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One of the few conspiracies I don't believe in is UFOs, it's pushed way too hard by the mainstream.
The mainstream media hasn't covered it that much outside of the hearings. The New York Times reduced their reporting of the subject a few years after starting the new era back in 2017. The Biden administration was practically silent (but busy dealing with the dementia patient in chief), and the Trump administration has been mostly quiet aside from lying about FAA-approved drones. The JFK/RFK/MLK assassinations and Epstein files got priority over UFOs/UAPs.

Medium (Escape Velocity / Volar Records): Geoff Cruikshank’s recent updates on the 1962 Bluegill Triple Prime nuclear test in space that brought down a UAP (archive) (Reddit)

South China Morning Post: Close encounters: inside Japan’s growing fascination with UFOs (archive)
 
The mainstream media hasn't covered it that much outside of the hearings. The New York Times reduced their reporting of the subject a few years after starting the new era back in 2017. The Biden administration was practically silent (but busy dealing with the dementia patient in chief), and the Trump administration has been mostly quiet aside from lying about FAA-approved drones. The JFK/RFK/MLK assassinations and Epstein files got priority over UFOs/UAPs.

Medium (Escape Velocity / Volar Records): Geoff Cruikshank’s recent updates on the 1962 Bluegill Triple Prime nuclear test in space that brought down a UAP (archive) (Reddit)

South China Morning Post: Close encounters: inside Japan’s growing fascination with UFOs (archive)
No offense, but I know you are invested
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sorry for shorter post
but NoBueno started it by bringing up History Channel shows, and i have been waiting like 2 days to post this!

Jake Barber says "we want to be like the Skinwalker Ranch show, which is one of the greatest shows to have ever existed" and i am barely paraphrasing
to clarify, when criticised and told "you are just another Skinwalker Ranch show" Jake and his team take that as a compliment :story:
maybe they need to swap insults out? try calling them Curse of Oak Island next and see what they say
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Jake Barber says "we want to be like the Skinwalker Ranch show, which is one of the greatest shows to have ever existed" and i am barely paraphrasing
As expected, folx are mad:
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1jsxhcm/jake_barber_skinwalker_ranch_is_one_of_the/?limit=500 (archive)
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Hype video+article for tomorrow. It's risky to lean on a third-party like this:

NewsNation: New video of ‘summoned’ UFOs coming soon, Ross Coulthart says (archive)
“They say that every time they use their dog whistle, it’s worked 100% of the time in summoning the phenomenon,” he told “NewsNation Prime” on Sunday.

Coulthart said he understands Skywatcher will release a video “within a day” that purportedly shows a range of UFOs the organization has been able to coax.

“They claim to have been able to recover video of nine different shapes,” Coulthart said, including a “jellyfish-shaped” object with tentacles.



0:29- Jake Barber and the feminine, loving entity
2:35- Has Coulthart seen the Skywatcher evidence?
3:30- Why is David Grusch waiting for his security clearance to be renewed?
5:28- Coulthart’s experiences with Australia’s aboriginal people
10:11- Coulthart on cases about possible mutilations done by NHI
13:39- What it would take for Trump to do more on disclosure
16:57- Is Elon Musk stonewalling disclosure?

In his recent Reality Check interview, Jake Barber tempered expectations for new footage at one point:
JAKE BARBER: Well, you know these things are very hard to image, even with our expensive equipment, it's not the most spectacular image. It's not going to be like what you would see in Hollywood. AI is going to do a much better job of putting together something like this.

In our episode we show you the raw data, not zoomed in, and then we'll show you some zoomed in stuff.
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Things that are the most respectable from a data standpoint aren't always the most spectacular from an entertainment standpoint.

Today Is the Day! Videos of different kinds of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UFOs) crafts will be revealed later today!
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https://x.com/SkywatcherHQ/status/1909295582788677783 (archive) (Reddit) + Basketball bonus
Skywatcher Part II will launch at 7pm EST tonight, featuring an initial taxonomy of nine UAP classes, along with photos & videos from our ongoing data collection efforts.

NOTE: Skywatcher's media is not validated science and has not yet undergone independent scientific review.



