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Should be a wild four years.

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Basically the banks just started handing out loans to every nog and spic who walked in the door knowing that they couldn't afford it because the banks wanted the property. Most of these people defaulted by the 2nd payment and the banks took their houses. This is how, when you look up at how much property banks own, it's staggering. It was all a plan to transfer assets to banks.
dude i love your posts but this is forest for the trees take. The loans were handed out to everyone because everybody was flipping loans and it wasnt just "dur dur we love niggers"

here a dude that did 55 million dollars in fraud explaining his life story about how he did it.

 
I would like America much more if their government didn't consistently simp and suck off billionaires, CEOs, and capital owners.

Even right now, Republicans are working on a tax bill to give huge tax breaks for the wealthy while doing little to nothing for the regular person. I can't really be mad at a random Chinese person when these greedy rich faggots have a greater effect on my life.
 
Can't wait for a blue wave that lasts decades because instead of just lowering the barriers to entry in the US economy, Trump went on a full retard war with the world economy.
"Don't ever do anything because someone might be upset about it". It's literally how we have lived the past three fucking decades, if not more and look where that has gotten us.

"Lowering the barriers" do you realize who you are competing against? Literal ant people who are part of a government who will grind them to dust if that means getting the product done. It will be impossible to convince anyone of doing anything as long as the you are able to fill factories full of pajeets and chinks working to the death for a pittance.

I can't imagine one or two more decades of this decline, you'll be sharing a pod with your colleagues Han, Xi, Sukhdeep and Jalid.
 
Can't wait for a blue wave that lasts decades because instead of just lowering the barriers to entry in the US economy, Trump went on a full retard war with the world economy.
You're going to be waiting a long time.

How long do we have before some random judge in Berkeley orders Trump to rescind the tarrifs?
The judge should just order the stock market to go back up. It'll do about as much good.
 
"Don't ever do anything because someone might be upset about it". It's literally how we have lived the past three fucking decades, if not more and look where that has gotten us.

"Lowering the barriers" do you realize who you are competing against? Literal ant people who are part of a government who will grind them to dust if that means getting the product done. It will be impossible to convince anyone of doing anything as long as the you are able to fill factories full of pajeets and chinks working to the death for a pittance.

I can't imagine one or two more decades of this decline, you'll be sharing a pod with your colleagues Han, Xi, Sukhdeep and Jalid.
No you don’t understand trump should just let china continue to ass rape America or else they might get upset.
 
Xi is truly retarded. I don’t understand the rationality of doubling down against the very country you export model relies on aside from his thinking process operating on nationalist sentiment instead of logic.
Xi has written explicitly in his political treatises that the way to beat the US is simply time. He knows that presidents change every four years and his plan is to wait out Trump. After Trump leaves office, or maybe even after US midterms (if Trump's plans go awry), China can re-negotiate with better leverage. The gamble from Xi is that Trump's economic plans will fail and the gamble from Trump is that his economic plans will succeed.

The reason why people hate and are scared of Trump in DC is because they know that, at the highest levels of government, the president has the power to make gambles like this. A lot of shit is a judgment call. The deep state doesn't like gambling for a variety of reasons both legitimate and bullshit. They like stability. As much as I like Trump, his plans do have the possibility of failing spectacularly even if everyone is on board with said plans and they all do the right thing.
 
It's probably bes t that Crichton died when he did because he would have been ultra mega cancelled in current year, He was already pissing people off for calling out climate change back in the mid 2000s
He was too based for this homo world. 😭
Xi has written explicitly in his political treatises that the way to beat the US is simply time. He knows that presidents change every four years and his plan is to wait out Trump. After Trump leaves office, or maybe even after US midterms (if Trump's plans go awry), China can re-negotiate with better leverage. The gamble from Xi is that Trump's economic plans will fail and the gamble from Trump is that his economic plans will succeed.

The reason why people hate and are scared of Trump in DC is because they know that, at the highest levels of government, the president has the power to make gambles like this. A lot of shit is a judgment call. The deep state doesn't like gambling for a variety of reasons both legitimate and bullshit. They like stability. As much as I like Trump, his plans do have the possibility of failing spectacularly even if everyone is on board with said plans and they all do the right thing.
This is why I voted for Trump. The status quo was decline. I’d rather roll the dice and live with the consequences. Even if there is a collapse I’d rather speed it up and start the recovery now.
 
Please provide evidence of this and archive it - not that I doubt you, but I want to see it and laugh at it.
I initially heard it mentioned on msnbc which I put on in the background because the seethe is calming. Ruters is reporting it too.

I will say #UShastradewarandaneggshortage has to be the most pathetic astroturfing attempt I've seen. Defunding USAIDS really hurt more than we realized.


