UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

>IMPLYING · Apr 7, 2025

Vesperus said:
Given that the king just invited goat fuckers into his house to celebrate the festival of noncery I'm kind of glad about that...
Trump is a wildcard from outside the system. I think the UK is stuck in the same hole the US was, unless/until a home-grown equivalent turns up. Maybe someone can convince Jim Ratcliffe to dabble in politics?

I mentioned it in the Lowe thread and how people are now putting the eggs into the Jenrick basket with the Conservatives, but in our system it's not enough that just one person is saying the right things, even if they're the prime minister and party leader (the fate of Truss and May are proof of that). Trump's views are in contradiction to a lot of senior party figures in the Republican party for example, but the way they select leaders is put to the people rather than just those within the party and paying for membership. Were such a thing were to occur here, the senior figures would make sure such a person wouldn't rise up to a role of prominence to begin with, or be viable as a candidate to choose for. We just saw a microcosm of that with Lowe, with how leadership can just fuck you over if they don't like you.

The alternative of making a new party to contest the dominant ones is also an option, but again, the system makes it difficult for such a party to assert their positions regardless of popular support, as votes don't necessarily translate to seats. It is possible though, so it's not a hopeless endeavour.

The other, other alternative is waiting until people in senior positions start adopting vaguely populist ideas (like Jenrick) and hope they spread outwards and trickle down, or keep your mouth shut and tow the party line until you become somebody important enough that they can't simply be sacked for saying such things.

What's annoying about watching America is seeing how much quicker they can do things in comparison. All of the above I mentioned (rising up in pre-established party, starting a new one and running, relying on pre-established figures to adopt attractive positions which spread to others) can take ages. Trump announced his first campaign in June 2015, became Republican presidential candidate in June of 2016, and was elected president by November. (Then again having billions helps bigly.)

Edit: If you want to see how inherently fucked the system is and how it stops outsiders, the process (at least for the Conservatives) is:
1. 1 MP gets the support of 10MPs to have their name put in the running.
2. 4 potential candidates are voted on by all the MPs until only two remain.
3. At the last stage, the 2 pre-selected MPs are actually voted on by the party members. (Badenoch won the majority of MP and member votes, but with Truss and Sunak, the latter won more MP votes and the former more member votes. When she resigned, they didn't even bother to hold another contest.)

Whoopsie Daisy · Apr 8, 2025

'Adolescence' writers are going to remake the nuclear-war drama 'Threads' that was set in South Yorkshire in 1984

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm24nedy37ro

Will Starmer make new nuclear policies off of the back of this? I wonder if it will show the rape gangs getting nuked (located in Rotherham, South Yorkshire) and if it will be celebrated and in turn, the fans berated?

The Crack Spiders Bitch · Apr 8, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
'Adolescence' writers are going to remake the nuclear-war drama 'Threads' that was set in South Yorkshire in 1984

It would be less of an atrocity if South Yorkshire was actually bombed.

Otterly · Apr 8, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
Adolescence' writers are going to remake the nuclear-war drama 'Threads' that was set in South Yorkshire in 1984

Well they won’t need to spend much money on sets, they can just film in page hall or Doncaster for that bombed out wasteland look.

Overly Serious · Apr 8, 2025

anklyscr said:
Yank posting I know but, how does Donny just do things?
I want to send illegals home - done
I want to burn EV mandates - so done
I want to end tranny shit - totes done
I want tariffs - it’s fucking done

Kev the tool maker is still wondering how the fuck he’s the leader of the twat party……. Labour Party.

Because the president of the United States is actually leader of your country and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is less powerful. There's also the issue of whether he actually wants to do something even if he says he does, but putting that aside the true power increasingly lies with the Civil Service and there are laws preventing the Prime Minister from removing whoever she wants to remove. Whilst the Don just says to the head of the FBI or whoever "you're gone."

Liz Truss said that if you want to put this country back on course it's not enough to simply elect a Prime Minister who wants to do that. You have to repeal a number of laws which prevent them from doing so:

(should start at 9:24mins)

EDIT:

Otterly said:
Well they won’t need to spend much money on sets,

(or make-up)

Just a boring name · Apr 8, 2025

Otterly said:
Well they won’t need to spend much money on sets, they can just film in page hall or Doncaster for that bombed out wasteland look.

Please may I nominate Barnsley for the nuking?