Ross Coulthart says that Harald Malmgren (advisor for multiple US Presidents), in an upcoming interview with Jesse Michels, will state that he was briefed into the legacy UFO program by Richard Bissell in 1962 after a test of a "Bluegill" thermonuclear device because a UFO was downed and recovered.

A Fascinating Comment Posted by Richard Dolan's Illustrator on the Latest Need to Know EP (archive)
I believe the drones they were testing in December of 2024 were from PteroDynamics XP4.
PteroDynamics is located in Colorado where the prototypes for this drone were first built and tested and was responsible for the 2019, 2020 Colorado drone flap.
The XP4 is an autonomous drone capable of fixed wing or Quadcopter flight and can morf between the two configurations in the air.
The Navy commissioned PteroDynamics to build approximately 300 of the XP4 in 3 sizes, the largest being capable of carrying a 500 pound payload.

Dr. Garry Nolan on aerospace companies lobbying against UAP disclosure legislation: "Why if there's nothing there.."

Vanity Fair: The New York Times’ In-House Conservative (Ross Douthat) Is Launching a Podcast to Decode MAGA—and Talk UFOs (archive) - I guess he's semi-skeptical based on this article.
 
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SKYWATCHER...... PART 2!!!!
"Mapping the Unknown" or "Enter the Gay" whichever you prefer
more useless fluff where they are all main characters in their own X-Files episode
Skywatcher Part II builds on the narrative of Jake Barber and the Skywatcher team as they seek to scientifically validate the existence of UAPs through both electromechanical signaling ("machine calling") and neuromeditative interaction ("psionic calling"). This episode introduces James Fowler, who leads the technology team at Skywatcher. The episode also defines a taxonomy for UAPs by introducing 9 different classes of UAP, including the Tic Tac, the jellyfish, and the manta ray. The experience also follows the team in the field, including Dr. Garry Nolan, Alex Klokus, Matt Pines, and others as they collect additional data on UAPs
i went to the comments to find a timestamp but uh oh
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from Mick, with clip
The Skywatcher UAP "classes" are the usual LIZ objects, many of which look very much like balloons or other windblown debris. None of them are particularly interesting.
It's a very weak showing, unfortunately, just wishful thinking.
 
I will admit I did first see this on reddit, but I haven't seen a verison of it that hasn't been edited heavily outside of reddit.
This is the supposed new Chinese stealth aircraft J-36
Now that does look quite UFO like!
The nerd in me thinks of Ace Combat type of fictional aircaft

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Picture on the right has artist impression written all over it, but a decent look into the future design of aircraft.
Another example of a new Chinese aircraft:
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I will admit I did first see this on reddit, but I haven't seen a verison of it that hasn't been edited heavily outside of reddit.
This is the supposed new Chinese stealth aircraft J-36
Now that does look quite UFO like!
The nerd in me thinks of Ace Combat type of fictional aircaft
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Picture on the right has artist impression written all over it, but a decent look into the future design of aircraft.
Another example of a new Chinese aircraft:
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Stealth aircraft looked like triangular UFOs for decades now.

There are two camps here:
-Sceptics say that triangular UFOs are mistaken stealth planes where people badly guess its speed and size.
-Believers say that they are too small and don't hower, or that stealth aircraft are built on UFO plans, etc.
 
from Mick, with clip
Mick and Marik have been exchanging tweets in regards to the Skywatcher UFO data
Mariks position is, Mick should stop debunking what little that they have released to the public and instead request the raw data
Micks position is, Skywatcher made it part of their pledge that they would release this exact data he speaks of to the public, why does he have to request anything?
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this Fred guy is just an all around embarrassing specimen, Skywatcher psionic asset btw if you forgot who he was
Fred Bakers twitter is a full on LARP, and its pretty embarrassing to go through, here is an example
referring to "the entity" like hes in that movie Nope or something
No idea. I’m here to protect our people, protect the “entity”, and capture what we can under optics. My assessment is elementary.
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despite this Mick still made the request, about 7 hours ago, for Skywatchers data to run it through Sitrec
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This is the supposed new Chinese stealth aircraft J-36
I recommend bookmarking The War Zone (spin-off site from The Drive) for this kind of news:

China’s ‘J-50’ Tailless Stealth Fighter Seen In New Imagery (archive)
China’s J-36 Tailless Fighter Zips Over Road On Landing Giving Us Our Best Look Yet (archive)
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That is absolutely wild, I'd be scared as shit.