HONG KONG, April 9 (Reuters) - China began censoring some tariff-related content on social media on Wednesday after U.S. "reciprocal" tariffs on dozens of countries took effect, including massive 104% duties on Chinese goods, while posts criticising the U.S. were top hits.
Hashtags and searches for "tariff" or "104" were mostly blocked on social media platform Weibo, with pages showing an error message.
Other hashtags, particularly those suggesting that the U.S. has an egg shortage, were amongst the most viewed on Weibo. State broadcaster CCTV started a hashtag "#UShastradewarandaneggshortage."
The U.S. is "waving the tariff stick in a high profile manner, imposing tariffs on EU steel and aluminium products... but also writing letters to European countries in a low voice, urgently asking for eggs," CCTV said in a post on Weibo.
The censorship also extended to WeChat, where a wide range of posts from Chinese companies that highlighted the negative impact of Trump's tariffs were taken down by the platform, according to a Reuters review.
The censored posts were all marked by the same label stating the "content was suspected of violating relevant laws, regulations, and policies".
Beijing announced counter-tariffs on the U.S. last week and has vowed to fight what it views as blackmail.
Internet censors have also allowed mocking U.S. comments to proliferate on Chinese social media, depicting the United States as a globally irresponsible trading partner, as China prepares the stage for a wider trade fight with the world's biggest economy.
China controls the internet through a system known as the "Great Firewall" and social media posts are routinely censored when deemed detrimental to national interests. Foreign social media networks such as Instagram and X are blocked, a system that has created a captive market for domestic alternatives.
Beijing lawyer Pang Jiulin, who has more than 10.5 million followers on his Weibo account, said China's share of exports to the U.S. would quickly be replaced by countries such as Vietnam and India, and Chinese companies would lose the opportunity to continue exporting to the U.S.
In the face of U.S. economic aggression, China has no way out but to "fight to the end" he said.
"If China also increases tariffs to 104%, the prices of American goods including Apple and Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab[/COLOR][/FONT] will soar, and Chinese will pay a greater price for their favourite American goods."
Hitting back with its own tariffs and export controls may not be very effective, given China ships to the U.S. about three times as many goods than the around $160 billion it imports. But it may be the only option if Beijing believes it has a higher pain threshold than Washington has.
Chinese stocks tumbled on Monday with the Shanghai Composite Index (.SSEC), opens new tab down 7% in its worst day in five years, but they closed higher on Wednesday, buoyed by state pledges to support local markets.
Prominent Chinese commentator Hu Xijin said on Wednesday that Trump's team was "really delusional".
"They are at war not only with the whole world, but also with the most basic rules of human society, so their chances of victory are zero," Hu said.
"Their reciprocal tariffs will be nailed to the pillar of shame in history for future generations to laugh at."[/SIZE][/COLOR]
 
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I'm aware of a couple companies doing this first-hand too. One I know of has an existing production line with the warehouse poised to have the wall knocked out and expanded for more production in the US already.
Transforming a warehouse into a production facility isn't that difficult when it comes to heavy machinary. The biggest problem from what I witnessed is the internal logistics, limited area and long term planning (mainly future expansion and sunk cost fallicies). The biggest concern, from what I witnessed, is the uncertainty of moving a chunk of your production to the US while having the same productivity at home. In the EU it is hard to fire employees when business plans chance and due to the nature of the work being specialized there are barely any 0-hour contracts nor external employees you can skim from to reduce headcount. Furthermore, there is insane demand for hands-on (metal) workers like welders in the EU (one wood processing company in the Netherlands has a 20% Eastern European workforce on the production floor and slowly increasing because barely anybody young is willing to become a woodworker, causing the experience of senior employees being lost to the younger generation). This causes a dilemma where it is prefered to retain welders even it is tanks the productivity. But some production lines get bottlenecked at the welding process so it could alleviate it in theory.
tl;dr The entire tariff situation will become difficult for EU manufacturers that have US ties due to the fucked up EU labor pool, EU labor laws and uncertainty.
 
The biggest mystery for me was the videos out of China of people falling over dead in the streets. I suspect they were fake but why? The other possibility is that it actually was really deadly but that ends up for selection and mutation towards a less deadly strain very quickly. Perhaps the chings took a bullet for us by dying from the deadly mutations too quickly to spread the particularly deadly strains. If this was the case a major concern would be that China likely has samples of that variant and may be replicating large stockpiles of it.
There’s some people who estimate their losses from covid to be millions. I suspect it was a lot more dangerous but evolved to be less deadly with time but it still has long term health ramifications. Specifically that it results in blood clots. I know young people who never got the shot that did get covid die from strokes. A lot of the casualties were likely due to overreactions and putting people on ventilators too.
 
Xi has written explicitly in his political treatises that the way to beat the US is simply time. He knows that presidents change every four years and his plan is to wait out Trump. After Trump leaves office, or maybe even after US midterms (if Trump's plans go awry), China can re-negotiate with better leverage. The gamble from Xi is that Trump's economic plans will fail and the gamble from Trump is that his economic plans will succeed.
This is why Trump's responses need to be firm, extreme, and immediate. He needs results fast and deals secured, or else all this could fall flat on its face and ruin any future opportunity for change.
 
This is why Trump's responsens eeds to be firm, extreme, and immediate. He needs results fast and secured or else all this could fall flat on its face and ruin any future opportunity for change.
I am guessing it will fail.

It takes several years to build a factory, not even including sourcing new materials, rerouting supply chains, and training and employing people.