If the whole place is destroyed, that's probably about a fivers worth of damage - even including the new Glassworks bullshittery.

A-Logato · Apr 8, 2025

Uh oh Reform sisters! Is it over?!

>IMPLYING · Apr 8, 2025

A-Logato said:
Uh oh Reform sisters! Is it over?!

Lmao.
General gist of the audio:

1. Reform's ultimate goal is proportional representation (which he got from the horse's mouth apparently), which in Lee's mind is trading an effective parliament for a modicum of power (which would also give the Greens and Lib Dems as much say as them) and forever coalitions.

2. Reform apparently didn't expect to win the next election (which we know in hindsight is true) but hope their numbers would be enough to force Labour to give them PR. I don't know if Lee was implying Reform were intentionally sabotaging the Conservatives to get Labour in or not.

3. Lee thinks Labour's ultimate objective is to give 16 year olds the vote, and voting Reform is essentially a vote for Labour, and if Labour win again that'll be next thing on their agenda. 16 year olds voting would then make it impossible for Conservatives to ever win again. Not sure if I'm as pessimistic but I think his concerns are genuine, if only because young people might be grateful for the party that gave them the right to vote.

Lee joined Reform in March of 2024, and that audio comes from October of 2023 I believe, when he was still Conservative. He can easily bullshit some things about changing his views or something like that, which is I am willing to give him considering politicians as a baseline will pretty much go wherever the wind is blowing. A bribe for this defection isn't news however, as The Independent reported on it way back in Nov of 2023. He resigned in January of 2025 as a result of the Conservatives putting up absolutely no effort to make sure the bare minimum (The Rwanda scheme) was actually put into action. I'm willing to believe he got pissed off enough to switch-sides since he seems to be, at the very least, anti-immigrant.

Kier Starmer · Apr 8, 2025

Uh oh, Nigel will not like this at all and it makes him look even more stupid than he already is.

>IMPLYING · Apr 8, 2025

Kier Starmer said:
Uh oh, Nigel will not like this at all and it makes him look even more stupid than he already is.

I predict: "Unlike our opponents, we don't believe in condemning people for the mistakes of the past. We're willing to move on from it and not get bogged down in witch hunts and cancel culture — if that's their prerogative, so be it, but we have much more important things to do." - Farage, or something, if this ever gets brought up.

A-Logato · Apr 8, 2025

>IMPLYING said:
1. Reform's ultimate goal is proportional representation (which he got from the horse's mouth apparently), which in Lee's mind is trading an effective parliament for a modicum of power (which would also give the Greens and Lib Dems as much say as them) and forever coalitions.

2. Reform apparently didn't expect to win the next election (which we know in hindsight is true) but hope their numbers would be enough to force Labour to give them PR. I don't know if Lee was implying Reform were intentionally sabotaging the Conservatives to get Labour in or not.

3. Lee thinks Labour's ultimate objective is to give 16 year olds the vote, and voting Reform is essentially a vote for Labour, and if Labour win again that'll be next thing on their agenda. 16 year olds voting would then make it impossible for Conservatives to ever win again. Not sure if I'm as pessimistic but I think his concerns are genuine, if only because young people might be grateful for the party that gave them the right to vote.

Lee joined Reform in March of 2024, and that audio comes from October of 2023 I believe, when he was still Conservative. He can easily bullshit some things about changing his views or something like that, which is I am willing to give him considering politicians as a baseline will pretty much go wherever the wind is blowing. A bribe for this defection isn't news however, as The Independent reported on it way back in Nov of 2023. He resigned in January of 2025 as a result of the Conservatives putting up absolutely no effort to make sure the bare minimum (The Rwanda scheme) was actually put into action. I'm willing to believe he got pissed off enough to switch-sides since he seems to be, at the very least, anti-immigrant.

It's a pretty damning recording on what some people really think Reform is and for the most part he is correct. I'm curious on the amount he got paid and was being offered for him to come over to Reform and just what is the scale of these pay outs going to Reform MP's to leave what ever party they are in.

Also the subject of 16 year old voting is something I could see them slipping in and then they take a shot at a second Brexit referendum with this new young voting base who for sure are going to vote to rejoin and flip the whole thing.

bluegenius8585 · Apr 8, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
'Adolescence' writers are going to remake the nuclear-war drama 'Threads' that was set in South Yorkshire in 1984

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm24nedy37ro

Will Starmer make new nuclear policies off of the back of this? I wonder if it will show the rape gangs getting nuked (located in Rotherham, South Yorkshire) and if it will be celebrated and in turn, the fans berated?