i went to the comments to find a timestamp but uh oh
From what I've seen on r/UFOs, reception is more mixed/positive with less negativity than last time. Some comment sweeping does happen so it can be hard to judge. But it's likely Skywanker will be able to get away with it this time and have their own unpaid defense force.
despite this Mick still made the request, about 7 hours ago, for Skywatchers data to run it through Sitrec
Bit of a check and mate? They look shady if they refuse to provide data. If they do, Mick could tear it to shreds. If they truly believe he is a bad actor/paid opposition they need to have their own counter-analysis ready to go.

NASA Connection! Jake Barber and his friend Adam Yingling. Skywatcher now has a NASA Scientist on its Team. It's very likely that other NASA scientists are aware of Skywatcher's work.
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Separately, there's a new video coming from Jeremy Corbell:
Liberation Times: Military Footage Reveals ‘Tic Tac’ UFOs Witnessed By Warship Crew By Coast Of San Diego (archive) (wayback)
The sighting occurred on the night of 15 February 2023, when an unknown object was seen by one witness aboard the ship emerging from the ocean, before transitioning into flight, meaning it would meet the official U.S. government criteria of a transmedium UAP.

The witness and his fellow crewmembers ran to the radar screen, where they saw four targets.

This was uploaded at "4K", but there was no reason for it to be uploaded at that res. Local 720p:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwgDFLfhNoo (PreserveTube)


 
From what I've seen on r/UFOs, reception is more mixed/positive with less negativity than last time. Some comment sweeping does happen so it can be hard to judge. But it's likely Skywanker will be able to get away with it this time and have their own unpaid defense force.
no, i did notice that as well so we both made the same judgement
i just didnt want to say anything because its not something i felt like saying then have to back up by hunting down 5+ examples but you saw it too
the days of rUFO downvoting Skywatcher is over, for whatever reason, reception has flipped from overwhelmingly negative to neutral
criticism of the show and of the idea of summoning UFOs have been getting heavily moderated and downdooted, been watching it
its gone back to "lets just wait and see what they find", which is where we were at when Greer started CE5, the first wave of this retardation
Bit of a check and mate? They look shady if they refuse to provide data. If they do, Mick could tear it to shreds. If they truly believe he is a bad actor/paid opposition they need to have their own counter-analysis ready to go.
i wonder if they just want to control the first initial coverage of this data so they can skew it in favour of their conclusions
i wonder if they want to be certain they are sending this data to 98% "UFO Friendlies" and 2% "Mick West"s of the world?
that would be an interesting way to ensure the initial coverage of your data 90%+ positive..
 
So, having watched To The Sta..., sorry, Skywatcher episode two, I am convinced that this is pitch for a TV show at best, to more Doty gang shenanigans at worst.

These totally legit tacticool guys who (when they're not chasing Panasonic Toughbooks) have had hours of experience in UAP observation, interception and retrieval bring us the kind of evidence that Third Phase of Moon has been shitting out for years and get foxed by the very phenomenon they have encountered dozens of times? Come on now. Even the claims these UAPs were moving too fast for their cameras to keep up makes it sound like a crock of shit. These are supposed to be people who are not only familiar with the phenomenon but with the equipment required to catch it on camera with enough fidelity to categorise it.

The helicopter being temporarily disabled was the icing on the cake for me. Even without their collective experience, anyone who has followed UFOlogy for long enough knows that manned aircraft and UFOs do not mix. Especially when you are trying to intercept them. You have the Tehran incident in the 70s, Thomas Mantell in the 40s, the Belgian wave etc. This isn't new territory. For them to just go ahead and try to approach these things with a helicopter doesn't make any sense at all for people who are supposed to have prior experience.

Nothing of what I saw was a good omen.
 
