The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

So after close of trade stonks in Japan are down by nearly 4%
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Lunch time in UK looks like this
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It'll interesting to see what happens to the Dow Jones when it opens.
 
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Bloodthirsty Nosenigger said:
That's still the case with tariffs, though. It'll still be cheaper to produce stuff in China, tariffs are just a different way to put a thumb on the scale.
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Of course, but at least you aren't spending billions keeping the facade that you have a working industry in your country.

The US is just putting their dick on the table and hoping that they are still influential enough and powerful enough to tilt things in their favour. It's Trump essentially double chucking. We'll either get a "YEAH BITCH DTPN" or "I just lost it all, I'm going to fuck a dude!".

Which ever one it ends up being, I hope it is entertaining.
 
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Cynical-Carnivore-88 said:
Nobody’s scared of Iran’s army like it’s the Persian Avengers or some shit. The Iranians at best have operated for decades thorough arming Shia proxies in the region (I.e. Hezbollah and Houthis as examples) and being their administrative managers for their terroristic BS. The US could wipe half their military before lunch if provoked, but the real problem is that if you poke the hairy Persian bear, it’ll set the whole oil market on fire, shut the Strait of Hormuz, and suddenly oil costs $200 to 300$ per barrel while the global economy gets suplexed into a recession. It’s not fear of Iran’s strength, it’s fear of their ability to cause a biblical oil panic on the way out.
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They should just eat cake, I mean buy Teslas. Uncle Sam can get off his oil habit with the help of Musk!
 
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Fae Supremacist said:
It's incoherent nonsense, juche-reaganite-nazbol-techno-accelerationism, there's no common ground or shared agenda other than "burn everything".
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Hilarious you say that, because the collapse of the Russian economy in the 1990s was directly caused by neoliberal shock therapy involving cutting tariffs, subsidies and opening up the Russian market while selling off all industrial production for pennies to speculation.

Sure it worked out for them!, Russia is a bastion of free trade and democratic values™
 
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Fae Supremacist said:
It's incoherent nonsense, juche-reaganite-nazbol-techno-accelerationism, there's no common ground or shared agenda other than "burn everything".
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Trump's tariffs produce an ideal that you can depict in a phonk edit, sensible economics do not: This is the critical factor for those who support these tariffs.
 
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AltisticRight said:
It's hard for me a non-burger to understand how unions are communist.
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The union worker subset was already within the working class of the USA and that was politically-left at peak power. Went even further left as the right became the defacto anti-union position because everything must be galvanized this way in USA.

Unions and their leadership have no real discernible politics except unto themselves in the form of dues and pure general corruption. They have not survived multiple decades of boomer leadership like pretty well everything else. Public sector unions very different animals that is genuine radical left territory.
 
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AN/ALR56 said:
Hilarious you say that, because the collapse of the Russian economy in the 1990s was directly caused by neoliberal shock therapy involving cutting tariffs, subsidies and opening up the Russian market while selling off all industrial production for pennies to speculation.

Sure it worked out for them!, Russia is a bastion of free trade and democratic values™
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Russia's economic collapse was caused by economic reforms being used as means of theft. Where this didn't happen and the reforms were undertaken without being used by oligarchs to steal (such as in the Baltics), the 1990s weren't nearly as bad and now the Baltics are a bastion of free trade. Trying to pin the 1990s on neoliberalism and sensible economics is directly playing into myths propped up by fascists and communists.
 
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AncientPhosphur said:
Tie me to a rocket and fire me at three gorges dam I’m ready.
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The obsession certain pundits have with that dam is amusing. Like aboriginals cargo culting airplanes they can never build.
NashSuvorov said:
Where this didn't happen and the reforms were undertaken without being used by oligarchs to steal (such as in the Baltics), the 1990s weren't nearly as bad and now the Baltics are a bastion of free trade.
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That's an oversimplification, sure the Baltics have free trade and a market economy now, but they bled population heavily and have decidedly been on the downturn for decades, Estonia exists as a corporate registration flag for example. Bulgaria and Ukraine got fucked severely, post Ceausescu Romanian nation building was a USAID project and their market transition was similarly terrible until very recently.
 
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