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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
3. Lee thinks Labour's ultimate objective is to give 16 year olds the vote, and voting Reform is essentially a vote for Labour, and if Labour win again that'll be next thing on their agenda. 16 year olds voting would then make it impossible for Conservatives to ever win again. Not sure if I'm as pessimistic but I think his concerns are genuine, if only because young people might be grateful for the party that gave them the right to vote.
This is a false hope on their part and the schizo shift will be real IMO, much like how the tories wanted to cut down on the 50 Asian cousins all vooting through one proxy backfired by cutting out the pensioners who can't fandangle their way into a photo booth, I think giving 16 year olds vooting would have the opposite desired effect; they're lazy fuckers who won't vooote anyway (turnout amongst da yoof in general is abysmal, take any random social media activist who tongues gazan anus and check their name against the electoral register to see this in action) but also... Remember how around this time last century the Liberals pushed HARD for women to get the vote and then never got back into government again? I reckon enfranchising the generation of the chud would have a similar outcome.
 
Labour are once again trying for digital ID. Less than a year since Tony told them to bring it in and here we go again. Once more the claim is it will prevent migration with no explanation how. The vapid twit they had on Radio 4 earlier claimed it will stop health tourism because people will need their digital ID to use the NHS. Without saying that they would do that to non-citizens because that's not on the agenda. She also added, "we had mandatory ID during the war" and then I tuned out because if I listened to any more I might have driven my fist through the radio.
More than 40 Labour MPs are urging ministers to introduce a new form of digital ID to help control the migration system and improve public services.
In an open letter, Labour MPs from three groups said a "gear shift" was needed to reap the benefits of digital identification.
The idea of digital ID for all has long been backed by former Labour Prime Minister Sir Tony Blair and former Conservative leader William Hague.
But the BBC understands the government has no plans to introduce mandatory digital ID.
The letter said, external while the government had made "great strides" on digitising identification, "the time has come for a more comprehensive programme".
"The truth is we are moving to an era of digital ID," Jake Richards, one of the Labour MPs who signed the letter, told the BBC.
"The government knows this - and is bringing forward new developments with digital driving licences and passports, but we want them to move faster, to ensure the project is comprehensive and joined-up and, critically, bring the public with them."
The group argues digital ID could help tackle "illegal off-the-books employment".
The proposal falls short of the compulsory identity cards Sir Tony brought in when he was prime minister.
The last Labour government started issuing the first ID cards to UK citizens and 15,000 were in circulation when the scheme was scrapped by the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition in 2011 and the database destroyed.
Sir Tony has since suggested using digital ID to help control immigration so "we know precisely who has a right to be here".
The government has focused on targeting people-smuggling gangs to bring down illegal migration, which is one of Labour's biggest challenges.
The latest Home Office data show more than 5,000 migrants have crossed the English Channel in small boats so far this year.

Sir Tony Blair has backed the idea of digital ID
In the open letter, the Labour MPs said "this government will only succeed if it is able to get a grip on illegal migration".
A key part of this, the letter said, "must be tackling illegal off-the-books employment, which is a major draw for migrants entering our country unlawfully".
"Digital ID would help counter these practices," the MPs said.
Richards - the MP for Rother Valley - said the system for managing and tracking people who enter the country illegally was "fraught with inefficiencies".
He added: "Digital processing and some form of digital ID for those that arrive would help us control the system much more effectively."
The letter also said digital ID could "transform public services" by making it easier to access the NHS, tailoring education and cracking down on benefits fraud.
But the letter said any digital ID programme "must be developed with care, respecting an individual's privacy".
The letter was signed by MPs from the Labour Growth Group, the Red Wall Group representing seats in the Midlands and north of England, and the socially conservative Blue Labour group. Many of them were elected for the first time last year.
Polling by YouGov, external suggests there is strong support for the introduction of a system of national identity cards in the UK.
Bur critics of such forms of ID have raised concerns about privacy, civil liberties and the collection of data by the state.
An online wallet already allows users to store government-issued documents on their phones, and a digital driving licence is being launched this year.
A government spokesperson said: "We are committed to using technology to improve lives and transform public services.
"Digital identities offer a secure, efficient way for people to prove who they are without physical documents, reducing fraud and saving time.
"Trusted providers following government rules are already conducting hundreds of thousands of digital checks monthly, helping people access employment, housing, and vital services more quickly and easily, while boosting productivity, driving economic efficiency, and supporting long-term growth as part of our plan for change."