NBC News covers the new Tic-Tac video captured off the coast of San Diego on USS Jackson in 2023, interviews Jeremy Corbell who obtained the video. 4 objects, going in and out of water, no exhaust, no heat signature.

criticism of the show and of the idea of summoning UFOs have been getting heavily moderated and downdooted, been watching it
its gone back to "lets just wait and see what they find", which is where we were at when Greer started CE5, the first wave of this retardation
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One detail I forgot. During his recent interview with Coulthart, Barber said that the "machine calling"/"dog whistle" method (some kind of signal such as radio) has a 100% success rate. They are evaluating the dog whistle and the psionics as the two summoning methods. If "it works every time", that could be their off-ramp to stop talking about their beautiful team of gay psionics. But that's not happening and they will be the focus of part III. Here's the psionix team in "action" BTW:
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Thoughts on Skywatchers Post Production (archive)
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So, having watched To The Sta..., sorry, Skywatcher episode two, I am convinced that this is pitch for a TV show at best, to more Doty gang shenanigans at worst.
The most favorable copeterpretation I can come up with is that Skywatcher is like "parallel construction" to force the secret out into the public domain, meaning they already know how to summon and capture UAPs, with some cooperation with parts of the government favorable to Disclosure. They are talking a lot to keep themselves in the spotlight and not killed off, rather than make another Hysteria Channel TV show. They may be slowing themselves down to match a timeline set by members of the Trump administration.

On the other hand, if they are completely full of shit, one excuse they will make is that it's "unethical" to do what it takes to bring down a UAP (such as shoot it with a microwave weapon) to do an actual retrieval. We may continue to see these teasers for as long as they can grift their venture capital backers.

Another idea I had is that this could be a pitch not for a TV show, but for selling their "UAP" (drone) detection platform/services to customers... which could include AARO and the US military (AARO was tasked with coming up with UAP detection kits such as "GREMLIN"). That could explain why Skywatcher was hanging around New Jersey ("working closely with the FAA"), and now some place called "The Range". They've apparently been operating for 5 years already. Millions of dollars have been spent, a lot for a TV show pitch.

These are some classic Jake Barber quotes:
  • "We have an opportunity right now to work with the US government... The US government has shown an interest. They know we're capable. They know what we've pulled out of the sky."
  • "And what they [the US govt] are offering to do now, is give us exclusive use, access to facilities. Because they don't know what's going on."
  • "So they want us to help and because we're one of the few groups of people that have experience, and we provide them a path to redemption"
  • "I believe the United States government in the next 12 months is going to use me and my team as a peaceful non-judgmental path forward to disclosure"
And in this new interview, Barber says that they are in communication with AARO, that AARO has been on "The Range" in the past "with us", and that other government departments are interested. They also say they will self-censor certain test/stealth aircraft, e.g. the F-47 or future craft, that their team is aware of. They want a public-private partnership, they want to work with government.
 
So, having watched To The Sta..., sorry, Skywatcher episode two, I am convinced that this is pitch for a TV show at best, to more Doty gang shenanigans at worst.
thats what i think too
they even compare themselves to those genre of TV shows
they are also friends with a lot of the people IN those shows, which is no coincidence
On the other hand, if they are completely full of shit, one excuse they will make is that it's "unethical" to do what it takes to bring down a UAP (such as shoot it with a microwave weapon) to do an actual retrieval. We may continue to see these teasers for as long as they can grift their venture capital backers.
they have already done but not only with weapons, also applying that rule to their silly summoning that isnt even real
they said they will take no "hostile action" or any kind of commandeering of their vehicles, i remember because i made the post myself
anybody giving Skywatcher an inch deserves to be taken for a mile, which is about half of the reddit now shockingly
Another idea I had is that this could be a pitch not for a TV show, but for selling their "UAP" (drone) detection platform/services to customers... which could include AARO and the US military (AARO was tasked with coming up with UAP detection kits such as "GREMLIN"). That could explain why Skywatcher was hanging around New Jersey ("working closely with the FAA"), and now some place called "The Range". They've apparently been operating for 5 years already. Millions of dollars have been spent, a lot for a TV show pitch.
that is a pretty good guess
i keep forgetting, time and time again, that venture capitalists are involved now
there HAS to be a final product they are grifting towards, but it may be a while before we see what that is
 
Skywalker wants to use vintage cameras:
https://x.com/jakebarber2025/status/1909972331960938736 (archive) (Reddit)

Offer made by someone with an IMDB page:
https://x.com/JayHHunter/status/1910007289492517169 (archive) (Reddit - over 400 comments)
I will consult probono. Have 25 yr exp as a pro Cinematographer/Director. Directed & shot everything under the sun. I can bring this lens to U tomorrow & shoot high grade imagery. 8k-RAW-High FPS. Those 3CCD pan/tilt auto-track cams are no good for what you are doing.

