The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

Oh yeah let me go do that with the million I have hidden in my mattress.

Where the fuck do you live to be paying that much? Assuming you have average credit and no down payment, you might qualify for a 0% down payment FHA loan. For no money, you can get a 300k house for like 2600 a month with taxes and insurance rolled in. You build equity because it is legally your property and you own the title. Your landlord will never get a cent out of you. And then in five years you sell it for 20% more than what you paid (ideally). Let me know if I got anything wrong, because these loan programs are always changing.

 

[MrGeneralMR]

I've been following this shit for more than a decade and it's marvelous how history manages to turn every political movement into a strawman of its former self.
I've seen moderate leftists turn into frothing leftoid lunatics who are openly in favor of chauvinism as long as it's for the groups deemed worthy by them.
Now I see rightoids (a lot of whom were also moderate leftists) completely disintegrate their brains and abandon any form of reason even as their retard-in-chief actively fucks their futures and the futures of their children harder than any positive discrimination bullshit law ever could. The most shocking part is the sheer hubris of the armies of cretins who think that "at least it makes boomers/leftists/corporations/globalists seethe" will net them anything but the absolute disdain anywhere outside of their bubbles.
I'd say, the only thing left for them before they can reach the absolute curb stomp-worthy niggerbrain rock bottom is to support Trump wiping his ass with the Constitution by bullshitting himself into the third term.

 

[Male Idiot]

If he just tariffed his opponents, I would be more rainbows.

But Taiwan, Japan, Worst Korea and even Israel? Oy vey!

This feels like he is trying to do a speedrun and a 100% achivement run in the same time. What was it, perfect is the enemy of good?

He could have tariffed Canada, China, Eucuck Union and Mexico, and added a clause that tariffs apply to goods manufactured there, and it would have sounded way more measured and well, sane.

Flat tariffs on everything and everyone just feels like they did a sloppy hackjob.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Most of the voting public actually. They tend to dislike products increasing in price, no matter the reason.
And I seriously doubt Trump is going to use the public revenue from tariffs to fund socialized housing or investment in infrastructure instead of cutting taxes for his oligarch buddies.

I don't think you understand this. Gen Z and Millennials have fucking NOTHING. Majority of Millenials are 40 with under 20k in their 401ks and no to few stock options. The ladder has been completely pulled up from underneath them. The Boomers made their wealth and then made it impossible to repeat the steps they took to get wealthy. Trump rolling back regulations like he did last time is perfectly adequate to allow younger generations to build wealth.

The problem we have is that once Boomers go, Millennials are fucked and Gen Z is fucked. Millenials are counting on INHERITANCE TO RETIRE. Do you have any idea how insanely broken our system is if people have to rely on inheritance to make their fortune? They'll be left million dollar properties that they'll be forced to sell for 600k or worse because nobody can afford them nor afford to live in them. You're looking at an incoming market apocalypse that would wipe out the middle class entirely because we've spent decades forcing thousands in debt on youth to hold them back. We've regulated the fuck out of industries to the point starting new ones is so insanely expensive, Millenials can't compete. We've made Masters and Bachelor Degrees minimal requirements before doing...well anything in life. We're reaching the point where 100k+ jobs are locked behind Medical Schools, PhDs, and things Boomers never had to do. I'm sorry but you cannot have a society where you force young people into nearly a decade of wasted time in schools, saddled with hundreds of thousands in debt, and then ever inflating costs and expect to not have a financial apocalypse once they no longer have the means to keep the fake n gay economy afloat.

Sure, financial responsibility isn't the governments responsibility. Fine. However, you're talking about literally everyone in the country. Not just a handful of people.

 

[Jace on ice]

I swear some of you niggers would unironically fall for the following propaganda.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

If the reindustrialization stuff was "just PR" then Trump wouldn't be going on camera, repeatedly, telling these nations

Statements made publicly are meant for public consumption. Literally PR at its most basic.

If that's true (it might be, I'm seeing numbers between 18% and 14%, the number has definitely shrank since 2019) then that's all the more convincing. China is looking to divorce itself from the United States during a promised "economic rival". Kick the ladder out from under them. The world doesn't benefit from their success.

Do you think the tariffs hit all of Chinas exports?

 

[Angelos32]

I’ve said this in other threads but my conspiracy nut brain is telling me that there was some backroom deal with manufacturers where they come back but with the condition that H1B visas are uncapped so they can still use slave labor. Elon might’ve shut up about it but the H1B issue was never actually addressed to my knowledge by the current administration, which kinda makes me worried.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

It's fine to try something different, but if "the plan" exists, it will take several administration to effectively reshore manufacturing jobs and build back a healthy working class. This gamble is built upon the idea that everyone will suck it up for decades to come and any incoming presidencies won't just light the whole thing on fire because voters like cheap shit at the end of the day.

People are struggling out there, but the problem is that they assumed they're already at the bottom of the barrel, when we're just going to find out it can sink, much, much, lower.

We literally had the world shut down at gunpoint causing unfathomable damage, we've already lived through worse and the people want the system that allowed that to die.

