweatshop work for Americans? You want to destroy the environment so rich people can get richer.
I mean, I don't mind; I am one of the cunts automating jobs, so there are only the shit jobs left that are paid a pittance, but still, if that is the future, you want. Then cool.

I lost like 25 lbs in a month loading trailers at UPS. Fat Americunts could use some sweating.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Jokes on you. Only 30% of Americans have 401k's. Which means 70% of Americans either don't give a shit or are enjoying watching you suffer.

Hey that's me lol. Today has been fun lmao. So much panic and chaos. Meanwhile I have a bucket of popcorn since I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's hilarious how many people have banked their lives on a fake ass line controlled by computers and spreadsheets.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

I lost like 25 lbs in a month loading trailers at UPS. Fat Americunts could use some sweating.

That was probably a reduction in grazing when bored more than exercise, and water weight. Still impressive.

 

[Meat Target]

Hey that's me lol. Today has been fun lmao. So much panic and chaos. Meanwhile I have a bucket of popcorn since I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's hilarious how many people have banked their lives on a fake ass line controlled by computers and spreadsheets.

My parents, aunts, and uncles are the only boomers I care about.

 

[WelperHelper99]

My parents, aunts, and uncles are the only boomers I care about.

Same here. At this point I want to see the system torched and born anew. Pure kinotherapy is what we need.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

So, you want sweatshop work for Americans? You want to destroy the environment so rich people can get richer.
I mean, I don't mind; I am one of the cunts automating jobs, so there are only the shit jobs left that are paid a pittance, but still, if that is the future, you want. Then cool.

we have a lot of retarded able bodied people who're only able to function in a sweatshop environment. those people are out there right now doing fuck all but crime.

 

[MG-34]

we have a lot of retarded able bodied people who're only able to function in a sweatshop environment. those people are out there right now doing fuck all but crime.

They're not going to usher themselves into a factory for one thousand dollars a month. Those niggers are going to keep doing crime and drugs and won't be enticed at making nikes for 12 hours a day. Before you mention it, no the Trump administration isn't going to force them into those hypothetical labor camps at gunpoint.

Morons praising this are the same ones that can't understand Null when he tries to explain why Abortion is a dumb hill to die on for the political right.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Before you mention it, no the Trump administration isn't going to force them into those hypothetical labor camps at gunpoint.

Apparently the plan is to massively expand domestic heavy industry within five years by sacrificing consumption for investment and the extensive use of prisoners from corrective labor camps.

That sounds familiar for some reason.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

They're not going to usher themselves into a factory for one thousand dollars a month. Those niggers are going to keep doing crime and drugs and won't be enticed at making nikes for 12 hours a day. Before you mention it, no the Trump administration isn't going to force them into those hypothetical labor camps at gunpoint.

Morons praising this are the same ones that can't understand Null when he tries to explain why Abortion is a dumb hill to die on for the political right.

Prison labor is legal in most states and comissary is an easy carrot to give prisoners. and who doesn't want criminals to live in a black dolphin environment?


i dont think Manufacturing or the dream of 1950s returning is realistic. for starters we have millions more people now and too many shitty, corrupt governments and failed cities. i dont believe for a second detroit could be improved by factories or that those factories wouldn't be fucked by the local populace in regard to electricty, water and material being stolen.


the funny thing is that i've already heard from a couple of suppliers that their increased prices are sticking even if trump delays them because they can't handle the chaos. lol.

 

[MG-34]

Apparently the plan is to massively expand domestic heavy industry within five years by sacrificing consumption for investment and the extensive use of prisoners from corrective labor camps.

That sounds familiar for some reason.

Any economic plan that requires more than 3.5 years to carry out (rougly a single presidential term) is a non starter. Trump's successor in 2028 is going to lose hard for the same reason Biden/Harris lost 2024. No one gives a shit about whatever excuse their portfolio/retirement plan lost half its value. The Nintendo babies crying about their new Gameboy costing too much will be nothing compared to every single consumer good being price hiked and the excuse being "it will totally be better in a few years bro, trust us".

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Any economic plan that requires more than 3.5 years to carry out (rougly a single presidential term) is a non starter. Trump's successor in 2028 is going to lose hard for the same reason Biden/Harris lost 2024. No one gives a shit about whatever excuse their portfolio/retirement plan lost half its value. The Nintendo babies crying about their new Gameboy costing too much will be nothing compared to every single consumer good being price hiked and the excuse being "it will totally be better in a few years bro, trust us".

Maybe Trump does plan to have start a war with China after all. Nothing like a war to institute a planned economy and demand businesses and citizens invest in US stocks and bonds or else.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

I lost like 25 lbs in a month loading trailers at UPS. Fat Americunts could use some sweating.

Yeah, and I used to do warehouse work and stuff like that. It pays well enough if there is low unemployment, but it will destroy your body.

I definately want sweatshop work for them, especially the niggers. Dem farm equipment have been on gibsmuh since Martin Looter Kang, time for them to earn their oxygen and waddymelon again.

But no, what I want is China/Russia/Iran to win. Trump doing a Yuge Depression 2.0 : Make Tariffs Bigly Again is just a happy coincidence.

Fair enough. Hey, if Americans want to get low-value production back to be paid slave labor so they can make shit like low-quality shoes while also having to pay more for it. Then, I also support that.