Article and paper about Avi Loeb's camera system:
Universe Today: An All-Sky Infrared Camera Named Dalek Continues the Search for Alien Technosignatures (archive) (Reddit)
Sensors: Commissioning an All-Sky Infrared Camera Array for Detection of Airborne Objects (DOI: 10.3390/s25030783) (archive)

Senate Intelligence Committee Staffer Kirk McConnell on Dick Cheney and the Bush White House UFO Disclosure Research Study confirmed by Sean Kirkpatrick
 
Just to schizo spitball regarding these Skywatcher clowns: maybe the "psionic" bullshit is all a red herring? Supposedly, the ayy lmaos are attracted/heavily interested in nuclear material. Could they be working with glowniggers who are supplying nuclear material as bait?

Then again, using such an obviously looney tunes concept like psionics (without demonstrating any of its validity) is just so insane and shoots to shit all of their credibility. And I doubt VC would be interested in funding them for some slop show that's going to end up on History Channel or Netflix.
 
This thread is one schizo going on about ayliums and a bunch of randoms dropping by every now and then. Such a weird place.
If you want schizo, try reading this:

Geoff Cruikshank on the new announcement of Golden Domes by Trump, which was brought up by Danny Sheehan months ago as the program to track UFOs in our atmosphere even when they’re using their advanced cloaking systems (archive) (Reddit)
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/geof...goldendome-activity-7316318644735561728-Olv1/ (archive)
The dome is “golden” because it exploits the element gold (Au) unique outer valence shell atomic structure to generate Bremsstralung X-ray beams just as Dr. Edward Teller proposed for the Strategic Defense Initiative‘s Exacalibur project. Teller’s ideas were derived from the discoveries made during the Bluegill Triple Prime high altitude nuclear test on 26 October 1962, which also used a gold tamper in its spherical secondary to produce Bremsstralung X-rays.
So if you listen to Geoff’s interview by Ross, a major thing he states is that JFK was upset that gold was being used from the Federal Reserve for these nuclear tests.
They say a UFO was knocked out of the sky by the Bluegill Triple Prime nuclear test:
Blue Gill Triple Prime shootdown Part 2: Was the crash retrieval operation successful? (archive)
 
Matt Laslo has some news from the UAP Task Force, this was only posted 30 mins ago
this is an update regarding Grusch and his role as a staffer
it doesnt really tell us much, especially from the last part, but here it is
Eric Burlison: “Today was a good day with the UAPs topics. We had David Grusch in town. We had meetings in the Oversight [Committee] with [Secrets Task Force Chair Anna Paulina] Luna.”
Matt Laslo: “She told me. Yeah?”
EB: “We had a lot of lot of ideas — good strategy that we're kind of formulating. Grusch is — I'm telling you, he is like a wellspring of insight into this, everything in this category, so..."
ML: "Oh, interesting. So it was a little bit illuminating?"
EB: “I think that everybody in the room recognizes that this was a good move by my team and me to bring him on."
ML: "Yeah? Well, no, it — umm, even talking with [Rep. Tim] Burchett earlier, he was like, ‘I don't know — what does he get paid?’ And I was like, ‘you know, he's part-time,’ but, you know, just because this is new…”
EB: “No. It’s coming out of my budget! It’s coming out of my budget!”
ML: "…but that's where, like, this is just different. So everyone's kind of talking about it.”
EB: “Yeah.”
ML: "I brought it up too [HPSCI Ranking Member Jim] Himes last week and he was like, ‘Really?’”
EB: “Yeah. I saw that. I saw that, yeah.”

i dont know where this part belongs, its just how ML edits
Key Burlison:
“This is an exciting moment. Look, we were at a place where we were kind of operating in the dark. We didn't even know where to go, right? And now we've got somebody that's turned on a flashlight — or that is bringing his flashlight.”
“The Oversight [Committee] staff said it could take, like, two months, so we're gonna try to expedite that and make some phone calls and put pressure. He may not be able to directly tell us, but he can tell us where to go poke.”
 
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