I'll dig up some lighter news later, this one irked me.
 
A key part of this, the letter said, "must be tackling illegal off-the-books employment, which is a major draw for migrants entering our country unlawfully".
"Digital ID would help counter these practices," the MPs said.
claims like this always drive me utterly bonkers. They're already breaking the law. Breaking another law to continue working under the table won't phase them even for a moment.

Fucking digital ID scam. They might actually get it through this time, too. The only mitigation is that it'll be so costly and complicated to implement that they'll never actually get it into practice, which means we'll have yet another useless law on the books that will only be rolled out whenever they want to pad a charge sheet.
 
The only mitigation is that it'll be so costly and complicated to implement that they'll never actually get it into practice, which means we'll have yet another useless law on the books that will only be rolled out whenever they want to pad a charge sheet.
Nah, I could see them rolling this one out. Not only is it a WEF one (as demonstrated by their rent boy backing it) but every old person who struggles too much with the technology to adopt it can be turned away from the NHS. It's like implementing mandatory MAID for them!

Which was found to be unlawful AFTER the war in a very famous case.
She was not the brightest. When trying to give an example of a country with digital ID she dithered three times then just went for "many worldwide."
 
Lots of talk about smiting London with missiles, can we add Bradford to list as well please and thank you?
I think it would be fun to arrange all cities and towns by population density, and then see if there's a clear line between "want to nuke" and "ok you can live."
Don't be a dick
Where do you think you are? You come in here with your six foot labia, queefing up the thread, and you expect people to be nice to you? You must be hot in real life to act like that. Sickening.
it will stop health tourism because people will need their digital ID to use the NHS.
How exactly? My wife and I are in the UK for a few months and I've impregnated her, so we signed her up for the NHS and got on the pregnancy track. Open and honest about not only her ethnicity and nationality, but also her visa status (temporary visitor). Everyone's been all congratulations for us, no problems whatsoever with her never once having contributed to the NHS.

They could put as much ID around this as they like, it specifically says on the NHS website that this type of care is free for everyone. If you can get to England, you can use the NHS, no questions asked. Immigration is the only barrier to that (and even that was all automated gates that waved her through no problems.)

Honestly I'd feel bad stealing from you guys if I wasn't aware that the good people in England are all in this thread, and everyone else is a shitskin who deserves their tax to be redirected to a Japanese person's benefit. I'll happily refund you all the couple of pounds share you had in it if we meet up sometime.
 
How exactly?
It wouldn't. Which is why after the section you quoted I added
Without saying that they would do that to non-citizens because that's not on the agenda
They are lying that this will have any impact at all because the digital ID is not about any of the alleged positives and entirely about grinding the boot further down on the neck.

Time for some funnier news (yes it's American but it's on the BBC)
A pair of critically endangered giant tortoises aged about 100 years old have become first-time parents at Philadelphia Zoo.
The zoo said this week it was "overjoyed" at the arrival of four hatchlings from Abrazzo and Mommy, a pair Western Santa Cruz Galapagos tortoises.
The births were a "first" in the zoo's 150-plus-year history, it said, and Mommy - who arrived in 1932 - was the oldest known first-time mother of her species.
Western Santa Cruz Galapagos tortoises are critically endangered in the wild, and there are fewer than 50 kept in US zoos.