 

[Berrakh]

We’ll see. Hopefully the utter ineptitude of the MAGA crowd in shilling this is just on them. But anyone betting on economic collapse so their own ideology can rise from the ashes is obviously no real friend of MAGA, even if they take your side in this particular debate. Because Trump’s presidency would collapse with it. And that means no two terms of Vance right after. Instead we’d get Newsom, or even Presudent Kamala if she ran again.

Bromides about tearing down the system are boring and easy to fake by the way. Trying to present them as sincere, or as a novel and cutting take when a dozen people have already said it, is very low IQ.

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

i was not talking about America but the world as a whole, a good chunk of the world population lives in 3rd world countries that sell comodities, they benefit from Chinese cheap motorbikes/cars and India cheap medicine instead of completely unaffordable American and European products ( for them)

Yurop is already full of chink car brands like byd and lynk, chinks are done making just cheap shit for african countries, they are moving up

So if you fire everyone the jeets will leave.

Nah india is still more of a shithole than a broke ass america can be

 

[Xander from the Future]

Where the fuck do you live to be paying that much? Assuming you have average credit and no down payment, you might qualify for a 0% down payment FHA loan. For no money, you can get a 300k house for like 2600 a month with taxes and insurance rolled in. You build equity because it is legally your property and you own the title. Your landlord will never get a cent out of you. And then in five years you sell it for 20% more than what you paid (ideally). Let me know if I got anything wrong, because these loan programs are always changing.

Try that move in the Australian Market.
Lmao.
I hate to be a cynic here but you're assuming we're even making that much and then that the literal bare bones minimum is within 300k.
I'm pretty sure it's legit double up here. For a house that would be paid off in like 30 fucking years.
Boomers never had to deal with this bullshit.

 

[Enig]

Not to mention a significant portion of Americans couldn't afford the cost of electronics and tech goods if they were American made with American wage products either. A LOT of Wal-Mart tier lives are about to get significantly less technologically advanced.

That $250 flat screen smart TV from Costco is a thing of the past.

I tried arguing that with a room temp IQ rando the other day and they couldn’t comprehend how the $80 Serta and $400 Philco in 1954 would be over $930 and $4600 today respectively, all they knew to reply with was default roleplay shit about how the 1950s were better because [wage disparity graph] and not noticing the generally high amount of common stories about people saving up to buy these things.

Cheap faulty shit is the historical anomaly, not the norm. Quality always comes with a price and we’ve (more like boomer corpo but hey) spent decades actively trying to avoid it.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Where the fuck do you live to be paying that much? Assuming you have average credit and no down payment, you might qualify for a 0% down payment FHA loan. For no money, you can get a 300k house for like 2600 a month with taxes and insurance rolled in. You build equity because it is legally your property and you own the title. Your landlord will never get a cent out of you. And then in five years you sell it for 20% more than what you paid (ideally). Let me know if I got anything wrong, because these loan programs are always changing.

Nigger I can't afford 1300 a month on rent let alone 2600 a month on debt.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

Would winning the trade war or losing the trade war open America up to be openly racist again and deal with the blacks? Cause I'm hoping for whatever result does that.

 

[WelperHelper99]

We literally had the world shut down at gunpoint causing unfathomable damage, we've already lived through worse and the people want the system that allowed that to die.

Exactly. I already had some of the best years of my life taken from me as a Zoomer. You literally cannot do anything worse to me than what happened with Covid. Let the storm come. I see light shining through the clouds.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

Yurop is already full of chink car brands like byd and lynk, chinks are done making just cheap shit for african countries, they are moving up

During covid one of the big three Detroit carmakers imported a bunch of Chinese cars (via Canada lmao). They did complete tearsdowns of them along with putting them through the full test-track shakedown.

They concluded that the bigger Chinese brands were at about the level of the Koreans circa 2010 and estimated that they'd be on par by 2025-2030. This report made the execs very anxious.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I’ve said this in other threads but my conspiracy nut brain is telling me that there was some backroom deal with manufacturers where they come back but with the condition that H1B visas are uncapped so they can still use slave labor. Elon might’ve shut up about it but the H1B issue was never actually addressed to my knowledge by the current administration, which kinda makes me worried.

That's because it's a relatively simple fix. I just pass a law forcing H1B workers to get paid market rates. You require that, and the H1B Market dies literally over night.

 

[Null]

Nah india is still more of a shithole than a broke ass america can be

H1-B visa holders cannot stay without a job.

 

[urr13 account]

Nigger I can't afford 1300 a month on rent let alone 2600 a month on debt.

You should do a crypto-scam rug pull, that almost always works.

Let the storm come. I see light shining through the clouds.

Whenever I want to like one of your posts you always say something extremely gay at the end and completely ruin it. No sticker for you.

I'm sorry but you cannot have a society where you force young people into nearly a decade of wasted time in schools, saddled with hundreds of thousands in debt, and then ever inflating costs and expect to not have a financial apocalypse once they no longer have the means to keep the fake n gay economy afloat.

Now this is a high-quality sticker-earning post. I could see William Wallace shouting this on horseback.

 

[Male Idiot]

I swear some of you niggers would unironically fall for the following propaganda.
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30 hours work week. Chinese is 72 hours. Will zoomers love the 9-9-6?