There are tariffs on the raw materials, so the sourcing of raw materials will need to be done domestically. There is no infrastructure to source these materials so that will need to be done before any factory to actually produce a good is built.

Trump is a fucking idiot.
 
I can't imagine one or two more decades of this decline, you'll be sharing a pod with your colleagues Han, Xi, Sukhdeep and Jalid.
See:
This is why I voted for Trump. The status quo was decline. I’d rather roll the dice and live with the consequences. Even if there is a collapse I’d rather speed it up and start the recovery now.
This, a thousand times this. Trump's plans might fail, but the alternative is managed decline and we're the same kind of fucked if he fails. It just happens quicker if Trump's plans don't work out. However, if Trump's plans succeed, we're on much better footing that no one prior thought possible. Might as well roll the dice.
I initially heard it mentioned on msnbc which I put on in the background because the seethe is calming. Ruters is reporting it too.
Thank you very much, sir. I love how petty the contemporary Chinese ethos is. I got a great laugh outta this.
This is why Trump's responses need to be firm, extreme, and immediate. He needs results fast and deals secured or else all this could fall flat on its face and ruin any future opportunity for change.
Yes, this is why Trump is moving so fast this time around. He knows the longer he waits, the most likely it is that people can and will undermine his administration.
 
Also all the idiots whining about a “lack of capacity” should be laughed at. When they initially outsourced, none of the countries they outsourced to had any capacity. They had to buy machines for the other countries and train their workers. If it wasn’t an issue to move production to an unskilled country, then it shouldn’t be any issue to move it back to the US.
systems are only as strong as they are required to be. if you stop exercising, your muscles will lose mass. if you stop learning, your brain will wither. if you allow cheap garbage that poisons you to be the cheaper option, people will purchase it

there is no "easing" back into manufacturing. as long as what is essentially slave labor is available, it will win over funding the quality of life that makes America great. the only way to bring back domestic manufacturing is to require it to happen. as soon as it's required, the system will grow to meet demand

that is what the tariffs are for
 
I would like America much more if their government didn't consistently simp and suck off billionaires, CEOs, and capital owners.

Even right now, Republicans are working on a tax bill to give huge tax breaks for the wealthy while doing little to nothing for the regular person. I can't really be mad at a random Chinese person when these greedy rich faggots have a greater effect on my life.
Impressively ignorant, do you have a retard newsletter?
Xi has written explicitly in his political treatises that the way to beat the US is simply time. He knows that presidents change every four years and his plan is to wait out Trump. After Trump leaves office, or maybe even after US midterms (if Trump's plans go awry), China can re-negotiate with better leverage. The gamble from Xi is that Trump's economic plans will fail and the gamble from Trump is that his economic plans will succeed.
Retard The Pooh has no clue this involves a political argument that's been ongoing for 40 years, and we've nationally agreed on the validity of borders, and protectionism.

It's going to be really funny when his lackies in the Central Committee, realize Xi personally caused the US voter base to agree the 90's Democrats were right on trade.
 
I just want to interject here with a different observation. My mother, as I mentioned earlier is a long time mortgage broker and does a ton of reverse mortgages and I hear her on the phone every day with people (my mother lives with me and my fiancee. She's 82 and still works full time though)! I've heard the calls for years and years. It's been my honest observation that the people calling for reverse mortgages aren't the "I'm a boomer and fuck my kids I want my money now to spend on me" people. The calls she gets all day long is shit you can't believe and it's people who mostly don't want to leave their house to their kids because their kids are horrible
Someone sure didn't raise those children right, for them to be so lacking in basic human empathy for... the people who birthed and raised them.

Somewhere along the line, those children were never taught the moral value of charity, selflessness, and family bonds. Weird, because biology hardwired in a system where children were paired with a specific set of adults for a sufficiently long period that those adults could oversee their moral growth, and have time to teach them through instruction and by example the virtues needed for happiness and a thriving society. And in exchange for that investment in their childhood, those children would give back to their parents in their old age.

But boomers knew better than biology, tradition and religion. They handed their children over to temporary caregivers whose investment in their child ended after a couple of months, and who had too many children in their care to pay attention to each child's moral development in the first place. They kept their children out of church because religion was a bore and a burden and so even the backstop of moral instruction from society was eliminated. And then the parents mocked the religious as deluded and outdated, so the chance of their children stumbling on that instruction independently was deftly prevented. And as far as the example that the parents could have imparted naturally, those same parents recklessly destroyed their families through divorce with no care for the effect that it would have on their children - only now to bemoan that their children are utterly lacking in familial bonds.

Sure, not every person with uncaring children has themselves to blame, but more than enough of them do. And if those same parents were very good, responsible, kind and charitable people to their employers, friends, and strangers, well, they should turn to those other people who received their attention now that they need their charity reciprocated. And if the parents have now repented and wish to have those close family ties and the responsibility that goes with it, well, it's too late. They missed their window of opportunity, and current repentance doesn't spontaneously create a history of investment in their children. It doesn't give the children the life experiences they missed out on.
 
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