One of the four hatchlings at Philadelphia Zoo
The first of Abrazzo and Mommy's eggs hatched on 27 February, and others quickly followed. The zoo's animal care team is monitoring others that could still hatch in the coming weeks.
The four hatchlings weigh between 70 and 80 grams.
They are being kept behind-the-scenes, inside Philadelphia Zoo's Reptile and Amphibian House, and are "eating and growing appropriately", the zoo said.
It is planning a public debut of the quartet on Wednesday 23 April, which is "the 93rd anniversary of Mommy's arrival at the zoo".
The hatchlings are part of the Association of Zoos and Aquariums' breeding programme, aimed at the survival of species and genetic diversity.
"This is a significant milestone in the history of Philadelphia Zoo, and we couldn't be more excited to share this news with our city, region and the world," the zoo's president and CEO Jo-Elle Mogerman said in a statement.
"Mommy arrived at the zoo in 1932, meaning anyone that has visited the zoo for the last 92 years has likely seen her," Ms Mogerman said.
Abrazzo is a newer arrival, having moved to Philadelphia in 2020 after previously living at the Riverbanks Zoo and Garden in South Carolina.
"Philadelphia Zoo's vision is that those hatchlings will be a part of a thriving population of Galapagos tortoises on our healthy planet 100 years from now," she added.
I'll let an American post the pictures.
Back to the UK.
How could she possibly have known to be wary around criminals, it's not like that was her job!
A prison governor who allegedly began a relationship with a drug-dealing gang boss was "green and stupid", a court heard.
Kerri Pegg, 42, had been "naïve and gullible" and taken advantage of by major Liverpool crime figure Anthony Saunderson, Preston Crown Court heard.
She is on trial accused of misconduct in a public office after allegedly helping him get day-release from HMP Kirkham in Lancashire.
She is also accused of accepting a £12,000 Mercedes car from Saunderson, which he paid for in drugs, a jury was told.
She was seen as a "rising star" in the Prison Service, climbing the career ladder from graduate entrant to prison governor in six years.
But Ms Pegg is accused of beginning a relationship with Saunderson, known to criminal associates as "Jesse Pinkman", the meth-dealing character from TV's Breaking Bad.
When police raided her apartment they found size 10 Hugo Boss flip flops and a toothbrush carrying Saunderson's DNA.
Andrew Alty, defending, in his closing speech to the jury, said Ms Pegg was "green and stupid" but had led an "unblemished life", never having been in trouble with police before, and now working for a homeless charity.
He added: "You are also entitled to take into account Saunderson and his character, who I suggest is a manipulative and dishonest person who has fooled many people along the way before he ended up back in prison.
"I suggest Kerri Pegg is one of those.
"Kerri Pegg is naïve, gullible, put prisoners above principles and common sense, has been taken advantage of by a far more sophisticated, odious individual, Anthony Saunderson."

Prosecutors allege that as well as becoming personally involved with a convict and accepting a car from him, Ms Pegg lived beyond her means and got into debt, with three county court judgments (CCJs) against her.
She was said to be duty-bound to declare them, but did not.
Ms Pegg denies all the offences and tearfully told jurors she had been "incredibly stupid", but did not think she had done anything wrong.
Police seized the Mercedes C class saloon outside her home when investigators swooped in November 2019.
Inside her apartment in Orrell, Wigan, along with the flip flops and toothbrush later used to gather DNA evidence, they found designer clothes, shoes, handbags and jewellery.
Saunderson was given a 10-year jail term in November 2014 for drugs conspiracy and money laundering.
In June 2017 he was moved to HMP Kirkham, and later Ms Pegg, a governor there, is alleged to have broken prison rules by signing off on his temporary release for time out of custody, without proper authority.
After his release from jail Saunderson became involved in another conspiracy to supply drugs, and was later identified as the boss of a drug gang going by the name of Jesse Pinkman on the EncroChat encrypted mobile phone network, used by organised crime gangs.