I don’t get the obsession over that not massively original TV show. Why does 2TK care about some fictional story

Of course only the right kind is allowed , three girls goes against the message

Whoopsie Daisy · Apr 8, 2025

The Crack Spiders Bitch said:
It would be less of an atrocity if South Yorkshire was actually bombed.

Oh no, the russians have nuked the paki rape gangs
anyway...

Narr Then · Apr 8, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
Oh no, the russians have nuked the paki rape gangs
anyway...

Speaking of which...

FedPostalService · Apr 8, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
'Adolescence' writers are going to remake the nuclear-war drama 'Threads' that was set in South Yorkshire in 1984

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm24nedy37ro

Will Starmer make new nuclear policies off of the back of this? I wonder if it will show the rape gangs getting nuked (located in Rotherham, South Yorkshire) and if it will be celebrated and in turn, the fans berated?

I can’t wait for all the references to Thatcher stealing milk.

Why is Netflix churning out Labour propaganda?

Funnily enough, Dark was anti-nuclear propaganda aimed at Germany but was really good. It was also just before Germany got hit with a massive energy crisis and realised shutting all their reactors down was retarded.

I would if this series was meant to coincide with a push for green energy but just as the establishment have to admit how retarded that is?

Inquisitor_BadAss · Apr 8, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
'Adolescence' writers are going to remake the nuclear-war drama 'Threads' that was set in South Yorkshire in 1984

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm24nedy37ro

Will Starmer make new nuclear policies off of the back of this? I wonder if it will show the rape gangs getting nuked (located in Rotherham, South Yorkshire) and if it will be celebrated and in turn, the fans berated?

Threads was a damn masterpiece. The ending is probably the most bleak and depressing shit you will ever watch. I wonder what they will do with the hospital scene of anything at all (it was doctor's and nurses quite literally putting salt into the wounds of survivors and leaving the more severely injured to just die).
There was another more documentary style show made around the same time where they take the critically wounded outback and just shoot them. If I could remember what it was called I'd link it for you all to watch.

Whoopsie Daisy · Apr 8, 2025

Inquisitor_BadAss said:
Threads was a damn masterpiece. The ending is probably the most bleak and depressing shit you will ever watch. I wonder what they will do with the hospital scene of anything at all (it was doctor's and nurses quite literally putting salt into the wounds of survivors and leaving the more severely injured to just die).
There was another more documentary style show made around the same time where they take the critically wounded outback and just shoot them. If I could remember what it was called I'd link it for you all to watch.

Threads an interesting watch for sure. I enjoyed how the nuclear war wasn't first and foremost of the story and that it was background chatter on the radios before it became too late to ignore.
Who will they blame for the Nuclear war? It can't be cold war era, it can't be Iran for Islamaphobic reasons, maybe it will be Drumpff depicted as a white-supremacist right-wing nutter who decides to nukes UK for reasons.

Either way, the fallout (pun intended) from how shit the show will be will be a good laugh.

>IMPLYING · Apr 8, 2025

A-Logato said:
It's a pretty damning recording on what some people really think Reform is and for the most part he is correct. I'm curious on the amount he got paid and was being offered for him to come over to Reform and just what is the scale of these pay outs going to Reform MP's to leave what ever party they are in.

Also the subject of 16 year old voting is something I could see them slipping in and then they take a shot at a second Brexit referendum with this new young voting base who for sure are going to vote to rejoin and flip the whole thing.

I'm curious if he got paid at all considering the circumstances. According to Andrea Jenkyns, it might've been in the ballpark of 80 thousand pounds. (Why'd she reveal on the day she joined Reform that donors tried to bribe her?) According to Simon Hart, it was £400,000. Andrea was offered 80k on election night and Hart's figure came from the end of 2023, so it appeared the longer they waited the less they received. I think the wiggle room Reform gave themselves in saying that they weren't 'bribes' was that it was technically salary being paid in advance... for 5 years.