At the same time, in July 2019, the court heard newly-released Saunderson was contracted by some prisons to run a project called Breaking Alcohol and Drug Dependency (BADD).
Ms Pegg, at the time the regional official co-ordinating drug strategy in six prisons in the north west of England, and "passionate" about the BADD project, thought of Saunderson not as an ex-inmate but a "colleague", and she said this explained her contact with him as he was working on the project.
Later, when police cracked the EncroChat system, it revealed Saunderson's drug dealing and his alleged relationship with Ms Pegg.
Barbara-Louise Webster, prosecuting, in her closing speech to the jury, said: "We say they were in a relationship.
"The mix of DNA, both hers and his on the flip flops and the toothbrush, are very telling.
"They must have spent considerable time together and she must have suspected that vehicle was from criminal conduct.
"Kerri Pegg had a promising future until she started to play outside the rules.
"Anthony Saunderson was her downfall."
The trial continues.
That some homeless charity hired her after this really shows that we need to start defunding charities. Speaking of (but not really)
Hundreds of public bodies are to be reviewed in a bid to cut spending and give ministers more decision-making powers.
Cabinet Office Minister Pat McFadden has written to government departments asking them to justify the existence of every taxpayer-funded organisation not directly controlled by ministers.
Some of these organisations, known as quangos, could be closed, merged, or have their responsibilities handed over to departments.
The BBC has been told ministers are considering passing a new law that would make it easier to scrap multiple quangos at once.
A government source said the review had no completion date, and ministers had not set a target for how many quangos, or quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisations, they wanted to abolish.
The source said the review be particularly focused on quangos dealing with policy issues of national importance.
The review comes after Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer announced plans to abolish NHS England, which Labour has described as the world's biggest quango.
The organisation will be brought into the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), in a radical overhaul of the management structure of the NHS.
The move is part of the government's drive to slim down the Civil Service, with a view to saving money and restructuring how the state works.
Last month, Sir Keir told his ministers they should take more responsibility for decisions rather than "outsourcing" them to regulators.

Quangos are organisations such as regulators, cultural institutions and advisory bodies, which are funded by taxpayers but not directly controlled from Whitehall.
They range from huge organisations like NHS England, to smaller ones like the Gambling Commission and the British Film Institute.
Some - such as the Environment Agency, or the broadcasting regulator Ofcom - have powers to make decisions without ministerial input.
The Cabinet Office's review will consider four key principles, including the importance of ministerial oversight of key policy areas and government efficiency.
There will be a presumption that all quangos could be scrapped unless there is a compelling reason to keep them, the Cabinet Office said.
But some quangos that scrutinise the government or protect the rule of law will remain unaffected.
McFadden said the government wants to "ensure decisions of national importance that affect everyone in this country are made by those who have been elected to do so".
He added: "The review will aim to drive out waste and inefficiency across Whitehall, reducing duplication and bureaucracy - saving the taxpayer money and cutting the cost of 'doing government'."

Since Labour won the general election last year, government has set up a number of new quangos, including Great British Energy, which invests in clean power sources.
Previous governments have taken an axe to these organisations, with the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition getting rid of hundreds in a so-called bonfire of quangos from 2010.
But trade unions are wary of further cuts, and fear they could mean jobs losses in the Civil Service.
"If they target up to 50% job cuts - as they are pursuing with the NHS England and DHSC merger – the government seriously risks undermining their own agenda," said Lucille Thirlby, assistant general secretary of the FDA, a union representing senior civil servants.
Fran Heathcote, boss of the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union, which represents civil servants below the senior rank, said ministers "must ensure that there is proper engagement with the unions".
She said: "If these changes are to be a success, our members will obviously need guarantees on their job security and pay and conditions.
"This is a big opportunity to change the civil service for the better and the government must handle it properly."
They won't do anything of real note. And remember that they were willing to did strip benefits from cripples before even looking at these wastes.
 
Please don't mistake my intention, I'm arguing not with you, but your government. Tilting at windmills, if you will.
I suspected so. Just wanted to be very clear that as so often happens the claim that it will solve a problem is a blatant lie. It's the Kiwifarms British News thread, if there was a "no duh" rating my post would be invisible behind them.
 
I'm going to bet the threads remake will feature Iran as the attacker. Everyone will just assume it was Putin because they haven't watched it.

Isn't that just what the UK Government operate under, jailing people for their Social Media posts?
You don't understand. UK.gov does it to protect brown Muslims from disgusting white anti-semitic oppression. Israel does it because they're filthy kikes who want to murder Muslim children and squeeze out their blood to make matzoh balls.
 
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