Lee seemed all-in on the Conservatives during that recording, then they fucked up the one thing they wouldn't shut up about (Rwanda plan) a month after. I think his value as an asset was the potential legitimacy he might've given to Reform as an actual replacement for the Tories, and possibly encouraging a few more MPs to break ranks and join with him without spending a penny. But we saw how that panned out.

Imagine being forced to join the party you were shit talking half a year prior, but without a juicy bribe and no position to bargain from — couldn't be me.

I do have to say though, whilst their ability to bribe might be shit, at least they know who's worth poaching. Lee and Andrea are both anti-immigrant, hard-Brexit, opposed to some of the more draconian covid measures (Lee was anti-Covid passport), and usually one act of 'controversy' that makes them feel human.

In August 2023, Anderson commented that any asylum seekers who disliked being housed in barges such as the Bibby Stockholm "should fuck off back to France".

In July 2022, Jenkyns was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State at the Department for Education.[34] On the way to attending Boris Johnson's resignation speech in Downing Street, Jenkyns was filmed making a "middle finger" gesture at protesters.

I'm curious who else they tried to bribe.

Regarding 16-year olds voting and using it to re-join the EU:

1. I think re-joining the EU is out of Labour's mind at this point. We saw an attempt to foster closer relations with trying to station some troops in Ukraine with France (but that fell through for multiple reasons, one of which being a lack of German co-operation) but considering Starmer is firmly in Trump's camp with tariffs and shit, which is opposed to most of Europe except Italy, I don't think there's any immediate inclination to get back in. The EU's sole benefit really is the Schengen, but if immigrants fall out of favour than a trade deal will do rather than integration. Plus imagine the ball ache of putting together a 2nd referendum. Nah, not worth it. Although if globalisation is truly reversing, the EU might follow suit in scope if we're lucky.

2. I think 16 year olds voting might've been attractive once upon a time, but I think younger people are demonstrating a more schizo shift in political inclinations that make them less reliable than they once were, what with half of the kids seeing the virtues of a dictatorship and all. And apparently the split isn't in favour of the Left as you might think: "Our survey asked young people to put themselves on a left-right scale of 1 to 10. The figures show that 17% leaned left (1–3), 20% leaned right (8–10), and 47% put themselves in the middle (4–7). A further 16% said they didn’t know." I do wonder what the potential effect would be on areas that are majority Muslim but currently held by Labour. Every independent gain in 2024 was snatched from Labour in areas with substantial minority populations, so that might make them more vulnerable to having their seats snatched — another reason why lowering the voting age might be unattractive.

Smyrna · Apr 8, 2025

Unsurprisingly, the government has shelved its feeble plans to investigate Pakistani rape gangs.

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A THREADS remake could be quite good. I do not trust Netflix or the producers to conceive a sensible scenario for how the big red button gets pushed, but nonetheless it could be a timely reminder for the viewing public that there is only one way a war between nuclear powers will end.

One thing I particularly liked about THREADS (and its septic cousin The Day After) is that the focus was not on London (or, in TDA's case, New York\Washington\Los Angeles etc.). I think it helped reinforce the message that if it happens, it won't just be the metropolises that get it, and you won't be able to hide from the aftermath.

Brahma · Apr 8, 2025

FedPostalService said:
weird adherence to the rulings of international bodies we should have been ignoring

Starkey has been banging that drum recently, as well as the newfound obeisance of elected governments to the judiciary, both domestic and international, across the West

It's just part of the further erosion of democracy because more and more the political class realise that actual democracy, rather than the sham that representative democracy has turned in to, would be the end of them.

Whether it's courts, or the ECHR, or an "independent governing body" or a consent laundering NGO report, they've no end of things they can point to that are "forcing" them to defy the will of the people

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Whoopsie Daisy

The Crack Spiders Bitch

Contact the Canadian Wildlife service in Ottawa

Otterly

Primark Primarch

Overly Serious

Just a boring name

Rocky Flintstone rubbed my rivets.

A-Logato

I was doing it before it was uncool

>IMPLYING

Kier Starmer

PM of Island of Strangers

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A-Logato

I was doing it before it was uncool

bluegenius8585

Hiding behind a log

Whoopsie Daisy

Narr Then

I survived the Kiwi Vs Keffals kerfuffle 2022

FedPostalService

Delivering threats in Minecraft

Inquisitor_BadAss

Pardon my flatulence

Whoopsie Daisy

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Smyrna

Brahma